Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread MarkH
I too suggest taking a second look at CCW.  I'll never be an Emacs guy and 
current CCW should be an almost seamless setup with Lein.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 8:53:47 AM UTC-6, lpetit wrote:

 Hello, 

 2013/2/15 BJG145 benmag...@gmail.com javascript:: 
  Jules sums up pretty exactly where I was at...tried CCW, nope, tried 
 light 

 Sorry to be a little bit off topic (or am I ?), but as one of the main 
 developers of CCW, I'd like to learn from this nope. 

 Indeed, one of the main goals of CCW is to be beginner friendly so ... 
 what was (were) the problem(s) ? 

  Table, nope, looked at Leiningen, thought: Edit PATH? What, I haven't 
 done 
  that since I was on Windows 3.1, and what does this thing do anyway...I 
  appreciate the time people have put into all the advice given above 
 because 
  I can see the subject has probably been done to death already. I'm sure 
 it's 
  not really that hard, it's just that I've been spoiled by simple 
 friendly 
  IDEs like Code::Blocks, Visual Studio, Gideros Studio, and I resented 
  mucking about with Linux-on-Windows and command prompts. But, it's cool, 
 I'm 
  sure it'll be worth it...;-) 
  
  I do think the Leiningen homepage could do with a revamp...I reckon it's 
  likely one of the main entry points for beginners and it needs to be 
  simplified for cosseted Windows users like me. 
  
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Re: Recommendation for Clojure Enterprise Development toolkit

2011-07-09 Thread MarkH
As a tech lead or architect you should be fired for even suggesting to
use Clojure as an enterprise greenfield.   Industry and academia is
moving towards advanced type systems.  Nobody in industry seriously
considers Clojure for enterprise systems.

On Jul 8, 12:43 pm, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
 *This isn't meant to start a flame-war!*

 I am pretty convinced that I want to use Clojure as my primary tool
 (in place of Java/Groovy Spring and Hibernate) in writing Enterprise
 applications on the JVM.  By Enterprise I mean that my solution has to
 be very stable, maintainable by others, subject to a number of stake-
 holders and so on.

 Part of the attraction of Java is the set of well-established tools
 for certain things:

  - maven/gradle/ant for building
  - Spring for glue and a gazillion other things (disclaimer: I used to
 work for them as a Consultant)
  - Hibernate for ORM
  - JUnit/TestNG
  - and so on

 I am convinced that Clojure offers a different playing field in terms
 of building blocks; due to its power it seems that there isn't the
 need for such heavyweight players, rather rolling your own, or using
 light-weigh libraries seems to possible.

 That is excellent news, but I need to start somewhere.

 So, what do other enterprise developers use?  There are a gazillion
 libraries out there but where do you start?  For example (religious
 war starts now):

  - cake seems to be a superset of lein but lein seems to be the
 preferred choice - which should a newbie go with
  - what behaviour driven testing (i.e. BDD) library would you use (for
 integration tests)
  - which unit testing framework do you use (lazy-test's watch method
 is very appealing)
  - which CI servers have you integrated Clojure with, and how?
  - which other high quality libraries can you recommend (akin to
 JodaTime)

 Basically, what supporting infrastructure do you guys use to build
 large Clojure apps.

 I hope the gist of this request comes through - I, of course, should
 try them all, but if recommendations are always welcome.

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Re: ANN: ClojureQL 1.0.0 finally released as public beta

2010-11-18 Thread MarkH


On Nov 18, 1:10 pm, LauJensen lau.jen...@bestinclass.dk wrote:
 Hi gents,

 For those of you who have followed the development
 of ClojureQL over the past 2.5 years you'll be excited
 to know that ClojureQL is as of today being released
 as 1.0.0 beta1.

 That means that the significant primitives from Relational
 Algebra are all in place and functional. The documentation
 is there and I've even made a screencast in order to get
 you guys started.

 Personally Im excited about this version because it really
 does change the way you work with a database. Queries
 are incredibly composable!

 For more information, please checkout this blogpost +
 screencast:http://bestinclass.dk/index.clj/2010/11/clojureql--1.0.0-now-in-beta

 Best regards,
 Lau

Great stuff Lau.  I enjoyed the screencast.

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Re: clojure-clr and mono

2010-10-08 Thread MarkH
Mono 2.8 just came out yesterday.  You don't have to wait for your
distro to package it up.  Building official source releases are as
easy as ./configure  make  make install. I just did it last night.

On Oct 8, 7:23 am, Sampo Vuori sampo.vu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I would be very interested in getting clojure-clr to work on mono. To
 me, mono would be a nice platform as it has access to many libraries I
 would like to use (and jvm doesn't) but there is not a single good
 lisp implementation which would work on top of mono! So I would really
 like to get clojure working on it.

 Bear with me as I'm not too well versed with the clr/mono/monodevelop
 yet.. I have mono 2.4 installed and monodevelop 2.2.1. I downloaded
 clojure-clr and DLR. The newest DLR from the version control doesn't
 work, since it doesn't have DLR_Main/Runtime/Microsoft.Scripting.Core/
 Microsoft.Scripting.ExtensionAttribute.csproj anymore.. So I
 downloaded the older one. I open the solution file in monodevelop and
 try to compile it.. I get following error messages (among others):

 Warning: The reference 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral,
 PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' is not valid for the target framework
 of the project. (Microsoft.Scripting)
 Warning: Assembly 'mscorlib, Version=2.0.5.0, Culture=neutral,
 PublicKeyToken=7cec85d7bea7798e' not found. Make sure that the
 assembly exists in disk. If the reference is required to build the
 project you may get compilation errors. (Microsoft.Scripting)
 Warning: Assembly 'System, Version=2.0.5.0, Culture=neutral,
 PublicKeyToken=7cec85d7bea7798e' not found. Make sure that the
 assembly exists in disk. If the reference is required to build the
 project you may get compilation errors. (Microsoft.Scripting)

 etc. Anyone know how to get over these? Anyone got further? Is Mono
 2.4 too old?

 Thanks,

 - Sampo

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Re: Thinking in Clojure

2010-09-03 Thread MarkH
Sean and Peter made comments that ring very true for me.  I've always
had a problem with Java/Smalltalk/C# type OO.  I also thought the
Common Lisp/Dylan way of generic functions and data structures made
more sense.  Like Peter mentioned, I tend to think in terms of verbs
and transformations of data.  It just makes a lot more sense to me.

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Re: New release of the enclojure plugin is up.

2009-04-09 Thread MarkH

Enclojure is shaping up to be a really nice development environment
for Clojure.  Great work Eric.

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Re: Java Posse exposure

2009-03-23 Thread MarkH

Thanks for the article.  I found it very informative.
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Re: alternate syntax

2009-02-23 Thread MarkH

Yes, clojure needs an alternative surface syntax for obvious reasons.
And anybody that brings up Dylan as a counter-example doesn't know
what they're talking about.  Dylan died because Apple killed it.


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