Re: Do you leave a Swank / nREPL in your production servers?
I've never done this w/ clojure but in my last job when we were using
Gemstone Smalltalk, I made live code changes on a fairly regular basis.
Get the quick fix out. Do the complete release cycle later. It was only a
difference of 25 minutes, but often worth it.
Not for the faint of heart. I felt a little better doing it in Gemstone
because it was transaction based and I had to commit all my code changes.
A wee bit of a net that was.
-Sean-
On Thursday, May 24, 2012, blais wrote:
Hi,
Just curious...
Is it common for people deploying Clojure servers in a production
environment to leave a swank or nrepl server running for making live bug
fixes? Do you guys do this? Would you advise against it?
Thanks,
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups Clojure group.
To post to this group, send email to
clojure@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'clojure@googlegroups.com');
Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with
your first post.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups Clojure group.
To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com
Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your
first post.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: ClojureScript source maps
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 1:19 PM, John concavel...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any interest in having ClojureScript generate source maps? http://code.google.com/p/closure-compiler/wiki/SourceMaps There are a couple of ways to accomplish this. Lots of interest from me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Who's using Clojure?
Akamai was at the conj looking to hire clojure programmers so I would assume they are as well. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Damien Lepage damienlep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm on a mission: introducing Clojure in my company, which is a big consulting company like many others. I started talking about Clojure to my manager yesterday. I was prepared to talk about all the technical benefits and he was interested. I still have a long way to go but I think that was a good start. However I need to figure out how to answer to one of his questions: who is using Clojure? Obviously I know each of you is using Clojure, that makes almost 5,000 people. I know there is Relevance and Clojure/core. I read about BackType or FlightCaster using Clojure. But, let's face it, that doesn't give me a killer answer. What could help is a list of success stories, a bit like MongoDB published here: http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Production+Deployments Is there a place where I could find this kind of information for Clojure? Thanks -- Damien Lepage http://damienlepage.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Good choices for a NoSQL database with Clojure?
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Base basselh...@gmail.com wrote: hi All - Any recommendations on a NoSQL database to use with clojure? I am experimenting if it will fit my project better than a SQL db and have no real experience with them. Strong clojure support is obviously important for this. The only one I know of is MongoDb... Thoughts?? That depends on what you are storing, how you want to access it etc. Couch and Mongo and Riak etc etc each solve different problems. So, what is your problem? Figure that out. Then pick the one that is aimed at solving that problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Jesus, how the heck to do anything?
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:04 PM, ultranewb pineapple.l...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mar 24, 7:26 am, Armando Blancas armando_blan...@yahoo.com wrote: That's quite alright. Nine out of ten people here hate java; Actually, I didn't know that. I imagined that 9 out of 10 people here would be java-ites. It's good to know that I'm in good company. The majority of java people I know who I didn't meet through clojure, aren't interested in functional programming and find lisp weird and wrong, so that doesn't really surprise me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Good choices for a NoSQL database with Clojure?
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Base basselh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks All! I guess I didnt even realize that they were so different (though that certainly makes sense). Basically I want to design a system that will have maybe 30M (eventually) complex graphs of data that need to be searchable through either pattern matching or unification or ?... The pattern s could conceivably become very complicated. My thought was that this would need to scale out horizontally and allow for a map-reduce like process to burn through these searches (though at this point i am still planning this part out and currently have my data in an RDBMS (using H2 in development - great little database). This is very new territory for me, as i am very much used to working with traditional databases so I kind of dont know where to start... Couchdb and other document oriented stores def sound like they wouldnt be what you are looking for. I havent done anything really like what you are doing so I don't know what would be right, I have done some work with Couchdb and know it wouldnt be the best fit for what you are doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
with-timeout... ?
Yesterday I was writing a bit of code that needs to wait for an external event to happen but if it doesn't happen with X amount of time, to timeout with an error. Is there a library to handle this? I know you can do it with a future and if you google the general idea, there are a few blog posts, stack overflow questions etc that all have the same basic solution. It seems like such a common thing to do that there would be a standard function/macro out there for it rather than everyone rolling their own. I couldn't however find one. Does one exist? If yes, pointer in the right direction. Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: with-timeout... ?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Baishampayan Ghose b.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I was writing a bit of code that needs to wait for an external event to happen but if it doesn't happen with X amount of time, to timeout with an error. Is there a library to handle this? I know you can do it with a future and if you google the general idea, there are a few blog posts, stack overflow questions etc that all have the same basic solution. It seems like such a common thing to do that there would be a standard function/macro out there for it rather than everyone rolling their own. I couldn't however find one. Does one exist? If yes, pointer in the right direction. You can roll your own macro to do this. Example - (defmacro with-timeout [ms body] `(let [f# (future ~@body)] (.get #^java.util.concurrent.Future f# ~ms java.util.concurrent.TimeUnit/MILLISECONDS))) Variation on that macro are what I've seen across the variety of sources I've mentioned in my original message. It just strikes me as odd that something so general hasn't made it into a library. If it really hasn't made a library, ok.. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't in a library somewhere and that keeping the hand rolled macro wasn't something I should still be doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: websockets w/ clojure
I'd missed that when it went up. Thanks for pinging the list on this. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote: I finally got around to writing this: http://blog.jayfields.com/2011/02/clojure-web-socket-introduction.html Cheers, Jay -- Forwarded message -- From: Sean Allen s...@monkeysnatchbanana.com Date: Dec 24 2010, 11:58 pm Subject: websockets w/ clojure To: Clojure Jay, Do you have any publicly released code I could take a look at? I've only found a couple of jetty/clojure/websocket examples and would love to have more I could study. -Sean- On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote: I've written a few Clojure websocket apps and used Jetty. Things worked out fine and there wasn't much code at all to integrate. I'd recommend it. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Sean Allen s...@monkeysnatchbanana.com wrote: We did a prototype application using websockets for work using node.js as the server. Websocket client connects, sending some basic info... said info is used to repeatedly get new data from a database that is pushed down as it arrives in the db to the client which displays. There will be more than 1 client, each with its own data constraints that are used to get the data to send. If it goes into production we need to run on the jvm so I've been rewriting in clojure. I spent a couple hours yesterday trying to figuring out the best websockets option to use w/ the clojure based server before I gave up. I realized w/o any background I'm just running blind. Given the basic idea of the application, what is the best websockets abstraction to use w/ clojure? Aleph? The jetty websocket support? Something else? Pointers from anyone will more experience doing a websocket server in clojure greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Why won't leiningen install for me?
I wiped my macports a while back, reinstalled everything I needed and stopped having problems like this. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.comwrote: Seems pretty clear that your macports version of curl is the problem, it's up to you what you want to do about it. I don't know if uninstalling it would leave you with the OS X version of curl or not. Link to get you started: http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2009/09/12/macports-on-snow-leopard/ http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2009/09/12/macports-on-snow-leopard/ On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Larry Travis tra...@cs.wisc.edu wrote: Mark, John, Gaz: Your responses are all suggestive but I don't know where to go from here so I am going to make one more cry for help -- and to this group rather than the leiningen-specific one suggested by Mark because my basic problem is really how-to-get-clojure/emacs-running-under-MacOsX. Here is the situation, and my further questions: -- I am running OsX 10.6 on a machine that has never had an earlier OsX version running on it so there should not be problems involving 10.5 to 10.6 upgrade. -- I have downloaded and installed Macports -- including a recent upgrade. If Macports' version of curl is indeed the culprit, how do I get it replaced with a version that could download leiningen? Do I dare just simply uninstall Macports -- which I am not using right now in any case? (All I want to do right now is work with Clojure!) -- Although it surprised me, when I checked to see to what kernel my iMac was defaulting, I was told i386. What else could the leiningen installation process be asking for? Surely it wouldn't be expecting x86_64. -- In the webpage Mark pointed me to is the assertion: If only ppc and i386 are present, while you require x86_64, then the library cannot be loaded. But also, from a different commentator: This issue was fixed in a later version of MacPorts with better 10.6 x86_64 compatibility. Is there some way to determine if the installation process is indeed expecting an x86_64 architecture? Thanks again. --Larry -- On 1/22/11 2:16 PM, gaz jones wrote: are you sure you dont have curl installed by macports or something? /usr/bin/curl on mac os x works fine with https for me... someone at work had this problem and they had (unknowingly) installed curl through macports... On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Bizicsjohn.stuart.hun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Larry, I had problems installing too. Turns out curl on mac os x does not support https as required by github now. I had to download and rebuild curl with the +ssl flag for https to be supported and then things worked fine. I could dig up my notes from when I did it if you need more information. Cheers, John On Jan 21, 4:49 pm, Larry Travistra...@cs.wisc.edu wrote: I get the following when I try to install Leiningen: --- larrytravis$ lein-install.sh self-install Downloading Leiningen now... dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib Referenced from: /opt/local/bin/curl Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: /opt/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Users/larrytravis/bin/lein-install.sh: line 175: 2851 Trace/BPT trap $HTTP_CLIENT $LEIN_JAR $LEIN_URL Failed to downloadhttps:// github.com/downloads/technomancy/leiningen/leiningen-1.4.2-st... Can anybody advise me as to what I am doing wrong? /lein-install.sh/ is the script available at: https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/raw/stable/bin/lein Also I can't download /leiningen-1.4.2-standalone.jar/ directly fromhttps://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/downloads, but I don't think I would know what to do with it if I could! I am a Java tyro (who knows some other lisps reasonably well) trying to use clojure under Mac Os X and Emacs, but I am having a lot of problems getting clojure to run conveniently in that environment. Thanks for your help. --Larry Travis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit
Re: list* does not make a list?
the documentation on that could be improved. the doc string for that is basically the same as for list. but they return different types. rather surprising when you first see it. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alan a...@malloys.org wrote: list* consumes its last argument lazily, which means it can't count it (a requirement to be a real list). Both functions return objects that are seqs, though, so you can (seq?) them if you want. user= (def x (list* (range))) #'user/x user= (def x (apply list (range))) java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space (NO_SOURCE_FILE:4) On Jan 16, 10:21 am, Brian Marick mar...@exampler.com wrote: movies.core (list? (apply list (map identity [1 2 3]))) true Makes sense to me! movies.core (list? (list* (map identity [1 2 3]))) false Huh? - Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador Contract programming in Ruby and Clojure Author of /Ring/ (forthcoming; sample: http://bit.ly/hfdf9T)www.exampler.com,www.exampler.com/blog,www.twitter.com/marick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
my newbie question...
So i've used this because I picked it up from numerous tutorials but I've never really understood it, can I get a some decent background information on - and -? I picked them up from compojure tutorials and don't feel anywhere near comfortable enough w/ what is actually going on. Thanks. -Sean- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: My first clojure web app
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Timothy Pratley timothyprat...@gmail.comwrote: Neat, looks pretty nice. I love invitations to nit pick! database.clj (defn complete-todo [id] (dosync (ref-set *todo* (vec (remove #(= (get % :id) id) @*todo*) 1) ref-set is unnecessary you could re-factor this to use alter. The result is the same, but semantically set only applies when the new value cannot be calculated from the old. I thought the update function to alter had to be able to take sequence item so that you could use conj with alter but not cons. and by the same idea, because remove takes the sequence 2nd, it could be used w/ alter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
My first clojure web app
I finally moved on from messing around with stuff in the repl and trying to get a firm grasp on all things clojure and dove into doing a little web development with it. I hadn't used ring, compojure or enlive before so I kept that functionality in the app really minimal. I'd appreciate feedback on: ways my clojure code could be improved/made more idiomatic. things i did wrong with ring, compojure and enlive code organization etc. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a look and gives me so feedback. Code is on github at: https://github.com/SeanTAllen/Simple-Compojure-To-Do -Sean- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
websockets w/ clojure
We did a prototype application using websockets for work using node.js as the server. Websocket client connects, sending some basic info... said info is used to repeatedly get new data from a database that is pushed down as it arrives in the db to the client which displays. There will be more than 1 client, each with its own data constraints that are used to get the data to send. If it goes into production we need to run on the jvm so I've been rewriting in clojure. I spent a couple hours yesterday trying to figuring out the best websockets option to use w/ the clojure based server before I gave up. I realized w/o any background I'm just running blind. Given the basic idea of the application, what is the best websockets abstraction to use w/ clojure? Aleph? The jetty websocket support? Something else? Pointers from anyone will more experience doing a websocket server in clojure greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: websockets w/ clojure
Jay, Do you have any publicly released code I could take a look at? I've only found a couple of jetty/clojure/websocket examples and would love to have more I could study. -Sean- On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote: I've written a few Clojure websocket apps and used Jetty. Things worked out fine and there wasn't much code at all to integrate. I'd recommend it. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Sean Allen s...@monkeysnatchbanana.com wrote: We did a prototype application using websockets for work using node.js as the server. Websocket client connects, sending some basic info... said info is used to repeatedly get new data from a database that is pushed down as it arrives in the db to the client which displays. There will be more than 1 client, each with its own data constraints that are used to get the data to send. If it goes into production we need to run on the jvm so I've been rewriting in clojure. I spent a couple hours yesterday trying to figuring out the best websockets option to use w/ the clojure based server before I gave up. I realized w/o any background I'm just running blind. Given the basic idea of the application, what is the best websockets abstraction to use w/ clojure? Aleph? The jetty websocket support? Something else? Pointers from anyone will more experience doing a websocket server in clojure greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: A suggestion for the next Conj
I really like this idea. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.comwrote: Speed dating at the clojure conj, yay ! (not totally non-sense, really) 2010/11/3 Alexy Khrabrov alexy.khrab...@gmail.com: Badges could have much bigger font/be more readable, but they are not the only, and not the main thing; a mixer format is, and it should be something deliberate as even random motion over 2 days is not enough to bring all particles next to each other! -- Alexy On Nov 3, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Petrilli wrote: I was thinking that it would be handy if the badges next year had space for that. I'd be happy to whip up something to collect the data and print the badges. Chris On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Alexy Khrabrov alexy.khrab...@gmail.com wrote: I'd really like to meet everybody from IRC and github, but apparently missed some. So perhaps we can have a meet-and-greet session, where folks will stand up and announce their IRC and github nicks! We also need some color coding, as @hiredman could be easily confused with @liebke! @alexyk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- | Chris Petrilli | petri...@amber.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Conj arrivals and Thursday night...
What hackathon? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Alex Miller alexdmil...@yahoo.com wrote: The Revelytix crew will be in around dinner time on Thursday. I'm happy to spring for food during the hackathon courtesy of Strange Loop or take a group out to dinner - whatever happens to be convenient. Alex Miller -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Conj arrivals and Thursday night...
I get in after a 9 hour train ride around 4:40 + time from train station. Would certainly be up for some non amtrak food once I arrive. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz apg...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Conj goers, I'm scheduled to arrive around 6:30, and after I check in am planning to spend the rest of the night writing code. Anyone want to help commandeer a random lobby to join in on the fun? Andrew -- http://www.apgwoz.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comclojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Thinking in Clojure
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:29 PM, HB hubaghd...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I finished reading Programming Clojure and Practical Clojure and I'm hooked :) Please count me in the Clojure club. But I failed how to think in Clojure. My main career is around Java web applications (Hibernate, Spring, Lucene) and Web services. Lets not talk about Java web frameworks neither Clojure ones, I want to talk in general. Usually we create some domain entities, map them with Hibernate/ iBatis. I don't know how a Clojure application would be build without objects. I think Scala really shines here, this OOP/FP is really powerful approach (please note I'm not saying Clojure isn't good, I don't seel flame war) How to think in Clojure? how to achieve this shift? Reading a bit about OOP in either Common Lisp or Dylan might help ease you into 'thinking clojure'. It can provide a bridge between then Java OOP way and other ways of doing OOP. I had the opposite problem from you. When I started programming, Dylan and Common Lisp style OOP made far more sense to me then the C++/Java way ( and the Smalltalk way but I didn't want to group it with C++/Java ). There is a fundamental difference in OOP in Lisp style languages from the Algol ones and knowing more about those other forms of OOP might make the path easier to see. There is an older Guy Steele essay that talks in part about Scheme and OOP ( something that most people consider anti-ethical ) http://dreamsongs.com/ObjectsHaveNotFailedNarr.html Basic message, some form of OOP is possible in any language, it is just how easy it is made. As David said, I would be careful about reaching for the methods in Clojure that makes OOP easier and work more with maps, vectors, fns etc and then look at the others. - for more info on OOP in dylan see: http://www.opendylan.org/books/drm/ for more info about OOP in Common Lisp, I would recommened: http://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Programming-Common-Lisp-Programmers/dp/0201175894/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1283484149sr=8-9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Blogs/Twitter accounts about Clojure
2010/9/3 Christian Guimarães cguimaraes...@gmail.com: Everybody here has a common interest. Clojure. And I think that all people here can contribute with relevant informations. So, why not follow the guys from this list. Interested? Add your twitter account bellow. Cheers. @csgui (Christian Guimaraes) @SeanTAllen ( but I do far more smalltalk than anything else right now ). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Blogs/Twitter accounts about Clojure
a few off the top of my head: @fogus @planetclojure @disclojure @stuartholloway @liebke @richhickey blog.fogus.me dosync.posterous.com m.3wa.com nathanmarz.com On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM, HB hubaghd...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Would you please recommend some good Blogs/Twitter accounts about Clojure? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure's n00b attraction problem
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM, cageface milese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 29, 10:50 pm, Sean Allen s...@monkeysnatchbanana.com wrote: So those who left Java behind years ago but like Lisps in general and Clojure in particular and want to minimize their contact with Java, where do they fit in your view? Enemies of the proper use of Clojure? Destroyers of the future? Dogs barking up the wrong tree. The larger the clojure community gets, the more you should be prepared for those dogs then. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clj on OSX
Thanks very much for your help. Where are you getting the .zip file you describe? As far as I can tell the Github project only includes a link to the .jar file. When I try to run that file by double-clicking it I get an error dialog: The Java JAR file 'clj-1.0.0-SNAPSHOT-standalone.jar' could not be launched. Check the Console for possible error messages. When I try running 'java -jar clj-1.0.0-SNAPSHOT-standalone.jar self-install' from the command line I get the exception and stack trace I described previously. Downloading the jar file using either Safari or Chrome on Mac OS gets you a .zip file rather than the .jar that Firefox gives you. Perhaps a webkit issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: State of Clojure web development
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:23 PM, James Reeves weavejes...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello there! Chas Emerick's recent State of Clojure survey [http://bit.ly/dtdAwb] indicated that a significant proportion of Clojure users are beginning to use Clojure for web development. A recent Hacker News posting [http://bit.ly/91Bu5J] seems to corroborate these results, with several Clojure-based web applications already out in the wild. As one of the main developers of Ring and Compojure, I'd be very interested to hear more about how people are using Clojure to build web apps. To this end, I have a few questions I'd like to quiz Clojure web developers about: 1. Have you written, or are you writing, a web application that uses Clojure? What does it do? I considered it but I needed comet support and didn't want to roll my own when my practical clojure experience was limited. I think that clojure would be an excellent platform for what I was planning on doing but it lacked the comet support I needed so I'm implementing in Seaside for Gemstone's Smalltalk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
