Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-06 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Zach,
sorry for my late reply.
It seems that 0.0.4 indeed solves the problem with run repl!
Thx very much,
   Arie


2013/8/6 Marcus Blankenship mar...@creoagency.com

 Hey Zach,

 First, this is awesome.  Really.  Awesome.  ;-)

 Second, you should put an email sign-up on this page, so folks can be
 notified when you update it, or when you have other cool things to say.
  Anyone that builds this kind of product probably has other cool things to
 say, and I would want to hear them.

 Just my $0.02.
 Marcus


 On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just pushed 0.0.4 to the website. I received reports that it fixes the
 nightcode.lein error, but please let me know if anyone experiences
 otherwise.

 On Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03:03 AM UTC-4, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)
 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects
 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects
 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands
 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)
 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)
 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)
 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)
 -Quick switching between recent files
 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation
 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)
 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!


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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-06 Thread Jörg Winter
Hey Zach, great initiative! Keep it going.. much needed toole there!

Just wanted to say that for indenting/reformatting clojure-code, it is 
indeed possible to
use clojure's own pprint function.

Unfortunately the official java API.invoke() is only available in clojure 
1.6
But I have used this successfully already, so maybe this can help you 
somewhere.

Best,
Joerg

Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013 05:42:40 UTC+2 schrieb Zach Oakes:

 I just pushed 0.0.4 to the website. I received reports that it fixes the 
 nightcode.lein error, but please let me know if anyone experiences 
 otherwise.

 On Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03:03 AM UTC-4, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!



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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread Zach Oakes
Arie, it looks like this is occurring for a lot of people. In lein.clj, I'm 
using two different methods to launch a process, a fast method that 
leverages Leiningen's trampoline feature, and a slow method that runs 
nightcode.lein which in turn runs Leiningen commands (i.e. it adds a level 
of indirection).

The Run with REPL button uses the slow method, because it doesn't work 
correctly with the fast method. I'm having a hard time figuring out why the 
slow method fails for some people, and not others. I've made some changes, 
so if you have the time, please try cloning the repo and running `lein 
run`, and see if the Run with REPL button still throws that error. Any 
help in this regard would be really appreciated.

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:40:54 AM UTC-4, Arie van Wingerden wrote:

 Hi Zach,

 0.0.1 worked OK.
 0.0.3 gives this error when Run with REPL:
Error: Could not find or load main class nightcode.lein

 TIA,
   Arie


 2013/8/3 Zach Oakes zso...@gmail.com javascript:

 Thanks for the complements! I just released 0.0.2, which should make 
 Run/Build faster and more reliable. It also fixes shortcuts on OS X so they 
 use command instead of control.


 On Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:07:31 AM UTC-4, Manuel Paccagnella wrote:

 Wow, it looks very promising. I'd also like add a +1 for smart indent 
 and paredit. 

 Kudos to you Zach!

 Manuel

 Il giorno venerdì 2 agosto 2013 15:03:03 UTC+2, Zach Oakes ha scritto:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started 
 as an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I 
 decided to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so 
 please be gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java 
 projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, 
 etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which 
 is slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread Phil Hagelberg
On Friday, August 2, 2013 8:49:06 AM UTC-7, Zach Oakes wrote:
 As for my choice of public domain, I always do that for my projects.
 
Of course it's your choice, but are you aware there are jurisdictions in 
which users cannot legally make copies of code released in the public 
domain?

-Phil

[1] 
- 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain#Dedicating_works_to_the_public_domain
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread Phil Hagelberg
 As for my choice of public domain, I always do that for my
 projects. I realize that I am going against the grain, but it's a
 principled issue for me. I wrote about it on my blog, but if you'd
 like to discuss it further we should do it elsewhere because it can
 easily derail the thread.

Oops; replied before I read the whole email. I'll assume your aware of this 
then; moving on.

-Phil



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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread kovas boguta
I've just released paredit-widget, https://github.com/kovasb/paredit-widget

with the intention of creating a drop-in paredit solution for projects like
nightcode. Its still pretty experimental but might be an interesting test
case to try to integrate.





On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Matthew Chadwick mathn...@gmail.com wrote:

 this is great!

 please please add structural editing (not simply bracket-matching in a
 text-editor, but direct manipulation of Clojure data structures (including
 code). I've been trying out some ideas in this area  would be happy to
 help out.


 On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:03:03 PM UTC+10, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread Zach Oakes
kovasb, that looks really great. Could you modify it to allow passing in an 
existing JTextArea? Right now it appears to be instantiating its own, 
whereas I am using 
TextEditorPanehttp://javadoc.fifesoft.com/rsyntaxtextarea/org/fife/ui/rsyntaxtextarea/TextEditorPane.html,
 
which inherits JTextArea.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:51:15 PM UTC-4, kovasb wrote:

 I've just released paredit-widget, 
 https://github.com/kovasb/paredit-widget

 with the intention of creating a drop-in paredit solution for projects 
 like nightcode. Its still pretty experimental but might be an interesting 
 test case to try to integrate.





 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Matthew Chadwick 
 math...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 this is great!

 please please add structural editing (not simply bracket-matching in a 
 text-editor, but direct manipulation of Clojure data structures (including 
 code). I've been trying out some ideas in this area  would be happy to 
 help out.


 On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:03:03 PM UTC+10, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-05 Thread Zach Oakes
I just pushed 0.0.4 to the website. I received reports that it fixes the 
nightcode.lein error, but please let me know if anyone experiences 
otherwise.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03:03 AM UTC-4, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!


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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-04 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Zach,

0.0.1 worked OK.
0.0.3 gives this error when Run with REPL:
   Error: Could not find or load main class nightcode.lein

TIA,
  Arie


2013/8/3 Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com

 Thanks for the complements! I just released 0.0.2, which should make
 Run/Build faster and more reliable. It also fixes shortcuts on OS X so they
 use command instead of control.


 On Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:07:31 AM UTC-4, Manuel Paccagnella wrote:

 Wow, it looks very promising. I'd also like add a +1 for smart indent and
 paredit.

 Kudos to you Zach!

 Manuel

 Il giorno venerdì 2 agosto 2013 15:03:03 UTC+2, Zach Oakes ha scritto:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-04 Thread Matthew Chadwick
this is great!

please please add structural editing (not simply bracket-matching in a 
text-editor, but direct manipulation of Clojure data structures (including 
code). I've been trying out some ideas in this area  would be happy to 
help out.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:03:03 PM UTC+10, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!


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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-04 Thread Frank Hale
Zach, I just want to say THANK YOU for doing what  you are doing. Your work
is very much needed! Take care!


On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Matthew Chadwick mathn...@gmail.comwrote:

 this is great!

 please please add structural editing (not simply bracket-matching in a
 text-editor, but direct manipulation of Clojure data structures (including
 code). I've been trying out some ideas in this area  would be happy to
 help out.

 On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:03:03 PM UTC+10, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-03 Thread Colin Fleming
Hi Zach,

Congratulations, Nightcode looks very impressive - it looks like a worthy
Clooj successor. I'll definitely download it and check it out.

Cheers,
Colin


On 3 August 2013 07:07, Dave Ray dave...@gmail.com wrote:

 In Seesaw [1] you can specify your shortcuts as menu S instead of ctrl
 S and it will pick the right one for the platform.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 [1] my memory's a little fuzzy here :)



 On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's a good point, I should be using command instead of control on OSX.
 I don't have a Mac so that slipped my mind; I'll make a note of it.


 On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:54:45 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote:


 On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Heon wrote:
  If I can suggest the one feature that I couldn't bear to use an IDE
 without:
  Strict Structural Editing Mode (paredit-style)

 But please note that while many love paredit, many others hate it -- so
 if you implement this I would make it optional.

 Also:

 On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
  . (Hm, when using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I
 added above -main...)

 That happened to me and in my case it was because I hadn't saved the
 changed file... thought I did because I had hit command-s (on a mac) while
 Nightcode save is control-s.

  One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor
 window.

 Totally essential, IMHO.

 If I can dream big, after the core editing features, somewhere near the
 top of my own feature wish-list would be a debugging feature that I think
 is currently available for Clojure only in emacs via nrepl-ritz (oh,
 actually now I think I see that it's available in a vim environment too):
 the ability to browse or at least print the values of locals up and down
 the stack at the point of an exception (presumably in a run with
 locals-clearing off, although it'd be great to see whatever hasn't been
 cleared anyway).

 There's a long thread of discussion about this and related ideas here:
 https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!topic/clojure/**qhdCrUoT_O0https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/qhdCrUoT_O0

 It'd be totally fabulous to have this feature in a Clojure IDE that's as
 clean and usable as Clooj or Nightcode.

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-03 Thread Manuel Paccagnella
Wow, it looks very promising. I'd also like add a +1 for smart indent and 
paredit. 

Kudos to you Zach!

Manuel

Il giorno venerdì 2 agosto 2013 15:03:03 UTC+2, Zach Oakes ha scritto:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!


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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-03 Thread Zach Oakes
Thanks for the complements! I just released 0.0.2, which should make 
Run/Build faster and more reliable. It also fixes shortcuts on OS X so they 
use command instead of control.

On Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:07:31 AM UTC-4, Manuel Paccagnella wrote:

 Wow, it looks very promising. I'd also like add a +1 for smart indent and 
 paredit. 

 Kudos to you Zach!

 Manuel

 Il giorno venerdì 2 agosto 2013 15:03:03 UTC+2, Zach Oakes ha scritto:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!



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[ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Zach Oakes


I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as an 
attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided to 
start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
gentle:

http://nightcode.info/

Here’s what it has:

-Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

-Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

-Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

-Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

-Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

-ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

-Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

Here’s what it’s missing:

-Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

-Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

-Quick switching between recent files

-Jump to definition, built-in documentation

-Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

-Integration with git
-Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Lee Spector

On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as an 
 attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided to 
 start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:
 
 http://nightcode.info/

Very exciting!

I've just given it a quick initial test and will definitely be trying it out 
more.

Thanks!!

 -Lee

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Alexander Yakushev
This initial version looks very mature already! I wonder what will become 
of it by the time of the release.

Great job, Zach! Eagerly waiting to see Nightcode's future.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 4:03:03 PM UTC+3, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!


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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Arie van Wingerden
What a fantastic initiative!
It already looks great and promises a lot.
I love the leight weight approach, still having lots of features.
Keep up the good work!


2013/8/2 Alexander Yakushev unlo...@bytopia.org

 This initial version looks very mature already! I wonder what will become
 of it by the time of the release.

 Great job, Zach! Eagerly waiting to see Nightcode's future.


 On Friday, August 2, 2013 4:03:03 PM UTC+3, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Steven Degutis
Excited to try it out! Thanks for your hard work :)


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/

 Here’s what it has:

 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days

 Here’s what it’s missing:

 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git
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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Laurent PETIT
Great initiative !

Is it okay if I ask what your plans are?
Asking because in the past, there have been similar initiative which
are now either dead or at a slow pace, so it'd be good to know if it's
a between-2-jobs project that might not be pursued in the future, or
if you're serious about giving it time for a long period, etc. Feel
free to answer or not :-)

I saw that you use public domain as a license. Why so? I can see
people be relunctant to publish their work / submit pull requests with
such a free for everyone type of license. But maybe it's just me.
What about the EPL, the same as Clojure, Leiningen, Counterclockwise,
and a buuunnnch of other clojure all around us?




2013/8/2 Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com:
 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as an
 attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided to
 start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be
 gentle:


 http://nightcode.info/


 Here’s what it has:


 -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw)

 -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects

 -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java projects

 -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands

 -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, etc)

 -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin)

 -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days


 Here’s what it’s missing:


 -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is
 slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help)

 -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc)

 -Quick switching between recent files

 -Jump to definition, built-in documentation

 -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file)

 -Integration with git

 -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Zach Oakes
I definitely plan on continuing development of Nightcode. As of yesterday, 
I am unemployed, so for the time being I have a lot of time on my hands. I 
am hoping to support myself with freelancing and tutoring in the Pittsburgh 
area. If that works out, I should be able to work on Nightcode (and my 
other project, Nightweb) indefinitely. We'll see how it goes.

As for my choice of public domain, I always do that for my projects. I 
realize that I am going against the grain, but it's a principled issue for 
me. I wrote about it on my bloghttps://nightweb.net/blog/public-domain.html, 
but if you'd like to discuss it further we should do it elsewhere because 
it can easily derail the thread.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:36:28 AM UTC-4, Laurent PETIT wrote:

 Great initiative ! 

 Is it okay if I ask what your plans are? 
 Asking because in the past, there have been similar initiative which 
 are now either dead or at a slow pace, so it'd be good to know if it's 
 a between-2-jobs project that might not be pursued in the future, or 
 if you're serious about giving it time for a long period, etc. Feel 
 free to answer or not :-) 

 I saw that you use public domain as a license. Why so? I can see 
 people be relunctant to publish their work / submit pull requests with 
 such a free for everyone type of license. But maybe it's just me. 
 What about the EPL, the same as Clojure, Leiningen, Counterclockwise, 
 and a buuunnnch of other clojure all around us? 




 2013/8/2 Zach Oakes zso...@gmail.com javascript:: 
  I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an 
  attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to 
  start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
  gentle: 
  
  
  http://nightcode.info/ 
  
  
  Here’s what it has: 
  
  
  -Written in Clojure (the UI is written with seesaw) 
  
  -Built-in copy of Leiningen to build Clojure and pure-Java projects 
  
  -Built-in templates for several common types of Clojure and Java 
 projects 
  
  -Always-on REPL in the corner to try Clojure commands 
  
  -Android integration (includes the lein-droid plugin, LogCat output, 
 etc) 
  
  -ClojureScript integration (includes the lein-cljsbuild plugin) 
  
  -Cool looking dark theme, because that’s trendy these days 
  
  
  Here’s what it’s missing: 
  
  
  -Fast build times (it launches Leiningen in a separate process, which is 
  slw...I plan on fixing this and would love any help) 
  
  -Important editing features (code completion, text replace, etc) 
  
  -Quick switching between recent files 
  
  -Jump to definition, built-in documentation 
  
  -Integration between editor and REPL (eval form or entire file) 
  
  -Integration with git 
  
  -Many other things -- please give me your thoughts! 
  
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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Laurent PETIT
2013/8/2 Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com:
 I definitely plan on continuing development of Nightcode. As of yesterday, I
 am unemployed, so for the time being I have a lot of time on my hands. I am
 hoping to support myself with freelancing and tutoring in the Pittsburgh
 area. If that works out, I should be able to work on Nightcode (and my other
 project, Nightweb) indefinitely. We'll see how it goes.

That's great. Because Clojure deserves an easy entry point. I like
what I've seen so far, it's inspiring.


 As for my choice of public domain, I always do that for my projects. I
 realize that I am going against the grain, but it's a principled issue for
 me. I wrote about it on my blog, but if you'd like to discuss it further we
 should do it elsewhere because it can easily derail the thread.

I will not start a discussion on the merits of public domain over EPL
or vice versa.

Just want to notice that you have a whole ecosystem around your
codebase, upon which you depend, which may start to depend upon you
also, and it is not public domain.

And I think it would probably help exchanging code between those
projects and yours if they have compatible licenses. Of course I can
see public domain code migrating easily to EPL code, but is the
reverse true?

All I need to know is if you're willing to stand by your rule for
nightcode, or make an exception.

Cheers,

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Zach Oakes
I have no problem using third-party code that is copyright-licensed, but 
for the sake of sanity I'd prefer that modifications to my own code be 
public domain -- it can get really absurd if one line of code in a file is 
EPL-licensed and the rest is public domain. There should not be any issue 
with using my code in other projects.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:56:01 AM UTC-4, Laurent PETIT wrote:

 2013/8/2 Zach Oakes zso...@gmail.com javascript:: 
  I definitely plan on continuing development of Nightcode. As of 
 yesterday, I 
  am unemployed, so for the time being I have a lot of time on my hands. I 
 am 
  hoping to support myself with freelancing and tutoring in the Pittsburgh 
  area. If that works out, I should be able to work on Nightcode (and my 
 other 
  project, Nightweb) indefinitely. We'll see how it goes. 

 That's great. Because Clojure deserves an easy entry point. I like 
 what I've seen so far, it's inspiring. 


  As for my choice of public domain, I always do that for my projects. I 
  realize that I am going against the grain, but it's a principled issue 
 for 
  me. I wrote about it on my blog, but if you'd like to discuss it further 
 we 
  should do it elsewhere because it can easily derail the thread. 

 I will not start a discussion on the merits of public domain over EPL 
 or vice versa. 

 Just want to notice that you have a whole ecosystem around your 
 codebase, upon which you depend, which may start to depend upon you 
 also, and it is not public domain. 

 And I think it would probably help exchanging code between those 
 projects and yours if they have compatible licenses. Of course I can 
 see public domain code migrating easily to EPL code, but is the 
 reverse true? 

 All I need to know is if you're willing to stand by your rule for 
 nightcode, or make an exception. 

 Cheers, 

 -- 
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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Jeff Heon
That's really cool. Thank you for doing this!

I really like the import feature, coloring and keyboard friendlyness.

If I can suggest the one feature that I couldn't bear to use an IDE without:
Strict Structural Editing Mode 
(paredit-style)https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/wiki/EditorKeyBindingsFeatures#Strict_Structural_Editing_Mode_(paredit-style)

Basically I get pissed-off if an editor kills my selected expression when I 
type a paren or some other twin delimiter 8)

I even wish I had it when editing other languages than Clojure.

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread John Gabriele
On Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03:03 AM UTC-4, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/


Some comments:

  * Wow the GUI looks amazing! Works great as well.
  * Rather than use a built-in lein, is there any way I can have it use my 
own ~/bin/lein? Why does it come with its own leiningen?
  * To open an existing project: Why import rather than open?

Is the repl at the bottom-left associated with a given project? It seems to 
be the same as if I'd run `lein repl` in the dir from where I ran the jar. 
(Hm. I can't get at any `(doc whatever)` from here...)

The buttons below the text-editing area correspond to the project to which 
the given open file belongs, correct? If so, that's really nice. (Hm, when 
using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I added above 
-main...)

One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor window.

Seems to be quite a nice piece of work so far!

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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Zach Oakes
I agree that better parenthesis and indentation behavior is a must; I'll 
add that to my list. The REPL at the bottom left is not associated with 
your project; I thought it would be nice to just have a bare, always-on 
REPL to test clojure commands.

The Run with REPL button should use the leiningen REPL with your 
project's namespaces available, but I don't yet have any interaction 
between the editor and REPL, so any functions you add after loading the 
REPL won't be available -- I'll be fixing this soon.

A few people mentioned to me that they are getting errors when trying to 
run or build anything. I'll be overhauling how Leiningen is run so that 
should be fixed soon -- like I mentioned in the original post, I am 
currently running it in a separate process and it's quite slow and 
inefficient even when it works.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:26:44 PM UTC-4, John Gabriele wrote:

 On Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03:03 AM UTC-4, Zach Oakes wrote:

 I’ve been working on a simple IDE for the past few months. It started as 
 an attempt to add Leiningen integration to Clooj, but eventually I decided 
 to start a new project from scratch. It is very alpha-quality, so please be 
 gentle:

 http://nightcode.info/


 Some comments:

   * Wow the GUI looks amazing! Works great as well.
   * Rather than use a built-in lein, is there any way I can have it use my 
 own ~/bin/lein? Why does it come with its own leiningen?
   * To open an existing project: Why import rather than open?

 Is the repl at the bottom-left associated with a given project? It seems 
 to be the same as if I'd run `lein repl` in the dir from where I ran the 
 jar. (Hm. I can't get at any `(doc whatever)` from here...)

 The buttons below the text-editing area correspond to the project to which 
 the given open file belongs, correct? If so, that's really nice. (Hm, when 
 using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I added above 
 -main...)

 One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor window.

 Seems to be quite a nice piece of work so far!

 -- John



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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Lee Spector

On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Heon wrote:
 If I can suggest the one feature that I couldn't bear to use an IDE without:
 Strict Structural Editing Mode (paredit-style)

But please note that while many love paredit, many others hate it -- so if you 
implement this I would make it optional.

Also:

On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
 . (Hm, when using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I added 
 above -main...)

That happened to me and in my case it was because I hadn't saved the changed 
file... thought I did because I had hit command-s (on a mac) while Nightcode 
save is control-s.

 One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor window.

Totally essential, IMHO.

If I can dream big, after the core editing features, somewhere near the top of 
my own feature wish-list would be a debugging feature that I think is currently 
available for Clojure only in emacs via nrepl-ritz (oh, actually now I think I 
see that it's available in a vim environment too): the ability to browse or at 
least print the values of locals up and down the stack at the point of an 
exception (presumably in a run with locals-clearing off, although it'd be great 
to see whatever hasn't been cleared anyway).

There's a long thread of discussion about this and related ideas here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/qhdCrUoT_O0

It'd be totally fabulous to have this feature in a Clojure IDE that's as clean 
and usable as Clooj or Nightcode.

 -Lee




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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Zach Oakes
That's a good point, I should be using command instead of control on OSX. I 
don't have a Mac so that slipped my mind; I'll make a note of it.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:54:45 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote:


 On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Heon wrote: 
  If I can suggest the one feature that I couldn't bear to use an IDE 
 without: 
  Strict Structural Editing Mode (paredit-style) 

 But please note that while many love paredit, many others hate it -- so if 
 you implement this I would make it optional. 

 Also: 

 On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, John Gabriele wrote: 
  . (Hm, when using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I 
 added above -main...) 

 That happened to me and in my case it was because I hadn't saved the 
 changed file... thought I did because I had hit command-s (on a mac) while 
 Nightcode save is control-s. 

  One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor 
 window. 

 Totally essential, IMHO. 

 If I can dream big, after the core editing features, somewhere near the 
 top of my own feature wish-list would be a debugging feature that I think 
 is currently available for Clojure only in emacs via nrepl-ritz (oh, 
 actually now I think I see that it's available in a vim environment too): 
 the ability to browse or at least print the values of locals up and down 
 the stack at the point of an exception (presumably in a run with 
 locals-clearing off, although it'd be great to see whatever hasn't been 
 cleared anyway). 

 There's a long thread of discussion about this and related ideas here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/qhdCrUoT_O0 

 It'd be totally fabulous to have this feature in a Clojure IDE that's as 
 clean and usable as Clooj or Nightcode. 

  -Lee 






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Re: [ANN] Nightcode, an IDE for Clojure and Java

2013-08-02 Thread Dave Ray
In Seesaw [1] you can specify your shortcuts as menu S instead of ctrl
S and it will pick the right one for the platform.

Cheers,

Dave

[1] my memory's a little fuzzy here :)



On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's a good point, I should be using command instead of control on OSX.
 I don't have a Mac so that slipped my mind; I'll make a note of it.


 On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:54:45 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote:


 On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Heon wrote:
  If I can suggest the one feature that I couldn't bear to use an IDE
 without:
  Strict Structural Editing Mode (paredit-style)

 But please note that while many love paredit, many others hate it -- so
 if you implement this I would make it optional.

 Also:

 On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
  . (Hm, when using Run with REPL, having trouble calling a function I
 added above -main...)

 That happened to me and in my case it was because I hadn't saved the
 changed file... thought I did because I had hit command-s (on a mac) while
 Nightcode save is control-s.

  One big issue I see right now: no smart indentation in the editor
 window.

 Totally essential, IMHO.

 If I can dream big, after the core editing features, somewhere near the
 top of my own feature wish-list would be a debugging feature that I think
 is currently available for Clojure only in emacs via nrepl-ritz (oh,
 actually now I think I see that it's available in a vim environment too):
 the ability to browse or at least print the values of locals up and down
 the stack at the point of an exception (presumably in a run with
 locals-clearing off, although it'd be great to see whatever hasn't been
 cleared anyway).

 There's a long thread of discussion about this and related ideas here:
 https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!topic/clojure/**qhdCrUoT_O0https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/qhdCrUoT_O0

 It'd be totally fabulous to have this feature in a Clojure IDE that's as
 clean and usable as Clooj or Nightcode.

  -Lee




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