Re: Making a living on Clojure
Have any of you had a look at the Commercial Users of Functional Programming (CUFP) group? They are not specific to Clojure, but are people who have been working on making the business case for functional languages like clojure. They would probably be interested in this discussion. http://groups.google.com/group/cufp Regards, Chance On Oct 14, 3:13 pm, Fogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to work Clojure (at least partially) into my job, but in doing so I wonder how many of you here use it at your own jobs as opposed to relegating it to hobby. -m --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Making a living on Clojure
I am attempting to work Clojure (at least partially) into my job, but in doing so I wonder how many of you here use it at your own jobs as opposed to relegating it to hobby. -m --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Making a living on Clojure
Hi, On 14 Okt., 22:13, Fogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to work Clojure (at least partially) into my job, but in doing so I wonder how many of you here use it at your own jobs as opposed to relegating it to hobby. I'm using Clojure at my job, but mainly to make my life easier. It's something which doesn't show up in HR files and my boss doesn't care as long as it gets the job done. So maybe not what you are interested in. How did Rich put it? I know of some companies, who use it as their secret weapon. Nevertheless: Although it's not a big project I see the savings in time and code, which were already stated by others. I planned to give the GUI to a student worker to implement it in Java, so that I can focus on the bussiness logic in the backend. But I'm about to change my mind and go for full Clojure. Maybe I can infect him with the Clojuritis but I have little hope... In any case: if it has to run on the JVM and no one cares how it looks like under the hood, I would go for Clojure. Although one has to bring the patience to adapt to the development. (I had several changes while tracking the development of clojure.contrib.lib to clojure/ns.) Take this with a grain of salt. I'm not a software developer. Just my two cents. Sincerely Meikel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Making a living on Clojure
I'm one of about a dozen developers on a 250 kloc Java codebase that has a DSL of sorts in it: boolean predicate trees representing targeting for ad campaigns. I write, among other things, tree- rewriting compilers that turn those trees into SQL where clauses, scheduling buckets, floating point numbers for forecasts, functors for figuring out ad request eligibility, etc. The compiler layer has tons of special cases built into it which had proven very annoying to test properly, and what I really wanted was a syntax for these predicate trees. Clojure to the rescue! In particular, the Clojure reader to the rescue. I wrote an sexp-to-real-object parser (in about a dozen lines of not-very-lispy code), which allowed me to write very dense (one- line) test cases. Several hundred lines of sexp's later, the code was comprehensively tested. I shoved the whole thing into a Junit test (with Clojure code in Strings, in this case) and haven't heard from the compiler layer since. Good times. There are two or three other portions of the code that I'd like to replace with Clojure, especially Spring and its horrible XML language for configuring things, and perhaps Hibernate and its horrible XML language for describing O/R mappings. The Clojure STM would make a bunch of state management easier elsewhere in the app (by forcing it to be explicit), but that's a much larger task for another time. At any rate, the point is that because it's ultimately just a jar file in our maven repository, using Clojure for something else is now ridiculously easy. There's no integration work to do, the build system already supports it, and the operations guys don't have to learn a new language. Clojure is just kind of there. On Oct 14, 4:13 pm, Fogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to work Clojure (at least partially) into my job, but in doing so I wonder how many of you here use it at your own jobs as opposed to relegating it to hobby. -m On Oct 14, 4:13 pm, Fogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to work Clojure (at least partially) into my job, but in doing so I wonder how many of you here use it at your own jobs as opposed to relegating it to hobby. -m --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
