Re: Presentatie over Clojure

2010-02-12 Thread Joost
A Very Simple Example:

(defn list-projects
  [request posts]
  (wrap request :project
   (text :projects)
   (map project-block posts)
   (link-to "/project/edit/" "new")))

That's a top-level view function from a (nearly) production site I'm
working at right now.

Note:

Clean readable code. This doesn't use any particular new or fancy
feature of clojure. All it is pretty much standard LISP with no side
effects. No macros or anything like that. Automatically thread safe.

Uses (map project-block posts) to translate a list of project
descriptions (a seq of nested maps) into a structured display format,
and project-block is simply a function that translates a single
project description into the required format (in this case,
compojure's generator format). Try doing that with a C-style for loop.

If you're presenting to non-functional programmers, I'd concentrate on
the basic and immediately useful stuff: map is one of the most useful
things I can think of - it pops up everywhere. reduce may be cooler,
but you're not going to use it nearly as much.

>From that project: total lines (including whitespace, comments etc):
less than 2000. Total uses of (map) - excluding macros that embed it:
78. That's a map call almost 8% of every line. If I'd had to guess,
I'd say that at least half of my "loops" are done using plain map.

Besides:

new Array arr;
(for i =0; i < list.length; i++)  {
  arr[i] = inputArr[i]+1;
]
return arr;

vs

(map inc inputArr)

And who's going to argue?

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Re: Presentatie over Clojure

2010-02-12 Thread Joop Kiefte
Sorry for the 3rd post, but can someone provide some nice example-code for
functional structures used in real world code?

2010/2/12 Jeff Rose 

> Cool!  This is the most fun I've ever had practicing Dutch :-)
>
> As someone who used to be very skeptical towards functional programming and
> Lisps, I think it would be good to have some examples to show what you mean
> about things being cleaner and simpler in functional Clojure.  I think
> comparing a typical for loop that transforms an array with mapping a
> function over a seq, or something like that, would make for a nice example.
> The other big thing to talk about is immutable values.  Nobody can know what
> this code produces, whether single or multi-threaded, which seems to be the
> heart of the problem with object orientation:
>
> def foo(obj)
>   obj.val = 2
>   obj.do_stuff()
>   return obj.val
> end
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Joop Kiefte  wrote:
>
>> Graag commentaar
>>
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>>
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>>
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