Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-02 Thread Adrian Mowat
@charles yes, I'm more than happy with git - it's really the code browser end 
other features github provides that I'm interested in replacing. I'm not keen 
to get down a git hole either (must remember that term) and with the benefit of 
hindsight I can see my previous post was unhelpful.


@alex I've had some very good feedback from everyone on this so I'm very happy 
to put this discussion to sleep now if everyone else is




Thanks everyone!



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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Charles Harvey III
charlesnhar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't mean to derail this post asking for hosting options. I certainly 
 do not want it to go down a git-hole.
 I have had a good amount of experience with CVS, SVN, Git and Bazaar. Years 
 worth. Usually when you complain about Git the first thing you hear is that 
 I wasn't doing it right or that its a flexible tool and I just have to 
 learn it. The amount of Git vitriol out there must be somewhat justified.
 I just found Bazaar to be really friendly. Commands work like they do in 
 SVN so it is easy to make the move. And I don't see a lot of Bazaar hate 
 out there. Then again, hardly anyone is using it. :)
 Original poster, Adrian, you are using Git and you are happy with it. I 
 don't actually have any private hosting options for you besides setting up 
 an sftp server of your own.
 But that is usually a great idea. You just need a browser/viewer ala 
 viewcvs:
 http://viewgit.fealdia.org/
 https://github.com/toolmantim/bananajour
 http://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
 https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
 https://github.com/chad/gitjour
 Total control of your repository and essentially free - you just pay for 
 hard drives/backups.
 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:37:57 PM UTC-4, Adrian Mowat wrote:

  What were the horrible experiences? I agree that git allows you to make 
 a mess if you want to but then again Unix has rm -Rf and we all learned 
 quickly enough to use it carefully


  
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 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 02:24 PM, Charles Harvey IIIcharles...@gmail.com 
 javascript:, wrote:

 That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences 
 with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well, 
 aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github. 





 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

 Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com writes: 

  You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain. 
  
  Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/ 
  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/) 
  
  Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - 
  whatever. There is web viewer plugin: 
  https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module. 
  
  Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer 
  commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself 
  is just so easy. 

 Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?) 
 from bzr to git. See 

 , 
 | From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) 
 | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move 
 | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel 
 | To: emacs...@gnu.org 
 | Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour 
 ago) 
 | 
 | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in 
 | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not 
 because 
 | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue. 
 | 
 | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is 
 | already moribund.  [...] 
 ` 

 and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel. 

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-02 Thread Jonathan Winandy
I am feeling the same thing about git, while having no problems using it.

I used mercurial before, to me, the command were  simpler, as well as
the model.

For example, a branch can have several heads in mercurial, and it separates
more easily fetch and merge. You don't have a origin/master and your
master, but the master branche and corresponding heads.

Rebase was not a standard command in mercurial and to me that's a good
thing.

So when some say git is like Clojure, for me it's more git is like Scala.
It's ok to program in the language, you then learn all the plumbing part
and start to be efficient in it.

Jon

Le mercredi 2 juillet 2014, Charles Harvey III charlesnhar...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 I didn't mean to derail this post asking for hosting options. I certainly
 do not want it to go down a git-hole.

 I have had a good amount of experience with CVS, SVN, Git and Bazaar.
 Years worth. Usually when you complain about Git the first thing you hear
 is that I wasn't doing it right or that its a flexible tool and I just have
 to learn it. The amount of Git vitriol out there must be somewhat justified.

 I just found Bazaar to be really friendly. Commands work like they do in
 SVN so it is easy to make the move. And I don't see a lot of Bazaar hate
 out there. Then again, hardly anyone is using it. :)

 Original poster, Adrian, you are using Git and you are happy with it. I
 don't actually have any private hosting options for you besides setting up
 an sftp server of your own.

 But that is usually a great idea. You just need a browser/viewer ala
 viewcvs:

 http://viewgit.fealdia.org/
 https://github.com/toolmantim/bananajour
 http://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
 https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
 https://github.com/chad/gitjour

 Total control of your repository and essentially free - you just pay for
 hard drives/backups.



 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:37:57 PM UTC-4, Adrian Mowat wrote:

  What were the horrible experiences? I agree that git allows you to make
 a mess if you want to but then again Unix has rm -Rf and we all learned
 quickly enough to use it carefully



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 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 02:24 PM, Charles Harvey IIIcharles...@gmail.com,
 wrote:

 That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences
 with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well,
 aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github.





 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

 Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com writes:

  You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.
 
  Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/
  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)
 
  Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp)
 -
  whatever. There is web viewer plugin:
  https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module.
 
  Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much
 nicer
  commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself
  is just so easy.

 Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?)
 from bzr to git. See

 ,
 | From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
 | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move
 | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
 | To: emacs...@gnu.org
 | Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour
 ago)
 |
 | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in
 | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not
 because
 | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue.
 |
 | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is
 | already moribund.  [...]
 `

 and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel.

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Charles Harvey III
You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.

Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)

Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - 
whatever. There is web viewer plugin: https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it 
is basically an apache module.

Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer 
commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself is 
just so easy.




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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Charles Harvey III charlesnhar...@gmail.com writes:

 You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.

 Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/
 (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)

 Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) -
 whatever. There is web viewer plugin:
 https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module.

 Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer
 commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself
 is just so easy.

Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?)
from bzr to git. See 

,
| From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
| Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move
| Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
| To: emacs-de...@gnu.org
| Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour ago)
| 
| I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in
| version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because
| I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue.
| 
| The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is
| already moribund.  [...]
`

and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel.

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Charles Harvey III
That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences 
with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well, 
aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github. 





On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

 Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com javascript: writes: 

  You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain. 
  
  Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/ 
  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/) 
  
  Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - 
  whatever. There is web viewer plugin: 
  https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module. 
  
  Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer 
  commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself 
  is just so easy. 

 Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?) 
 from bzr to git. See 

 , 
 | From: e...@thyrsus.com javascript: (Eric S. Raymond) 
 | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move 
 | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel 
 | To: emacs...@gnu.org javascript: 
 | Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour 
 ago) 
 | 
 | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in 
 | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because 
 | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue. 
 | 
 | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is 
 | already moribund.  [...] 
 ` 

 and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel. 

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Andrey Antukh
In my opinion, saying I have problems with it, then, it is bad is very
bad argument. I'm not defending git, I'm only criticizing your arguments.
The only way to save money and pain, is knowing well the tools that you are
using. And git doesn't make any magic.

;)
Andrey



2014-07-01 15:23 GMT+02:00 Charles Harvey III charlesnhar...@gmail.com:

 That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences
 with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well,
 aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github.





 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

 Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com writes:

  You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.
 
  Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/
  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)
 
  Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) -
  whatever. There is web viewer plugin:
  https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module.
 
  Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer
  commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself
  is just so easy.

 Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?)
 from bzr to git. See

 ,
 | From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
 | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move
 | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
 | To: emacs...@gnu.org
 | Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour
 ago)
 |
 | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in
 | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because
 | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue.
 |
 | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is
 | already moribund.  [...]
 `

 and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel.

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Softaddicts
Agree,

we have been using git with private repos in gitolite or gitosis for several 
years 
using cmd line or Eclipse egit.

Git by itself is very flexible and well designed.

A huge improvement over SVN which we were using before.

I need a cheat sheet to track the not so common stuff done via
cmd line but this is the only thing I can criticize about git.
Or it's my bad memory that can't seem to record them :)

Just installed gitlab community edition yesterday and loaded our 
repos in it.

That's nice to have a cute GUI on top of git. This will get around
most of this cmd line weakness and repo management will be easier.


Luc P.

 In my opinion, saying I have problems with it, then, it is bad is very
 bad argument. I'm not defending git, I'm only criticizing your arguments.
 The only way to save money and pain, is knowing well the tools that you are
 using. And git doesn't make any magic.
 
 ;)
 Andrey
 
 
 
 2014-07-01 15:23 GMT+02:00 Charles Harvey III charlesnhar...@gmail.com:
 
  That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences
  with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well,
  aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:
 
  Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com writes:
 
   You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.
  
   Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/
   (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)
  
   Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) -
   whatever. There is web viewer plugin:
   https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Rainer Schuster
Git is like clojure. You have to know your tools in order to do something 
meaningful with it. But you could just use Java to get your job done. So 
its your decision. Don't blame someone/-thing for not fitting your style or 
skill set.

Am Montag, 30. Juni 2014 12:34:56 UTC+2 schrieb Adrian Mowat:

 Hi All,

 Sorry for the off topic thread but my company is looking at alternatives 
 to gihub that are a) hosted internally and b) cheaper (!)

 I was wondering what everyone else is using out there?  The features we 
 use most on github are easy creation and navigation of repos, commit/diff 
 browsing and user/team management facilities

 Many Thanks

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Frank Castellucci
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On Monday, June 30, 2014 6:34:56 AM UTC-4, Adrian Mowat wrote:

 Hi All,

 Sorry for the off topic thread but my company is looking at alternatives 
 to gihub that are a) hosted internally and b) cheaper (!)

 I was wondering what everyone else is using out there?  The features we 
 use most on github are easy creation and navigation of repos, commit/diff 
 browsing and user/team management facilities

 Many Thanks

 Adrian


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Adrian Mowat
What were the horrible experiences? I agree that git allows you to make a mess 
if you want to but then again Unix has rm -Rf and we all learned quickly enough 
to use it carefully






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On Tue, Jul  1, 2014 at 02:24 PM, Charles Harvey IIIcharlesnhar...@gmail.com, 
wrote:

That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences with 
Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well, aside from 
the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github. 





On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:Charles Harvey 
III charles...@gmail.com writes:


 You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.



 Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/

 (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)



 Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) -

 whatever. There is web viewer plugin:

 https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module.



 Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer

 commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself

 is just so easy.


Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?)

from bzr to git. See 


,

| From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)

| Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move

| Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel

| To: emacs...@gnu.org

| Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour ago)

| 

| I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in

| version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because

| I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue.

| 

| The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is

| already moribund.  [...]

`


and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel.


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Alex Miller
Can we take this thread elsewhere now? Let's stay on the Clojures... 
 Thanks...


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-07-01 Thread Charles Harvey III
I didn't mean to derail this post asking for hosting options. I certainly 
do not want it to go down a git-hole.

I have had a good amount of experience with CVS, SVN, Git and Bazaar. Years 
worth. Usually when you complain about Git the first thing you hear is that 
I wasn't doing it right or that its a flexible tool and I just have to 
learn it. The amount of Git vitriol out there must be somewhat justified.

I just found Bazaar to be really friendly. Commands work like they do in 
SVN so it is easy to make the move. And I don't see a lot of Bazaar hate 
out there. Then again, hardly anyone is using it. :)

Original poster, Adrian, you are using Git and you are happy with it. I 
don't actually have any private hosting options for you besides setting up 
an sftp server of your own.

But that is usually a great idea. You just need a browser/viewer ala 
viewcvs:

http://viewgit.fealdia.org/
https://github.com/toolmantim/bananajour
http://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
https://github.com/chad/gitjour

Total control of your repository and essentially free - you just pay for 
hard drives/backups.



On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:37:57 PM UTC-4, Adrian Mowat wrote:

  What were the horrible experiences? I agree that git allows you to make 
 a mess if you want to but then again Unix has rm -Rf and we all learned 
 quickly enough to use it carefully


  
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 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 02:24 PM, Charles Harvey IIIcharles...@gmail.com 
 javascript:, wrote:

 That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences 
 with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well, 
 aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github. 





 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:58:32 AM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

 Charles Harvey III charles...@gmail.com writes: 

  You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain. 
  
  Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/ 
  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/) 
  
  Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - 
  whatever. There is web viewer plugin: 
  https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module. 
  
  Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer 
  commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself 
  is just so easy. 

 Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?) 
 from bzr to git. See 

 , 
 | From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) 
 | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move 
 | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel 
 | To: emacs...@gnu.org 
 | Date: Thu,  2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour 
 ago) 
 | 
 | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in 
 | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not 
 because 
 | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue. 
 | 
 | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is 
 | already moribund.  [...] 
 ` 

 and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel. 

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Leonardo Borges
I can't speak for price but I've worked in a couple of clients who used
Stash [1], which is Atlassian's internal version of Bitbucket. I had no
issues while using that.

[1]: https://www.atlassian.com/software/stash
[2]: https://bitbucket.org/

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Di Xu
gitlab[1]?

​[1]​ https://about.gitlab.com/


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Linus Ericsson
gitolite? I think we used it on one of my jobs.

https://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite

/Linus

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 ​[1]​ https://about.gitlab.com/


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread François Rey
Tuleap http://www.tuleap.org/ is fully open source and integrates 
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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Andrey Antukh
We are using gitlab and it's works very well! ;)

Andrey


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Adrian Mowat
Lots of great suggestions here!  Thanks guys


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 We are using gitlab and it's works very well! ;)

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Torsten Uhlmann
We successfully used http://assembla.com in the past.



2014-06-30 13:03 GMT+02:00 Di Xu xudi...@gmail.com:

 gitlab[1]?

 ​[1]​ https://about.gitlab.com/


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Mikhail Kryshen
I would recommend Fossil (http://fossil-scm.org/) — a distributed
version control system with integrated distributed bug tracker, wiki and
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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Torsten Uhlmann
Assembla also offers a private package which you can download and run on
your own machines:

http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/10151/Introducing-Private-Assembla-your-own-Assembla-server-in-Download-Cloud-and-Managed-packages.aspx


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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread François Rey

On 30/06/14 13:10, Torsten Uhlmann wrote:

We successfully used http://assembla.com in the past.

Except this cannot be hosted internally as requested by the OP...

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Phang Mulianto
Hi,

Can try Tracscm   [ *trac*.edgewall.org/ ]

or gitlab is good, the interface is clean, but it runs on java




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 Assembla also offers a private package which you can download and run on
 your own machines:


 http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/10151/Introducing-Private-Assembla-your-own-Assembla-server-in-Download-Cloud-and-Managed-packages.aspx


 2014-06-30 17:07 GMT+02:00 Mikhail Kryshen mikh...@kryshen.net:

 I would recommend Fossil (http://fossil-scm.org/) — a distributed
 version control system with integrated distributed bug tracker, wiki and
 blog, all of which are accessed through a built-in web server.

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Andrey Antukh
2014-06-30 19:17 GMT+02:00 Phang Mulianto braveh...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Can try Tracscm   [ *trac*.edgewall.org/ ]

 or gitlab is good, the interface is clean, but it runs on java


As far as I know gitlab is written in ruby and not in java.

And it has good install scripts that makes all had work of configure it,
very easy.





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 wrote:

 Assembla also offers a private package which you can download and run on
 your own machines:


 http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/10151/Introducing-Private-Assembla-your-own-Assembla-server-in-Download-Cloud-and-Managed-packages.aspx


 2014-06-30 17:07 GMT+02:00 Mikhail Kryshen mikh...@kryshen.net:

 I would recommend Fossil (http://fossil-scm.org/) — a distributed
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 blog, all of which are accessed through a built-in web server.

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Rainer Schuster
We are using http://gitblit.com (written in Java)The new release finally 
supports ssh!

Am Montag, 30. Juni 2014 20:14:42 UTC+2 schrieb Andrey Antukh:



 2014-06-30 19:17 GMT+02:00 Phang Mulianto brav...@gmail.com javascript:
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 Hi,

 Can try Tracscm   [ *trac*.edgewall.org/ ]

 or gitlab is good, the interface is clean, but it runs on java


 As far as I know gitlab is written in ruby and not in java.

 And it has good install scripts that makes all had work of configure it, 
 very easy. 

  



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 javascript: wrote:

 Assembla also offers a private package which you can download and run on 
 your own machines: 
  

 http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/10151/Introducing-Private-Assembla-your-own-Assembla-server-in-Download-Cloud-and-Managed-packages.aspx


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 I would recommend Fossil (http://fossil-scm.org/) — a distributed
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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread Jonathan Abbey
We've been using GitLab in our laboratory for some time now, and I 
recommend it very highly indeed.  Getting it set up was a bit of a pain 
because they did not have RedHat packages when we first installed it, and 
we were setting it up on a server that did not have Internet access. 
installation depends on having access to a RubyGems mirror, but once we got 
that worked out it's been smooth sailing.  GitLab's architecture is very 
very nicely put together.  They've got a directory that contains all of the 
Git repos, a 'gitlab-shell' facility for manipulating and browsing the 
repos, and scripts for performing backups and restores of both the Git 
repositories and the PostgreSQL database tables.  They've got hooks for 
connecting to external build servers and bug tracking systems, and a full 
web API for accessing the system.  And, of course, they've got ssh key 
support for high performance Git operations over ssh in addition to over 
https. They're also very good with their development and release cycle, 
with a new release coming out like clockwork on the 22nd of the month.

So.. yeah.  Very highly recommended.

  

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Re: OT: Github Alternatives

2014-06-30 Thread blake
FWIW, TurnKey has a gitlab appliance that has worked pretty well for me.


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 We've been using GitLab in our laboratory for some time now, and I
 recommend it very highly indeed.  Getting it set up was a bit of a pain
 because they did not have RedHat packages when we first installed it, and
 we were setting it up on a server that did not have Internet access.
 installation depends on having access to a RubyGems mirror, but once we got
 that worked out it's been smooth sailing.  GitLab's architecture is very
 very nicely put together.  They've got a directory that contains all of the
 Git repos, a 'gitlab-shell' facility for manipulating and browsing the
 repos, and scripts for performing backups and restores of both the Git
 repositories and the PostgreSQL database tables.  They've got hooks for
 connecting to external build servers and bug tracking systems, and a full
 web API for accessing the system.  And, of course, they've got ssh key
 support for high performance Git operations over ssh in addition to over
 https. They're also very good with their development and release cycle,
 with a new release coming out like clockwork on the 22nd of the month.

 So.. yeah.  Very highly recommended.

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