Re: Tentacles; Going Forward

2017-02-15 Thread Matthew Boston
Alan,

I haven't thought much about the new GraphQL endpiont. But I imagine, once 
GitHub releases it, it's currently only early-access, we can think about 
how to add it to tentacles.

Maybe I'll open a WIP PR on a branch and start trying some things out.

Cheers,

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 5:01:09 PM UTC-7, Alan Moore wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> +1 everything Chas said. #RIPRaynes
>
> I do have a question about tentacles more generally. Given GitHub's move 
> to GraphQL, how do you see this being supported (or not?) in this library 
> going forwards?
>
> Alan
>
>

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Re: Tentacles; Going Forward

2017-02-14 Thread Alan Moore
Matthew,

+1 everything Chas said. #RIPRaynes

I do have a question about tentacles more generally. Given GitHub's move to 
GraphQL, how do you see this being supported (or not?) in this library 
going forwards?

Alan

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Re: Tentacles; Going Forward

2017-02-08 Thread Chas Emerick
I only became aware of this conversation yesterday; hopefully no one was 
looking for my reply earlier…

Anthony was a friend, but our project activity was quite separate. I think 
we had a couple of PRs on each other's projects, but that's about it. I 
don't think I have any particular authority in this area, either. In any 
case, I don't have any bandwidth atm for increasing my involvement in 
general-purpose OSS stuff.

I'd suggest that anyone with an important dependency on one of Anthony's 
projects push them forward independently. At least, don't wait for or rely 
upon other volunteers to coordinate these sorts of things. If there end up 
being multiple forks, etc., that'll work out over time. Especially if you 
represent a ~trusted organization (CircleCI being a reasonable example), 
and are accommodating of others' use cases within reason (i.e. act like a 
sane maintainer), then I suspect others will follow your lead.

The clojars/maven coordinate question is stickier. The clojars folks might 
have general policy, and maybe they've addressed this particular situation 
elsewhere. But, this is an excellent object lesson in how the 
organization/project-name convention is a *good thing*, in contrast to 
effectively single-level namespace coordinates like tentacles/tentacles. 
IMO, a com.circleci/tentacles artifact in clojars would be a far better 
direction; it puts multiple forks (if they end up being necessary) on equal 
footing, and properly reflects the divergence in maintenance.

Thanks for picking up where Anthony left off,

- Chas

On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-5, Alex Miller wrote:
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> I have no authority to speak on this, but I think it would be nice to see 
> a consensus fork managed by some one or ones with a vested interest in it. 
> (I also have used tentacles off and on.)
>
> Maybe another option would be to create a github org of some people that 
> can act as admins. I'd nominate Chas as someone to act in that capacity 
> given his relationship with raynes.
>

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Tentacles; Going Forward

2017-01-26 Thread Alex Miller
I have no authority to speak on this, but I think it would be nice to see a 
consensus fork managed by some one or ones with a vested interest in it. (I 
also have used tentacles off and on.)

Maybe another option would be to create a github org of some people that can 
act as admins. I'd nominate Chas as someone to act in that capacity given his 
relationship with raynes.

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Tentacles; Going Forward

2017-01-26 Thread Matthew Boston
First of, I want to say that I was deeply saddened to hear about the 
passing of Anthony Grimes. He had a tremendous impact on all of us. Anthony 
will be missed, and the Clojure community will not be the same without him.

The reason for this letter is to start a discussion regarding tentacles, an 
OSS library of Anthony's for working with the GitHub API. And an effort to 
let the legacy of Anthony live on.

We, CircleCI, use this library extensively; our entire business is built 
around the use of tentacles. We have come to a point where we want new 
features added to this library but are in a bit of a pickle. Sure, we could 
simply fork and release a new version as circleci/tentacles. Due to groupId 
restrictions of maven artifacts, we cannot release a version of 
tentacles/tentacles to clojars since we do not belong to the 'tentacles' 
group.

But this feels wrong without first consulting the community. We want 
tentacles, and the legacy of Anthony, to live on. Our fear of a fork is 
that there may be many forks, which will eventually lead to a diluted field 
of forks. This leads to the potential of diminishing the efforts Anthony 
put into making a fantastic piece of software.

So, I want to open a discussion to the community, as to how we, the 
community, should proceed.

Cheers,

Matthew Boston

#RIPRaynes

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