[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-06-28 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
That's less than I expected, really. :)

(And some of it really random. From coreutils, we loose `pinky` but not 
`base32` (which isn't in EL7 and I'd never heard of... but that's another 
story.)

I'd really love to see a bug associated with each one of those `rm`s in 
`%post`. It seems like we could solve most of it with better packaging over 
time, and then get to the point where we _could_ do the additive thing.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
theoretically yes, but we do some stuff to the minimal image to reduce the 
image size that we'd then have to undo. I don't think it really makes sense. 
You can see for yourself: [minimal 
kickstart](https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/f26/f/fedora-docker-base-minimal.ks)
 [non-minimal 
kickstart](https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/f26/f/fedora-docker-base.ks).
 Note that both of these *include* 
[docker-common.ks](https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/f26/f/fedora-docker-common.ks).
 
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus

jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
Theoretically, yes.  I'd let @maxamillion comment on whether that's practical.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-06-28 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
Is it possible to make the minimal image the base of the regular image? That 
seems ideal from a testing perspective (not to mention explosion of streams).

I've had in the back of my mind for a while the idea of fedora-minimal and 
fedora (regular) like that, and then maybe a fedora-batteries image above that, 
which includes packages not in the fedora image but common to some threshold of 
our official layered images.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus

jberkus reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are 
following:
``
A "minimal" build of the base container image exists, but isn't official or 
generally available from the repository.  We need this minimal image for a few 
reasons:

* users care about container size from some use-cases (think 
super-micro-services and serverless)
* arguably a more minimal container is easier to secure
* other linux distros offer some kind of small base image
* buildah, now in alpha, *really* benefits from a minimal base image

For this to succeed, we'd want the following base images as part of 
registry.fedoraproject.org:

* fedora-minimal:25
* fedora-minimal:26
* fedora-minima:latest

Given that the minimal image will differ less per release version (since it has 
less plubming), it would be perfectly acceptable to have a very short 
expiration window on older release versions, or only supporting the current 
Fedora release.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #283: please include documentation for run label inside Fedora container guidelines

2017-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus

jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
The guidelines link to the official Atomic CLI documentation.  Is there a 
specific link to in-depth RUN docs we can use?  This needs to be a web link, 
not a man page.
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Atomic WG Meeting Minutes 2017-06-28

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe


summary: 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-28/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-28-17.01.html
full log: 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-28/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-28-17.01.log.html

===
#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_atomic_wg
===


Meeting started by dustymabe at 17:01:17 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-28/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-28-17.01.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* roll call  (dustymabe, 17:01:23)

* list of people to ping for meetings  (dustymabe, 17:07:04)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/pull-request/288#   (dustymabe,
17:07:13)

* previous meeting action items  (dustymabe, 17:10:51)
  * ACTION: dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
(dustymabe, 17:11:39)
  * LINK:

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_atomic_wg/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-21-17.03.log.html
(dustymabe, 17:14:22)
  * ACTION: maxamillion to look at logs from last meeting and add
summary of our discussion to ticket
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284  (dustymabe, 17:14:52)
  * PRD has been approved  (gholms, 17:16:04)
  * Matching Fedora Server's PRD format was helpful  (gholms, 17:16:39)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issues?status=Open=meeting
(dustymabe, 17:17:12)
  * ACTION: jberkus to create new issues, specs for
docs.projectatomic.io publication  (dustymabe, 17:18:55)

* clarify policy on atomic host support for older Fedora "number"
  releases  (dustymabe, 17:20:07)
  * https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/228  (dustymabe, 17:20:11)
  * the fedora magazine post has landed
https://fedoramagazine.org/upcoming-fedora-atomic-lifecycle-changes/
(dustymabe, 17:20:31)

* fedimg: don't use 'builder' instance for uploading AMIs  (dustymabe,
  17:22:54)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/269   (dustymabe, 17:23:00)
  * this will most likely wait until after fedora 26 release because we
are now in freeze  (dustymabe, 17:23:29)

* Set architecture label in the base container image  (dustymabe,
  17:26:28)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/276   (dustymabe, 17:26:35)

* Figure out comprehensive strategy for atomic host container storage
  (dustymabe, 17:28:45)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/281   (dustymabe, 17:29:07)
  * AGREED: changing fedora 27 and beyond to default to overlayfs on the
root partition will help us simplify our storage setup and align
better with other fedora variants. This seems like a reasonable
change to make assuming that overlayfs proves stable for the f26
cycle.  (dustymabe, 17:41:27)

* Atomic Host images omit many common locales that all other flavors
  include  (dustymabe, 17:41:38)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/282   (dustymabe, 17:41:45)
  * ACTION: maxamillion roshi to come up with guidelines for meeting
quorum for the atomic working group  (dustymabe, 17:44:14)

* Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes
  (dustymabe, 17:44:56)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/287   (dustymabe, 17:45:14)

* open floor  (dustymabe, 17:49:50)
  * Work continues on fixing EC2 image visibility, as copied images need
their permissions changed  (gholms, 17:53:06)
  * if you haven't yet tried out minishift, you should check it out
https://www.openshift.org/minishift/  (dustymabe, 17:54:15)

Meeting ended at 17:58:46 UTC.




Action Items

* dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
* maxamillion to look at logs from last meeting and add summary of our
  discussion to ticket https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284
* jberkus to create new issues, specs for docs.projectatomic.io
  publication
* maxamillion roshi to come up with guidelines for meeting quorum for
  the atomic working group




Action Items, by person
---
* dustymabe
  * dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
* jberkus
  * jberkus to create new issues, specs for docs.projectatomic.io
publication
* maxamillion
  * maxamillion to look at logs from last meeting and add summary of our
discussion to ticket https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284
  * maxamillion roshi to come up with guidelines for meeting quorum for
the atomic working group
* roshi
  * maxamillion roshi to come up with guidelines for meeting quorum for
the atomic working group
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
---
* dustymabe (156)
* roshi (24)
* maxamillion (24)
* gholms (22)
* zodbot (20)
* jberkus (18)
* kushal (13)
* yzhang (12)
* sayan (11)
* gbraad_ (9)
* suiwenfeng (7)
* DimGR (7)
* walters (2)
* miabbott (1)
* rubao (1)
* nzwulfin (1)
* jzb (1)




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Atomic WG Meeting Minutes 2017-06-21

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe


summary: 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_atomic_wg/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-21-17.03.html
full log: 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_atomic_wg/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-21-17.03.log.html

===
#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_atomic_wg
===


Meeting started by dustymabe at 17:03:19 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-21/fedora_atomic_wg.2017-06-21-17.03.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* roll call  (dustymabe, 17:03:28)

* Fedora OSBS RFE: install go-md2man to buildroot image  (dustymabe,
  17:06:20)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284   (dustymabe, 17:06:28)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/256   (dustymabe, 17:10:56)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/256#comment-436537
(dustymabe, 17:11:31)
  * ACTION: maxamillion to add summary to ticket
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284  (dustymabe, 17:17:11)

* action items from last meeting  (dustymabe, 17:17:28)
  * ACTION: dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
(dustymabe, 17:18:18)
  * ACTION: jberkus to update wg on final approval of PRD  (dustymabe,
17:18:38)
  * ACTION: jberkus to create new issues, specs for
docs.projectatomic.io publication  (dustymabe, 17:18:48)
  * dustymabe did create the SIG page for the wiki
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Atomic_WG  (dustymabe, 17:19:39)
  * maxamillion updated the container guidelines to enforce ENV and
label for https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/277  (dustymabe,
17:19:57)

* Atomic Host images omit many common locales that all other flavors
  include  (dustymabe, 17:21:12)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/282   (dustymabe, 17:21:20)

* talk/workshop proposals for Flock  (dustymabe, 17:23:36)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/279   (dustymabe, 17:23:40)

* Set architecture label in the base container image  (dustymabe,
  17:25:34)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/276   (dustymabe, 17:25:42)

* fedimg: don't use 'builder' instance for uploading AMIs  (dustymabe,
  17:37:29)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/269   (dustymabe, 17:37:34)

* clarify policy on atomic host support for older Fedora "number"
  releases  (dustymabe, 17:38:39)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/228   (dustymabe, 17:38:53)

* open floor  (dustymabe, 17:40:34)
  * testday went well, no notable issues found. Good work!  (roshi,
17:43:28)

Meeting ended at 17:50:02 UTC.




Action Items

* maxamillion to add summary to ticket
  https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284
* dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
* jberkus to update wg on final approval of PRD
* jberkus to create new issues, specs for docs.projectatomic.io
  publication




Action Items, by person
---
* dustymabe
  * dustymabe to propose a VFAD for wiki and docs discussion
* maxamillion
  * maxamillion to add summary to ticket
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/284
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * jberkus to update wg on final approval of PRD
  * jberkus to create new issues, specs for docs.projectatomic.io
publication




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* dustymabe (112)
* maxamillion (34)
* roshi (22)
* zodbot (16)
* jbrooks (6)
* jds2001 (5)
* sayan (2)
* dgilmore (2)
* miabbott (1)
* nirik (1)
* mnguyen (1)
* rubao (1)
* ksinny (1)




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[atomic-wg] Issue #289: Investigating the possibility to have an Atomic Host LiveCD

2017-06-28 Thread 吉拉德

gbraad reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are 
following:
``
At the moment we run a CentOS-based livecd to run our VM environment, but we 
would really like to target an Atomic Host. I have been looking into generating 
an image using the kickstart at https://github.com/gbraad/minishift-atomic-iso/.

``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #281: Figure out comprehensive strategy for atomic host container storage

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
Discussed in the atomic working group meeting today:

*changing fedora 27 and beyond to default to overlayfs on the root partition 
will help us simplify our storage setup and align better with other fedora 
variants. This seems like a reasonable change to make assuming that overlayfs 
proves stable for the f26 cycle.*
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #228: clarify policy on atomic host support for older Fedora "number" releases

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe

The status of the issue: `clarify policy on atomic host support for older 
Fedora "number" releases` of project: `atomic-wg` has been updated to: Closed 
as Fixed by dustymabe.

https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/228
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[atomic-wg] Issue #266: rpmostree_compose Ansible module

2017-06-28 Thread 吉拉德

gbraad added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
Still in dev?
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #228: clarify policy on atomic host support for older Fedora "number" releases

2017-06-28 Thread Dusty Mabe

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
fed mag post here: 
https://fedoramagazine.org/upcoming-fedora-atomic-lifecycle-changes/

``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #287: Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes

2017-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus

jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
@sjenning well, we have to repackage based on Fedora or centOS base images with 
each Kubeadm release, so that's some ongoing work.  There's also a bunch of 
other config stuff which doesn't currently work "out of the box" and would be 
nice to make work.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #287: Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes

2017-06-28 Thread suiwenfeng

suiwenfeng added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
I am interested in kubernetes, please let me in.
``

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