[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus

jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@fkluknav  all of the buildah documentation so far has worked with base images, 
I assumed that a base image was required.

Apparently, according to @dwalsh, a base image is NOT required?  Or we already 
have a base image called "scratch" which has just glibc and nothing else?
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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

2017-07-03 Thread dusty
Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2017-07-05 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC
   At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup


Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1999/

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[atomic-wg] Issue #287: Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes

2017-07-03 Thread Dimitris Theoharis

dimtheo added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@dustymabe @jberkus i can deploy latest kube on fedora atomics and watch out 
for bugs
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Re: [atomic-wg] Issue #287: Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes

2017-07-03 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap)
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Dusty Mabe  wrote:
>
> dustymabe reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are 
> following:
> ``
> We're trying to balance the pros/cons of trying to have both kubernetes and 
> origin in Fedora. We're trying to find a group of people interested in 
> helping us maintain kubernetes within Fedora. This includes maintaining the 
> rpm, fielding bug reports, making sure docs stay up to date, and trying to 
> make sure upgrades work.
>
> From our preliminary discussion i know a few people:
>
> - @strigazi
> - @dimtheo
> - @jasonbrooks
> - @jberkus
>
> Can we get other people who are interested in helping out add their name to 
> this issue?
>
>
> ``
>
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I am also interested.

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[atomic-wg] Issue #287: Identify group of people interested in maintaining kubernetes

2017-07-03 Thread Spyros Trigazis

strigazi added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@jberkus @dustymabe 
Can we have a list of working items to get things going?

1.7 is out, so we can start working on it. I could give @jchaloup a hand. 
Especially on testing. 

If we put kube 1.7 in updates testing would be nice.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #290: Make fedora-minimal base image generally available

2017-07-03 Thread Frantisek Kluknavsky

fkluknav added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> Because you can't run a container without a base image.  You still need a 
> stripped-down userspace with glibc, if nothing else.
> The point of the container is as a unit of delivery, not as a work 
> environment.  That is, I'm building the contianer in order to deploy it to a 
> cloud, not so that I can use it to build other things.  I don't need DNF in 
> the container, I need DNF inorder to install things into the container.  Once 
> those things are installed, I don't want DNF in the container.  Same with 
> gcc, make, git, etc.
> Is this getting close to unikernels?  Yep.  And that's a good thing.  We need 
> to stop thinking of containers like they're VMs.   They are not.  Containers 
> are statically linked binaries, and just like th statically linked binaries 
> of yore, it's critically important to reduce our dependencies.

@jberkus : I agree fully with last 2 paragraphs but still do not get the first. 
Why do you need to build an image using a container? Even if you want to do 
that, because it is cool to do everything in containers, you still do not need 
a "base" image. Just make a tarball from scratch by any means you want - for 
example with buildah like in the previous post from dwalsh. As I understand it, 
the concept of a base image comes from the concept of containers as work 
environment - the very thing you want to avoid. Where is my understanding wrong?
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