Re: Why I'm excited about Atomic for Fedora

2015-10-27 Thread Pete Travis
On Oct 27, 2015 7:24 PM, "Bruce Harrison" 
wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> Although I just downloaded the Fedora Cloud, I want to test it and, if it
is what I am looking for, let some of my customers who live on DeskTone,
give this a test drive from a fast thumb drive on a laptop or even a
modified Chromebook. These people are attorneys and real estate
professionals that need the dependability of the cloud without Redmond
controlling how they use the vehicle to get there - something lean and mean.
>
> If the team can get it smaller and it can access DeskTone, the universe
may expand more quickly.
>
> Bruce
>
>

You have me a little confused, Bruce.  Fedora Cloud is an image intended to
run in the cloud, to *build* services like DeskTone.  You don't run it on
bare metal, at least not without a lot of work - at which point, you may as
well start with something different.  Fedora might do what you're looking
for - but what is that?

--Pete
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Re: Fedora Cloud Docs

2015-03-24 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 24, 2015 11:38 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 03/24/2015 01:01 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
 
  If there's a particular cloud-related topic you'd like to write about --
  go write!  And then we can worry about the tooling, once there's some
  content to work with.

 I agree...ish. If Kushal, myself, mattdm, and jbrooks (for example) are
 collaborating on a document, we really need a single format to target.

 Best,

 jzb
 --


I was actually polling about preferred markup format, because I am writing
tools, but Jared is right:  don't let things like my misadventures with
python hold you back!  Start now,  don't worry about formats, docs will
handle the business of publishing and converting.

--Pete
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Re: Fedora Cloud Docs

2015-03-19 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 19, 2015 6:21 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 19/03/15, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
  On 03/19/2015 01:14 AM, Pete Travis wrote:
   So, as I'm working on some tooling for a new Fedora Docs site, I'd
like
   to know what would get *you* into writing about Fedora Cloud.  In the
   most direct sense, it's a question about markup and delivery, ie a
   collection of markdown or reStructuredText files in a git repo.  In a
   broad sense, anything along the lines of I would write docs for using
   Fedora Cloud, if... would be great.
 
  Most of the writing I do is in Markdown. Git + Markdown would be optimal
  as far as I'm concerned.
 
  If a majority of folks who'll contribute are partial to some other
  flavor of light markup, I can go with whatever, but would prefer *not*
  Docbook or MediaWiki. Let's please do something with git to make life
  much easier.
 
 Few advantages of using Sphinx and rst:

 1. Syntax is almost like markdown.
 2. It has more features targeted towards devels.
 3. If we maintain in a public git repo, we can use a service like
 readthedocs.org to build and publish the docs, we can have it in the way
 of https://docs.djangoproject.com
 4. Many developers in the infra and apps teams are Python users, so they
 know/use reStructuredText already.

 Kushal
 --
 Fedora Cloud Engineer
 CPython Core Developer
 Director @ Python Software Foundation
 http://kushaldas.in
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So we're on the same page, some context:  I am working on building a
backend using buildbot that we can feed arbitrary git repos containing docs
written in $format and built with $tool-for-format.  The goal is to have
all the Fedora documentation in one well organized place with little to no
contributor overhead in the process of turning markup into website.

Of course, participation is welcome and encouraged on the tooling side; but
I want it to be clear that it should not  be a *requirement* for you to
care about the tooling.  If you are going to write, you should be able to
focus on the writing.

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Fedora Cloud Docs

2015-03-18 Thread Pete Travis
Hey cloud team,

I think we need some cloud docs.  Fedora has a lot to offer in the cloud
area, and I'm sure that those engaged in the space are excited that
Fedora has what they are looking for.  The uninitiated, on the other
hand, are looking for what Fedora has, and we can do better to
demonstrate that.

We have a cloud guide,
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/cloud-guide.git/ .  It covers
some basics, ie euca2ools, but never really made it out of draft state,
and your work has left it far behind.  We don't have anyone on the Docs
team fully engaged to track the cloud space, or anyone on the cloud team
engaged to maintain that guide.  Also, it's written in docbook, and a
lot of folks aren't into that.

So, as I'm working on some tooling for a new Fedora Docs site, I'd like
to know what would get *you* into writing about Fedora Cloud.  In the
most direct sense, it's a question about markup and delivery, ie a
collection of markdown or reStructuredText files in a git repo.  In a
broad sense, anything along the lines of I would write docs for using
Fedora Cloud, if... would be great.

Hopefully, we can find some balance between cloud and writing expertise
and deliver something exciting.  At this point, I'm focusing on enabling
you; let's work that out.

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-- Pete Travis
 - Fedora Docs Project Leader
 - 'randomuser' on freenode
 - immanet...@fedoraproject.org


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Re: help wanted! please review ec2 quickstart docs

2014-03-13 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 13, 2014 3:26 PM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:

 Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way
into the Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
perspective of the Cloud SIG?


 I really should have checked the Cloud Guide a bit closer before saying
that -- it seems this page is pretty much a copy/paste from the Amazon EC2
section of the Cloud Guide.  And when I went to check to see who had
written that section of the Cloud Guide, I found that it was mostly me :-/

 That still begs the question though -- does anybody else but me care
about the Cloud Guide, or have any interest in working on it with me?

 --
 Jared Smith


I've poked at it in relatively recent history, and maybe even corrected the
source for some of the things you've pointed out (or at least made notes :)

Definitely something I'm interested in working on, but time and the
experience gap have combined forces against me.

-- Pete
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