[atomic-wg] Issue #196: moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25

[Dusty Mabe]

The status of the issue: `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25` of project: 
`atomic-wg` has been updated to: Closed as Wontfix by dustymabe.

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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Dusty Mabe]

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@runcom any chance of making a 1.13 for docker-latest for f25? I think we 
pretty much decided against going to 1.13 for now. 
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Spyros Trigazis]

strigazi added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
The docker and docker-latest are both at docker 1.12.6, could it be docker at 
1.12.6 and docker latest at 1.13 ?
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Daniel J Walsh]

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Sure, our teams policy is that we don't update docker package until k8s and 
OpenShift support it.  But it is likely that this would change during the 13 
months of a Fedora release.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Jason Brooks]

jasonbrooks added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Will docker already be at 1.14 by the time f26 ships? I say it's better to test 
thoroughly in updates-testing and then push to stable when it's ready than 
flatly ban major docker updates within a Fedora release.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Matthew Miller]

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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The Fedora approach would be to create a 
[Copr](https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/).
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Daniel J Walsh]

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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I don't believe Fedora has such a capability.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Thomas Mueller]

vinzentm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@dwalsh reading about updates-testing definition: isn't this thought to test 
updates which will land in base or updates? Is this also the channel to give 
preview versions of a next release?

I much like debians backports concept. where selected next release packages are 
backported to the current release and users can opt-in to use a single package.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Daniel J Walsh]

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@vinzentm I tend to agree with you the thought was to put it in 
updates-testing, without ever releasing it so is is easy to get a hold of for 
those that want it.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Dusty Mabe]

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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-1 on docker 1.13 for now: https://twitter.com/jbeda/status/826969113801093121
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Daniel J Walsh]

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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None have been created yet.  I will attempt to get one built as soon as we have 
docker-1.13 in updates-testing.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Spyros Trigazis]

strigazi added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I think we should get docker-1.13 into Rawhide right away.  The problem with 
> putting it into Fedora 25 is it has not been fully vetted with OpenShift and 
> Kubernetes yet.  I don't believe we should swap out the docker version their 
> until OpenShift is ready.
> Putting it into updates-testing and leaving it there until OpenShift says it 
> is ready to consume it the best option.  I think we should also create a 
> system container for Fedora 25 with the docker-1.13 runtime in it which would 
> allow Fedora Atomic Host users to consume it.  We really need to start 
> getting some play time with system containers, and this is probably the best 
> time.
> @gscrivano Has done some nice work on this, and it is time to get it exposed.

Any pointers to docker-1.13 in system container?
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Re: [atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Antonio Murdaca]

On Jan 18, 2017 22:46, "Dusty Mabe"  wrote:


dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I think we should get docker-1.13 into Rawhide right away.


Yup, I'm going to build it there ASAP.


agree on this point. The discussion was meant to target f25.
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Dusty Mabe]

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I think we should get docker-1.13 into Rawhide right away. 

agree on this point. The discussion was meant to target f25. 
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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Daniel J Walsh]

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
I think we should get docker-1.13 into Rawhide right away.  The problem with 
putting it into Fedora 25 is it has not been fully vetted with OpenShift and 
Kubernetes yet.  I don't believe we should swap out the docker version their 
until OpenShift is ready.

Putting it into updates-testing and leaving it there until OpenShift says it is 
ready to consume it the best option.  I think we should also create a system 
container for Fedora 25 with the docker-1.13 runtime in it which would allow 
Fedora Atomic Host users to consume it.  We really need to start getting some 
play time with system containers, and this is probably the best time.

@gscrivano Has done some nice work on this, and it is time to get it exposed.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #196 `moving to docker 1.13 in Fedora 25`

[Dusty Mabe]

dustymabe reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are 
following:
``

In the meeting today @runcom brought up the topic of:

- removing docker-latest in Fedora (mail thread on that 
[here](https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic-devel/2017-January/msg00037.html))
- moving to docker 1.13 (just released) in Fedora 25

There are some concerns over moving to docker 1.13 but we believe that if we 
are able to qualify it enough it would be beneficial to go to the latest 
version so that @runcom doesn't have to manage so many versions of docker. The 
current proposal is:

- first, wait 4 weeks
- let some bugs from initial release work itself out
- many of us are traveling over the next few weeks anyway so this won't hurt
- 2nd, put out update to updates-testing and wait some time for thorough tests 
to be conducted on the testing ostree.
- If there are big issues with 1.13 that don't have a ready fix 
(performance issues, complicated issues that don't have fixes) then we can 
unpush 1.13 from updates-testing and put out security fixes etc for 1.12. We'd 
like to not have to unpush if possible though. 

Another thing that might be useful is a condensed list of changes from 1.12 to 
1.13. @runcom, could you provide us with that information? 


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