Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-09-08T12:30:23, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Folks, Fabio, thanks for organizing this and getting the ball rolling. And again sorry for being late to said game; I was busy elsewhere. However, it seems that the idea for such a HA Summit in Brno/Feb 2015 hasn't exactly fallen on fertile grounds, even with the suggested user/client day. (Or if there was a lot of feedback, it wasn't public.) I wonder why that is, and if/how we can make this more attractive? Frankly, as might have been obvious ;-), for me the venue is an issue. It's not easy to reach, and I'm theoretically fairly close in Germany already. I wonder if we could increase participation with a virtual meeting (on either those dates or another), similar to what the Ceph Developer Summit does? Those appear really productive and make it possible for a wide range of interested parties from all over the world to attend, regardless of travel times, or even just attend select sessions (that would otherwise make it hard to justify travel expenses time off). Alternatively, would a relocation to a more connected venue help, such as Vienna xor Prague? I'd love to get some more feedback from the community. As Fabio put it, yes, I *can* suck it up and go to Brno if that's where everyone goes to play ;-), but I'd also prefer to have a broader participation. Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 11/24/2014 3:39 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2014-09-08T12:30:23, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Folks, Fabio, thanks for organizing this and getting the ball rolling. And again sorry for being late to said game; I was busy elsewhere. However, it seems that the idea for such a HA Summit in Brno/Feb 2015 hasn't exactly fallen on fertile grounds, even with the suggested user/client day. (Or if there was a lot of feedback, it wasn't public.) I wonder why that is, and if/how we can make this more attractive? Frankly, as might have been obvious ;-), for me the venue is an issue. It's not easy to reach, and I'm theoretically fairly close in Germany already. I wonder if we could increase participation with a virtual meeting (on either those dates or another), similar to what the Ceph Developer Summit does? Those appear really productive and make it possible for a wide range of interested parties from all over the world to attend, regardless of travel times, or even just attend select sessions (that would otherwise make it hard to justify travel expenses time off). Alternatively, would a relocation to a more connected venue help, such as Vienna xor Prague? I'd love to get some more feedback from the community. I agree. some feedback would be useful. As Fabio put it, yes, I *can* suck it up and go to Brno if that's where everyone goes to play ;-), but I'd also prefer to have a broader participation. dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. Fabio
Re: [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 24/11/14 09:54 AM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: On 11/24/2014 3:39 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2014-09-08T12:30:23, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Folks, Fabio, thanks for organizing this and getting the ball rolling. And again sorry for being late to said game; I was busy elsewhere. However, it seems that the idea for such a HA Summit in Brno/Feb 2015 hasn't exactly fallen on fertile grounds, even with the suggested user/client day. (Or if there was a lot of feedback, it wasn't public.) I wonder why that is, and if/how we can make this more attractive? I suspect a lot of it is that, given people's busy schedules, February seems far away. Also, I wonder how much discussion has happened outside of these lists. Is it really that there hasn't been much feedback? Fabio started this ball rolling, so I would be interested to hear what he's heard. Frankly, as might have been obvious ;-), for me the venue is an issue. It's not easy to reach, and I'm theoretically fairly close in Germany already. I wonder if we could increase participation with a virtual meeting (on either those dates or another), similar to what the Ceph Developer Summit does? Requested feedback given; Virtual meetings are never as good, and I really don't like this idea. In my experience, just as much productive decision making happens in the unofficial after-hours activities as during formal(ish) meetings/presentations. I think it is very important that the meeting remain in-person if at all possible. Those appear really productive and make it possible for a wide range of interested parties from all over the world to attend, regardless of travel times, or even just attend select sessions (that would otherwise make it hard to justify travel expenses time off). Alternatively, would a relocation to a more connected venue help, such as Vienna xor Prague? Personally, I don't care where we meet, but I do believe Fabio already ruled out a relocation. I'd love to get some more feedback from the community. I agree. some feedback would be useful. digimer puts on her flame-retardant pantaloons and waits for the worst... -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education?
Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 24/11/14 10:12 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Oh, bring him! crazy++ -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education?
Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 11/24/2014 4:12 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. Fabio
Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 25 Nov 2014, at 2:12 am, Lars Marowsky-Bree l...@suse.com wrote: On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) Its not necessarily the conference of choice even for people that do. I just do what I'm told :) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde ___ ha-wg-technical mailing list ha-wg-techni...@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
