Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
On 11/12/2011 01:39 PM, David Cole wrote: For reference, the bug Mike refers to is this one: http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=11258 I always use the manual technique of shutting down VS, running CMake, and then re-opening VS. It's really not that bad, once you get used to it. David C. Is it possibly an alternative to use cmake --build within an already configured build tree, provided the VS IDE is not strictly necessary? E.g., when porting a project from *nix to Windows, I usually open the VS shell, run CMake on the project's source tree from within a build directory and finally cmake --build .. For last-minute changes, I use the editor of my choice and invoke cmake --build . again. With Makefiles on *nix, this approach works as expected, but with VS, I noticed the following issue: The project is correctly rebuilt after a change in a source file, but a change in a CMakeLists.txt file only results in a regeneration of the solution and project files *without* recompiling or relinking anything, i.e. it is solely the ZERO_CHECK project which is rebuilt. In order to rebuild the actual targets, I need to specify the --clean-first option to cmake --build .. It seems as if a changed VS project file doesn't make VS recompile the affected source files, even if this is clearly necessary, e.g. due to changed preprocessor definitions. Is this behavior intended or VS-immanent, or should it be taken for buggy? Perhaps, a VS expert could shed some light on this matter; it'd be greatly appreciated. Regards, Michael On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Michael Jackson mike.jack...@bluequartz.net wrote: It is worse and better. 1: CMake will generate the VS projects and solutions every time it needs to run. DO NOT EDIT the generated VS projects and solutions. Add the requirements to the CMake files. 2: If you are on VS2007/VS2008 and you do a git pull and then switch to VS and click build a cmake check is run FIRST. If anything is different the new solution and project files are generated and then the build continues. You will get a dialog asking if you want to reload all of the projects. Things are pretty nice. 3: If you are on VS2010 there is now a long standing bug that seems to have no solution where you basically have to do the following: Close the VS solution git pull run cmake to regenerate the solution and projects Open the Solution and Compile. Yep. Sucks. Purchased VS2010 last year and have yet to use it because of that bug. If we (the cmake community**) were to actually figure out how to solve the problem then VS2010 would be as seamless as VS2008. Here is hoping for the future. ** I have kept track of the bug. Kitware and others have put a lot of time into trying to fix the bug. It just seams to be one of those elusive fixes that there just may not be a solution to. -- Mike Jackson www.bluequartz.net On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:30 PM, David Doria wrote: I typically work in KDevelop which has CMake support, so if another developer pushes some new files and changes to the CMakeLists.txt of my project, I simply 'git pull' the project and then click Build and it knows exactly what to do - it runs CMake and then builds the project. However, when working with Visual Studio, do I have to 'git pull', then go open cmake-gui from the VS2010E terminal, re-configure and re-generate the project, then reimport the VS2010E project, then build? This seems horribly awkward. And the reverse appears to have the same problem - if working inside VS I add a file to the VS project, how do I 'export' this addition back to the git repo? Thanks, David -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
For reference, the bug Mike refers to is this one: http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=11258 I always use the manual technique of shutting down VS, running CMake, and then re-opening VS. It's really not that bad, once you get used to it. David C. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Michael Jackson mike.jack...@bluequartz.net wrote: It is worse and better. 1: CMake will generate the VS projects and solutions every time it needs to run. DO NOT EDIT the generated VS projects and solutions. Add the requirements to the CMake files. 2: If you are on VS2007/VS2008 and you do a git pull and then switch to VS and click build a cmake check is run FIRST. If anything is different the new solution and project files are generated and then the build continues. You will get a dialog asking if you want to reload all of the projects. Things are pretty nice. 3: If you are on VS2010 there is now a long standing bug that seems to have no solution where you basically have to do the following: Close the VS solution git pull run cmake to regenerate the solution and projects Open the Solution and Compile. Yep. Sucks. Purchased VS2010 last year and have yet to use it because of that bug. If we (the cmake community**) were to actually figure out how to solve the problem then VS2010 would be as seamless as VS2008. Here is hoping for the future. ** I have kept track of the bug. Kitware and others have put a lot of time into trying to fix the bug. It just seams to be one of those elusive fixes that there just may not be a solution to. -- Mike Jackson www.bluequartz.net On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:30 PM, David Doria wrote: I typically work in KDevelop which has CMake support, so if another developer pushes some new files and changes to the CMakeLists.txt of my project, I simply 'git pull' the project and then click Build and it knows exactly what to do - it runs CMake and then builds the project. However, when working with Visual Studio, do I have to 'git pull', then go open cmake-gui from the VS2010E terminal, re-configure and re-generate the project, then reimport the VS2010E project, then build? This seems horribly awkward. And the reverse appears to have the same problem - if working inside VS I add a file to the VS project, how do I 'export' this addition back to the git repo? Thanks, David -- -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
On 12 November 2011 12:39, David Cole david.c...@kitware.com wrote: For reference, the bug Mike refers to is this one: http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=11258 I always use the manual technique of shutting down VS, running CMake, and then re-opening VS. It's really not that bad, once you get used to it. Actually, there is no need to completely shut down VS. File - Close Solution or quick keyboard shortcut/accelerators use: Alt + F - t then run cmake then File - Recent Projects - reopen yours or quick shortcut Alt + F - j - 1 Using keyboard makes this operation unnoticeable effort. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
That's what we do to. It basically comes down to the inconvenience of having to do that with Visual Studio being outweighed (considerably!) by the cross-platform benefits of CMake. (It does help that none of our developers use Windows as their primary development platform, so it only comes up when we make sure things are working on Windows...) I really wish Microsoft would integrate support for CMake projects into Visual Studio the way KDevelop has, although I suppose that's right up there probability wise with hoping they'll integrate clang... Cheers, CY On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:39 AM, David Cole david.c...@kitware.com wrote: For reference, the bug Mike refers to is this one: http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=11258 I always use the manual technique of shutting down VS, running CMake, and then re-opening VS. It's really not that bad, once you get used to it. David C. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Michael Jackson mike.jack...@bluequartz.net wrote: It is worse and better. 1: CMake will generate the VS projects and solutions every time it needs to run. DO NOT EDIT the generated VS projects and solutions. Add the requirements to the CMake files. 2: If you are on VS2007/VS2008 and you do a git pull and then switch to VS and click build a cmake check is run FIRST. If anything is different the new solution and project files are generated and then the build continues. You will get a dialog asking if you want to reload all of the projects. Things are pretty nice. 3: If you are on VS2010 there is now a long standing bug that seems to have no solution where you basically have to do the following: Close the VS solution git pull run cmake to regenerate the solution and projects Open the Solution and Compile. Yep. Sucks. Purchased VS2010 last year and have yet to use it because of that bug. If we (the cmake community**) were to actually figure out how to solve the problem then VS2010 would be as seamless as VS2008. Here is hoping for the future. ** I have kept track of the bug. Kitware and others have put a lot of time into trying to fix the bug. It just seams to be one of those elusive fixes that there just may not be a solution to. -- Mike Jackson www.bluequartz.net On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:30 PM, David Doria wrote: I typically work in KDevelop which has CMake support, so if another developer pushes some new files and changes to the CMakeLists.txt of my project, I simply 'git pull' the project and then click Build and it knows exactly what to do - it runs CMake and then builds the project. However, when working with Visual Studio, do I have to 'git pull', then go open cmake-gui from the VS2010E terminal, re-configure and re-generate the project, then reimport the VS2010E project, then build? This seems horribly awkward. And the reverse appears to have the same problem - if working inside VS I add a file to the VS project, how do I 'export' this addition back to the git repo? Thanks, David -- -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
It basically comes down to the inconvenience of having to do that with Visual Studio being outweighed (considerably!) by the cross-platform benefits of CMake. (It does help that none of our developers use Windows as their primary development platform, so it only comes up when we make sure things are working on Windows...) I use Visual Studio 2010 daily for the last 6 months or so and the bug is not that difficult for me to work with at all. I do admit it is annoying when you get prompted 50 times to reload projects but most of the time it does not do that. I mean if you only add files to a single project it will not prompt you for the other 49. Now if I know the change will be big, I usually close the solution and run cmake externally from a script. John -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
On 11/12/2011 10:51 AM, John Drescher wrote: It basically comes down to the inconvenience of having to do that with Visual Studio being outweighed (considerably!) by the cross-platform benefits of CMake. (It does help that none of our developers use Windows as their primary development platform, so it only comes up when we make sure things are working on Windows...) I use Visual Studio 2010 daily for the last 6 months or so and the bug is not that difficult for me to work with at all. I do admit it is annoying when you get prompted 50 times to reload projects but most of the time it does not do that. I mean if you only add files to a single project it will not prompt you for the other 49. Now if I know the change will be big, I usually close the solution and run cmake externally from a script. Does this solution work for VS 2010: There is an out of cmake solution for this. http://vscommands.com/ [^] If you install the VSCommands plugin free version, it will fix the reload dialog to only ask once. -Bill -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Bill Hoffman bill.hoff...@kitware.com wrote: On 11/12/2011 10:51 AM, John Drescher wrote: It basically comes down to the inconvenience of having to do that with Visual Studio being outweighed (considerably!) by the cross-platform benefits of CMake. (It does help that none of our developers use Windows as their primary development platform, so it only comes up when we make sure things are working on Windows...) I use Visual Studio 2010 daily for the last 6 months or so and the bug is not that difficult for me to work with at all. I do admit it is annoying when you get prompted 50 times to reload projects but most of the time it does not do that. I mean if you only add files to a single project it will not prompt you for the other 49. Now if I know the change will be big, I usually close the solution and run cmake externally from a script. Does this solution work for VS 2010: There is an out of cmake solution for this. http://vscommands.com/ [^] If you install the VSCommands plugin free version, it will fix the reload dialog to only ask once. I have not tried that. I will do so and report back in around 2 weeks. I am leaving for a vacation at 4:00 AM tomorrow and I do not think I will have any time to test this.. John -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Bill Hoffman wrote: On 11/12/2011 10:51 AM, John Drescher wrote: It basically comes down to the inconvenience of having to do that with Visual Studio being outweighed (considerably!) by the cross-platform benefits of CMake. (It does help that none of our developers use Windows as their primary development platform, so it only comes up when we make sure things are working on Windows...) I use Visual Studio 2010 daily for the last 6 months or so and the bug is not that difficult for me to work with at all. I do admit it is annoying when you get prompted 50 times to reload projects but most of the time it does not do that. I mean if you only add files to a single project it will not prompt you for the other 49. Now if I know the change will be big, I usually close the solution and run cmake externally from a script. Does this solution work for VS 2010: There is an out of cmake solution for this. http://vscommands.com/ [^] If you install the VSCommands plugin free version, it will fix the reload dialog to only ask once. -Bill -- So with CMake 2.8.6 and the vscommands installed with VS 2010 I will get ONLY a single dialog asking me to reload the VS solution file? If that is true I can handle that as an added requirement. Thanks Mike Jackson -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Workflow of a collaborative project in Visual Studio+CMake
It is worse and better. 1: CMake will generate the VS projects and solutions every time it needs to run. DO NOT EDIT the generated VS projects and solutions. Add the requirements to the CMake files. 2: If you are on VS2007/VS2008 and you do a git pull and then switch to VS and click build a cmake check is run FIRST. If anything is different the new solution and project files are generated and then the build continues. You will get a dialog asking if you want to reload all of the projects. Things are pretty nice. 3: If you are on VS2010 there is now a long standing bug that seems to have no solution where you basically have to do the following: Close the VS solution git pull run cmake to regenerate the solution and projects Open the Solution and Compile. Yep. Sucks. Purchased VS2010 last year and have yet to use it because of that bug. If we (the cmake community**) were to actually figure out how to solve the problem then VS2010 would be as seamless as VS2008. Here is hoping for the future. ** I have kept track of the bug. Kitware and others have put a lot of time into trying to fix the bug. It just seams to be one of those elusive fixes that there just may not be a solution to. -- Mike Jackson www.bluequartz.net On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:30 PM, David Doria wrote: I typically work in KDevelop which has CMake support, so if another developer pushes some new files and changes to the CMakeLists.txt of my project, I simply 'git pull' the project and then click Build and it knows exactly what to do - it runs CMake and then builds the project. However, when working with Visual Studio, do I have to 'git pull', then go open cmake-gui from the VS2010E terminal, re-configure and re-generate the project, then reimport the VS2010E project, then build? This seems horribly awkward. And the reverse appears to have the same problem - if working inside VS I add a file to the VS project, how do I 'export' this addition back to the git repo? Thanks, David -- -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
