Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-08 Thread Alan W. Irwin

On 2014-10-08 10:05-0400 Brad King wrote:


On 10/07/2014 09:23 PM, Alan W. Irwin wrote:

I have now looked at the documentation for ctest-3.0.2, and cdash is
mentioned a lot more but then so is dart.  I think that documentation
should be updated to point users exclusively at cdash


Help: Replace 'Dart' with 'CDash' in ctest.1 manual
http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8aa0cdf


Thanks.  That is a step in the right direction, but there are more mentions of
dart then you have dealt with so far. See the results from

ctest --help-full

(at least for version 3.0.2).




Furthermore, to prevent others being misled like I was by
http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml, could someone with
write access to that web server either drop that page or modify that
page so that it at least mentions that dart is no longer maintained
and cdash is the suggested alternative?


I will look at that, thanks.

-Brad



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Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-08 Thread Brad King
On 10/08/2014 01:34 PM, Alan W. Irwin wrote:
 Thanks.  That is a step in the right direction, but there are more mentions of
 dart then you have dealt with so far. See the results from
 
 ctest --help-full
 
 (at least for version 3.0.2).

According to:

 $ git grep -i dart -- Help Modules

the remaining mentions of Dart are in:

* The FindDart module which we have to keep for compatibility.
  It is only linked from the list of available modules.

* The Dart module which we have to keep for compatibility, and
  whose documentation says so and refers to the CTest module.

* Discussion of the DartConfiguration.tcl configuration file,
  which is actually for configuring CTest (it's historical).

There is no text left that suggests using Dart for anything
in the ctest(1) manual.

-Brad

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[cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-07 Thread Alan W. Irwin

I thought it would be interesting to install my own local dart server
to learn how to use CTest as a dart client.  However, the dart server
software development effort seems to have a largely broken web
presence.  For example, http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml
points to a Dart.pdf documentation file that is a broken link.  The
Dart Wiki at http://na-mic.org/Wiki/index.php/Dart2Summary which is
recommended by the above cmake.org site is still up and running, but
it also refers to that same broken link for Dart.pdf. From the Wiki
the latest Dart release seems to be 1.0.9 (from 7 (!) years ago).  I
discovered that release does include the Dart.pdf file which is good,
but only includes jar files and not source code which is bad.  For
example, I am concerned those 7-year old *.class files in the jar
files might not run properly with modern java.

Therefore, I would like to build those jar files from source.  According
to the above wiki you can get access to the source code using

svn co http://svn.na-mic.org/svn/Dart/trunk

but that command immediately returns
svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.na-mic.org/svn/Dart/trunk': 200 OK

In contrast, Dart.pdf states that source code is available using

svn checkout http://svn.na-mic.org:8000/svn/Dart

However, that command times out with cannot connect to server.

Does anyone here know how to access the Dart source or is that gone
forever?

Alan
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Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-07 Thread David Cole via cmake-developers
Consider using CDash instead. It was Dart's drop-in replacement...
and is actively maintained today.

www.cdash.org


On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote:
 I thought it would be interesting to install my own local dart server
 to learn how to use CTest as a dart client.  However, the dart server
 software development effort seems to have a largely broken web
 presence.  For example, http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml
 points to a Dart.pdf documentation file that is a broken link.  The
 Dart Wiki at http://na-mic.org/Wiki/index.php/Dart2Summary which is
 recommended by the above cmake.org site is still up and running, but
 it also refers to that same broken link for Dart.pdf. From the Wiki
 the latest Dart release seems to be 1.0.9 (from 7 (!) years ago).  I
 discovered that release does include the Dart.pdf file which is good,
 but only includes jar files and not source code which is bad.  For
 example, I am concerned those 7-year old *.class files in the jar
 files might not run properly with modern java.

 Therefore, I would like to build those jar files from source.  According
 to the above wiki you can get access to the source code using

 svn co http://svn.na-mic.org/svn/Dart/trunk

 but that command immediately returns
 svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.na-mic.org/svn/Dart/trunk': 200 OK

 In contrast, Dart.pdf states that source code is available using

 svn checkout http://svn.na-mic.org:8000/svn/Dart

 However, that command times out with cannot connect to server.

 Does anyone here know how to access the Dart source or is that gone
 forever?

 Alan
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Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-07 Thread Alan W. Irwin

On 2014-10-07 19:06-0400 David Cole wrote:


Consider using CDash instead. It was Dart's drop-in replacement...
and is actively maintained today.

www.cdash.org


Thanks, Dave, for that information.

In reviewing why I wasted my time looking at the moribund dart rather
than cdash, dart clients are mentioned several times in the
ctest-2.8.12.2 documentation (and I missed the one reference to cdash
that also occurs there) so I did a google search, found
http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml and went galloping off
in the wrong direction.  :-(

I have now looked at the documentation for ctest-3.0.2, and cdash is
mentioned a lot more but then so is dart.  I think that documentation
should be updated to point users exclusively at cdash (possibly with a
reference to the dart protocol or dart standard but definitely not the
dart software which really is moribund or dart servers unless you are
referring to the protocol and not the software).

Furthermore, to prevent others being misled like I was by
http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml, could someone with
write access to that web server either drop that page or modify that
page so that it at least mentions that dart is no longer maintained
and cdash is the suggested alternative?

Currently http://www.cdash.org/overview/ does not mention dart at all
which is probably the best approach and what the ctest documentation
should do as well.

Alan
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Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-07 Thread Jacky Alciné
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote:
 On 2014-10-07 19:06-0400 David Cole wrote:

 Consider using CDash instead. It was Dart's drop-in replacement...
 and is actively maintained today.

 www.cdash.org


 Thanks, Dave, for that information.

 In reviewing why I wasted my time looking at the moribund dart rather
 than cdash, dart clients are mentioned several times in the
 ctest-2.8.12.2 documentation (and I missed the one reference to cdash
 that also occurs there) so I did a google search, found
 http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml and went galloping off
 in the wrong direction.  :-(

 I have now looked at the documentation for ctest-3.0.2, and cdash is
 mentioned a lot more but then so is dart.  I think that documentation
 should be updated to point users exclusively at cdash (possibly with a
 reference to the dart protocol or dart standard but definitely not the
 dart software which really is moribund or dart servers unless you are
 referring to the protocol and not the software).

 Furthermore, to prevent others being misled like I was by
 http://www.cmake.org/dart/HTML/Install.shtml, could someone with
 write access to that web server either drop that page or modify that
 page so that it at least mentions that dart is no longer maintained
 and cdash is the suggested alternative?

 Currently http://www.cdash.org/overview/ does not mention dart at all
 which is probably the best approach and what the ctest documentation
 should do as well.


 Alan
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We should probably wipe those references or just update that for 3.0

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Re: [cmake-developers] Any ideas for accessing the Dart source code?

2014-10-07 Thread Nils Gladitz

On 10/08/2014 12:46 AM, Alan W. Irwin wrote:

I thought it would be interesting to install my own local dart server
to learn how to use CTest as a dart client.


You probably want the newer Kitware maintained replacement CDash:
http://www.cdash.org/

Additional instructions for a local installation can be found here:
http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/CDash:Installation

CMake's own CDash Dashboard can be seen in action here:
http://open.cdash.org/index.php?project=CMake

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