Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Similar to Rich and Joe a recommendation would be based on what batteries you 
have
and your usage of them. That said, Canadian Tire has the Noco Genius chargers 
on sale
this week.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/search-results.html?searchByTerm=true&q=noco

The GEN 3 charger could be a good fit.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/noco-genius-gen-3-on-board-battery-charger-0111939p.html#.VAUmBqMXPfE

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:35:20 + 
From: Glen Eddie  
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Subject: Stus-List Battery chargers. 
Message-ID: <20140831223519.6082707.60787.30...@torkinmanes.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
 
Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i 
 
 
 
Glen Eddie 
Tel: 416-777-5357 
Fax: 1-888-812-2557 
ged...@torkinmanes.com 
VCard 
 
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Chris Price via CnC-List]

Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words. 

I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot. 

Chris Price 
Pradel 35 Mk I 
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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Unless you rinsed off the Simple Green (soap) nothing will stick to it.  A good 
rinse with hot water and a thorough drying should give you a surface that your 
adhesive will stick to.

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via 
CnC-List
Sent: September-01-14 16:23
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

 

I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by the 
(obvious) answer. 

 

Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in the 
overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like these: 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865

 

Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the cover 
panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure. 

 

The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I tried 
the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape. Nothing 
will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached. 

 

I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering 
whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless 
exercise. 

 

Any tips or suggestions? 

  _  

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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Just a thought.  Try mixing up some epoxy and painting it on the surface
first.  While the epoxy it is still tacky (90% cured) stick the LEDs with
their adhesive to the tacky epoxy.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 1, 2014 3:22 PM, "RPH via CnC-List"  wrote:

> I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by
> the (obvious) answer.
>
> Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in
> the overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like
> these:
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865
>
> Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the
> cover panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure.
>
> The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I
> tried the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape.
> Nothing will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached.
>
> I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering
> whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless
> exercise.
>
> Any tips or suggestions?
>
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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[RPH via CnC-List]

Actually, no. I originally thought that acetone might be too harsh. I'm going 
to try it. 

 Original message From: Danny Haughey via 
CnC-List  Date:09-01-2014  12:46 PM  
(GMT-08:00) To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Nothing Will Stick! 
have you tried cleaning with an acetone or a wax remover?

-- Original Message --
From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
To: RPH , "C&C List" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:40:36 -0700

Fwiw I've tried sticking led puck lights in my lazarette on our 30-2 and 
couldn't get anything to stick there either. I just finally gave up and stuck 
the adhesive with super glue from our med kit.

I also stuck one on the underside of our helm seat so that we can more easily 
connect our shore power when we come in after dark Which we do quite often, 
especially after dark in winter.

I am curious, did you connect the led s in lieu of the florescent fixtures 
located there or adjacent to them? I would be curious to hear what you've done 
for switching if it was the latter.

It's your 30-2 in the great lakes?

Best,
Kevin

Sent from my Tablet

On Sep 1, 2014 12:22 PM, "RPH via CnC-List"  wrote:
I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by the 
(obvious) answer. 
 
Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in the 
overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like these: 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865
 
Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the cover 
panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure. 
 
The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I tried 
the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape. Nothing 
will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached. 
 
I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering 
whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless 
exercise. 
 
Any tips or suggestions? 

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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I mounted mine on plywood.
Joel

On Monday, September 1, 2014, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> have you tried cleaning with an acetone or a wax remover?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  >
> To: RPH  >, "C&C List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> >
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:40:36 -0700
>
> Fwiw I've tried sticking led puck lights in my lazarette on our 30-2 and
> couldn't get anything to stick there either. I just finally gave up and
> stuck the adhesive with super glue from our med kit.
>
> I also stuck one on the underside of our helm seat so that we can more
> easily connect our shore power when we come in after dark Which we do
> quite often, especially after dark in winter.
>
> I am curious, did you connect the led s in lieu of the florescent fixtures
> located there or adjacent to them? I would be curious to hear what you've
> done for switching if it was the latter.
>
> It's your 30-2 in the great lakes?
>
> Best,
> Kevin
>
> Sent from my Tablet
> On Sep 1, 2014 12:22 PM, "RPH via CnC-List"  > wrote:
>
>> I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed
>> by the (obvious) answer.
>>
>> Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in
>> the overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like
>> these:
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865
>>
>> Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the
>> cover panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure.
>>
>> The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I
>> tried the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape.
>> Nothing will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached.
>>
>> I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering
>> whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless
>> exercise.
>>
>> Any tips or suggestions?
>>
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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

have you tried cleaning with an acetone or a wax remover?

-- Original Message --
From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
To: RPH , "C&C List" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:40:36 -0700


Fwiw I've tried sticking led puck lights in my lazarette on our 30-2 and 
couldn't get anything to stick there either. I just finally gave up and stuck 
the adhesive with super glue from our med kit.
I also stuck one on the underside of our helm seat so that we can more easily 
connect our shore power when we come in after dark Which we do quite often, 
especially after dark in winter.
I am curious, did you connect the led s in lieu of the florescent fixtures 
located there or adjacent to them? I would be curious to hear what you've done 
for switching if it was the latter.
It's your 30-2 in the great lakes?
Best,
 Kevin
Sent from my Tablet
On Sep 1, 2014 12:22 PM, "RPH via CnC-List"  wrote:
I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by the 
(obvious) answer.  Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led 
light strips in the overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights 
are like these: 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865
 Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the cover 
panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure.  The lights are 
supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I tried the tape. I tried 
"industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape. Nothing will stick. By the 
next day, the light strips have detached.  I did clean the raw fibreglass with 
Simple Green,  but I am now wondering whether there is something in the resin 
that is making this a hopeless exercise.  Any tips or suggestions? 
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Re: Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Fwiw I've tried sticking led puck lights in my lazarette on our 30-2 and
couldn't get anything to stick there either. I just finally gave up and
stuck the adhesive with super glue from our med kit.

I also stuck one on the underside of our helm seat so that we can more
easily connect our shore power when we come in after dark Which we do
quite often, especially after dark in winter.

I am curious, did you connect the led s in lieu of the florescent fixtures
located there or adjacent to them? I would be curious to hear what you've
done for switching if it was the latter.

It's your 30-2 in the great lakes?

Best,
Kevin

Sent from my Tablet
On Sep 1, 2014 12:22 PM, "RPH via CnC-List"  wrote:

> I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by
> the (obvious) answer.
>
> Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in
> the overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like
> these:
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865
>
> Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the
> cover panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure.
>
> The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I
> tried the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape.
> Nothing will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached.
>
> I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering
> whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless
> exercise.
>
> Any tips or suggestions?
>
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Re: Stus-List CnC 33 MK II Keel removal

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:39:49 -0300
From: Rich Knowles 
To: Joe Della Barba ,  "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"

Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with minimal 
dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging overnight with 
a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the batteries after a 
day or two on the water. 

Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have three 
batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine starting. 
Just curious. 

Rich

> On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
>  
> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that 
> hasn?t been made in a long time.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com
>  
> Coquina
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
> To: Glen Eddie; C&C List
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
>  
> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex 
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying 
> away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp) 
> and have had absolutely no issues.
> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/
> 
> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be 
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of 
> capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List"  
> wrote:
>  
> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i
>  
>  
> Glen Eddie
> Tel: 416-777-5357
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
> VCard
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Stus-List Nothing Will Stick!

[RPH via CnC-List]

I already know that this is a stupid question and that I will be shamed by the 
(obvious) answer. 

Anyway, I attempted to install a couple of flexible led light strips in the 
overhead light recesses in the cabin of my 30-2. The lights are like these: 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/optx-marine--flexible-heavy-duty-led-strip-lights-12--P012712865

Each overhead light recess has a translucent cover panel. Underneath the cover 
panel is the raw fibreglass side if the deck structure. 

The lights are supposed to be affixed using an adhesive backed tape. I tried 
the tape. I tried "industrial" Velcro. I tried "No More Nails" tape. Nothing 
will stick. By the next day, the light strips have detached. 

I did clean the raw fibreglass with Simple Green,  but I am now wondering 
whether there is something in the resin that is making this a hopeless 
exercise. 

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Re: Stus-List Too Much Bottom Paint - Use It Up?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

What is left probaby has very little anti-fouling properties.  If you live
in an area with a lot of growth you will have to dive more frequently.

Lots of people are in the soda blasting business.  That price sounds high
unless it includes the barrier coating itself.  Recommended application is
4 coats.

Joel
35/3

Annapolis

On Monday, September 1, 2014, RPH via CnC-List 
wrote:

> My 30-2 has many layers of Micron CSC ablative paint. The most recent
> layers of paint are flaking. I am told this is due to the fact that
> ablative paint absorbs water like a sponge and then sheds that water when
> the boat is hauled. Eventually, there is enough swelling and shrinking in
> the layers of old paint to prevent proper adhesion.
>
> Anyway, I had been planning to have the yard strip off all the old paint,
> apply a barrier coat,  and then start fresh with a couple of coats of
> bottom paint. The cost would be about $120 per foot.
>
> However, this is just one of several projects and I'm trying to
> prioritize. I have been wondering  Do I really need a bottom job,  or
> can I just continue to let the bottom paint ablate,  at least for the time
> being? Sure, I don't have a race bottom, but I can live with that.
>
> I will eventually get a bottom job, but why shouldn't I just "use" the
> copious bottom paint that I already have? Am I missing something?
>


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Stus-List Too Much Bottom Paint - Use It Up?

[RPH via CnC-List]

My 30-2 has many layers of Micron CSC ablative paint. The most recent layers of 
paint are flaking. I am told this is due to the fact that ablative paint 
absorbs water like a sponge and then sheds that water when the boat is hauled. 
Eventually, there is enough swelling and shrinking in the layers of old paint 
to prevent proper adhesion. 

Anyway, I had been planning to have the yard strip off all the old paint, apply 
a barrier coat,  and then start fresh with a couple of coats of bottom paint. 
The cost would be about $120 per foot. 

However, this is just one of several projects and I'm trying to prioritize. I 
have been wondering  Do I really need a bottom job,  or can I just continue 
to let the bottom paint ablate,  at least for the time being? Sure, I don't 
have a race bottom, but I can live with that. 

I will eventually get a bottom job, but why shouldn't I just "use" the copious 
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Re: Stus-List 12V TV

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

" I only mention this because stuff in Mexico is often
 out-of-market stuff 
 that didn't sell up north and was dumped, and I've learned
 that if you 
 see something you need you must go for it immediately
 because it may 
 never be on the shelf again."

So Wally, are you saying Mexico is the 'Big Lots' to the world?
Ron
Wild Cheri
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