I too went thru Navtec for a leak without success, took mine to local tractor
dealer, fixed the first time 5 years ago, still no leaks or problems. Contact
me off list if anyone wants address phone number. Navtec charged me $ 300 plus
and did not fix, my local guy $ 75 and still going strong
Barry Miller,
Miller Time, CC 34
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:32:16 -0400
From: Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.com
To: Bruno Lachance bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com,
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
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Bruno,
Have you considered a cascade system? I was racing on a friends boat
earlier this year and he was going to pull out because his backstay was
still at Navtec being re-built... We rigged up a cascade system using
existing parts / line I had on Mojito; varying sizes of Amsteel, high load
guy blocks and a vang I'd put together while my vang was being rebuilt by
Navtec (there's a theme here somewhere). It worked out at 24:1 (2:1 x 2:1
x 6:1), which would get you 2400 lbs tension with a 100lb pull. Below is a
link to a 24:1 version and a Beneteau 36.7 I sailed on had a 48:1 like the
Harken. With only a single attachment point there is a risk of tangles
versus the multiple chain plates, but Amsteel is slippery stuff, so as long
as you get the block reeving right it should be OK.
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?11645-Hydraulic-to-Cascading-Backstay-Upgrade
http://www.harken.com/DeckLayout.aspx?id=14795
Tim
Mojito
CC 35-3
Branford, CT
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not
mine.
I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market.
anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i
don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some
sort of relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but
the numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat.
I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a
year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something
this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom.
not fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with
my vacations.
thanks for inputs
Bruno Lachance
CC 33 mkII
Becassine
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:20 -0400
To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
My 2 cents:
I don't think the 33 is a split backstay. The cost to split it and
install new chain plates would probably exceed the cost of a hydraulic
unit.
With a masthead rig I would want more power than you can get with a manual
adjuster.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I second the split back with tackle/cam cleat apparatus suggestion. I race
a bit with it and Find it straight forward and quick adjusting. Pretty
direct feedback on rig tension.
KD
On October 8, 2014, at 1:13PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
For a 33 you may want to consider one of the fittings that ride on a
split backstay from Johnson. Not nearly as eloquent but effective and
probably the best value.
John
On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
If you race your boat you will find the mechanical back stay adjuster to
be a complete PITA.
I have a stainless steel Barient back stay adjuster (5/8 pins and uses a
winch handle to adjust) that came with my boat back in 1975 to be used in
case the original Meriman hydraulic adjusters failed. It did indeed fail
and we rigged the Barient and it