Re: Stus-List LF38 deck drains (was: Bilge pump)

2015-03-24 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I've connected my midship drains to the aft drains and then to a much larger 
thru hull at the stern above the waterline.  They are connected with increasing 
hose sizes.  I described this in a recent blog post.  The system works great.  
I couldn't remove the old hose in back of the ice box.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 My LF38 had them Tied and Teed into the galley sink drain.  I didn't like 
 that.  When I replaced all my hoses I couldn't access the port one as it was 
 run behind the ice box and wouldn't move, so I plugged up the drain for a 
 while and thought about it.  I didn't think about it long enough, as my 
 solution is so totally sub-optimal that I won't bother describing it.
 
 I have added drains through the teak toe rails, by carefully working a hole 
 saw right at deck level through the teak, and epoxying a section of PVC in 
 there, sanding it flush and painting it.  That actually works great.  If I 
 ever paint my deck, I'll take those amidships drains and glass them flush, 
 and add two drains through the toe rail amidships.
 
 Wal
 
 Bob wrote:
 The CC Landfall 38 came from the factory with two mid-ship deck drains that 
 drained into the bilge--the other two (aft) deck drains drained overboard.  
 During the winter, these two midship deck drains can accumulate a lot of 
 water in the bilge.  So, not all CC's can simply use manually operated 
 bilge pumps (unless you are living aboard and pay close attention to the 
 bilge level).  Also, any antifreeze mixture in the bilge will get diluted 
 quite quickly.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Deck drains

2015-03-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
FWIW, I remember a creative arrangement for deck drains on a cruising boat that 
passed through Washington some time ago. I always thought that when I get 
around to making deck drains for my 38 I would follow the pattern.

 

The arrangement requires that you have access to the area under the deck where 
the drains are installed. This boat had a valve installed in the line just 
below the drain – in concept like a Y valve – that would let the water be 
directed into one of two hoses. One hose was routed down to a thru hull a 
couple of feet above the water line. This was the normal drain position. The 
other hose was routed to a fitting in the water tanks. 

 

Normal rain and spray went out over the side. When at anchor, and when there 
was a goodly amount of rain falling, the couple would allow the rainfall to go 
overboard until they considered the decks to be “clean” of salt, etc., and 
would then direct the rainwater into their fresh water tanks. Said it worked 
well in the Bahamas, South Pacific, and other places where water was expensive 
or hard to get.

 

Goes without saying that you would need to keep a bit of bleach or a water 
sweetener in the tanks – but you would normally do that anyway. And I recall 
the folks had a largish home water filter installed between tank and pumps. 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:15 AM
To: robert; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump

 

Rob, you are absolutely correct...slightly worse in the winter because no one 
is likely to be around...

Bob Boyer

S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD

1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230

email: dainyr...@icloud.com mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com  

blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com http://dainyrays.blogspot.com 

 

There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame


On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:30 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Bob:
From the design you describe of mid-ship deck drains that drain into the 
bilge, it is not only during the winter but whenever these drains collect 
water, they deposit to the bilge.

Not just a winter concern.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.   



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From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 

Date: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 11:34

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com ;

Subject:Re: Stus-List Bilge pump

The CC Landfall 38 came from the factory with two mid-ship deck drains that 
drained into the bilge--the other two (aft) deck drains drained overboard.  
During the winter, these two midship deck drains can accumulate a lot of water 
in the bilge.  So, not all CC's can simply use manually operated bilge pumps 
(unless you are living aboard and pay close attention to the bilge level).  
Also, any antifreeze mixture in the bilge will get diluted quite quickly. 

 

Bob

 

On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:16 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote:





Dwight:

I don't remove the bilge pump and switch during winter storage...what's the 
point when you winterize it/flush/fill it, and the line, with antifreeze and 
then above the floor boards leave the bottom end of the pump submerged 
in the same mix?   Mine is submerged in the antifreeze in the bilge without 
removing it.

Actually, that is not true..my bilge is mostly drythere is the 
occasional backflow of antifreeze from the line but that I sometimes soak up 
with a paper towel.   

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

 

On 2015-03-23 9 tel:2015-03-23%209 :26 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:

One additional thing that I do; remove my bilge pump and switch to above the 
floor boards during winter storage and flush the pump with a 50/50 mix of 
ethylene gycol and water and leave the bottom end of the pump submerged in the 
same mix...I think that helps to keep the pump in good shape for next season




Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

d.ve...@bellaliant.net mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

 

Thoughts on bilge pumps.

First, I'm rewiring a boat that has one of those auto switch pumps.  Every 5 
minutes or so it whirs and stops.  Drives me nuts.  Can't imagine sleeping on a 
boat with one of those installed.

How I wire a bilge pump.  First, install a Rule 43 3 way bilge switch in a 
convenient and protected location.  Power it from one of the battery 
connections on the back side of your main battery switch.  I usually connect it 
to the house bank.  If you can find it, Ancor make some nice 14/3 AWG bilge 
pump cable.  Run that or two positives and a single negative to the bilge. 

Use a round Rule pump of your choice and strap an Ultra Safety Systems Mini 
Bilge Pump switch to it.


Re: Stus-List Hillerange

2015-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
They will probably want a core exchange so they can rebuild your for the
next guy.  I was able to get one last year.  Who knows, you could get my
core!

Joel
35/3
Annapolis.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Len — try these guys:

 http://www.suremarineservice.com/Seaward-Propane--LPG--Range-Parts.aspx

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Mitchell's via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can get a replacement oven gas valve for an older
 Hillerange  model 3121 LPG stove?
 Len Mitchell


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Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is it 
worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend and trying to decide if I 
should drop by...

Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD 
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Stus-List Hillerange

2015-03-24 Thread Mitchell's via CnC-List
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement oven gas valve for an older 
Hillerange  model 3121 LPG stove? 
Len Mitchell


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Re: Stus-List Bilge pump

2015-03-24 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Rob, you are absolutely correct...slightly worse in the winter because no one 
is likely to be around...

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:30 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Bob:
 From the design you describe of mid-ship deck drains that drain into the 
 bilge, it is not only during the winter but whenever these drains collect 
 water, they deposit to the bilge.
 
 Not just a winter concern.
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.   
 -- Original message--
 From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List
 Date: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 11:34
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
 Subject:Re: Stus-List Bilge pump
 The CC Landfall 38 came from the factory with two mid-ship deck drains that 
 drained into the bilge--the other two (aft) deck drains drained overboard.  
 During the winter, these two midship deck drains can accumulate a lot of 
 water in the bilge.  So, not all CC's can simply use manually operated 
 bilge pumps (unless you are living aboard and pay close attention to the 
 bilge level).  Also, any antifreeze mixture in the bilge will get diluted 
 quite quickly.
 
 Bob
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:16 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote:
 
 Dwight:
 
 I don't remove the bilge pump and switch during winter storage...what's the 
 point when you winterize it/flush/fill it, and the line, with antifreeze 
 and then above the floor boards leave the bottom end of the pump 
 submerged in the same mix?   Mine is submerged in the antifreeze in the 
 bilge without removing it.
 
 Actually, that is not true..my bilge is mostly drythere is the 
 occasional backflow of antifreeze from the line but that I sometimes soak 
 up with a paper towel.   
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.
 
  
 
 On 2015-03-23 9:26 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
 One additional thing that I do; remove my bilge pump and switch to above 
 the floor boards during winter storage and flush the pump with a 50/50 mix 
 of ethylene gycol and water and leave the bottom end of the pump submerged 
 in the same mix...I think that helps to keep the pump in good shape for 
 next season
 
 Dwight Veinot
 CC 35 MKII, Alianna
 Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 d.ve...@bellaliant.net
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Thoughts on bilge pumps.
 
 First, I'm rewiring a boat that has one of those auto switch pumps.  
 Every 5 minutes or so it whirs and stops.  Drives me nuts.  Can't imagine 
 sleeping on a boat with one of those installed.
 
 How I wire a bilge pump.  First, install a Rule 43 3 way bilge switch in 
 a convenient and protected location.  Power it from one of the battery 
 connections on the back side of your main battery switch.  I usually 
 connect it to the house bank.  If you can find it, Ancor make some nice 
 14/3 AWG bilge pump cable.  Run that or two positives and a single 
 negative to the bilge. 
 
 Use a round Rule pump of your choice and strap an Ultra Safety Systems 
 Mini Bilge Pump switch to it.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Safety-Systems-Switch-UPS-06-12/dp/B00CGJS4PQ
 
 You will have a very nice and very reliable bilge pump system.
 
 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
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 blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
 
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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I go every year just to get me in the boating frame of mind.  Harder this year 
with all the snow still on the ground. I find the best bargains are often the 
clothing, but you have to get there early.  I have coastal jackets for the 
family, full jacket and farmer john for myself, drysuit etc. all bought there 
at heavy discount.   HH and others usually have some great deals on 
waterproofs, shirts, shoes, gloves, etc.  Bottom paint reps are also there with 
rebates.  Dave


Aries
1990 CC 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List PHRF Adjustments for Spin and JAM in a single fleet

2015-03-24 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
In nova Scotia currently all boats have same rating. Sis. Stuck in snow.  None 
are moving



Seriously it is often stated that in other than fun races spin and non spin 
should be separate fleets.



Mike

phrf nova Scotia
currently in sugarloaf, Maine


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Sent: March 24, 2015 12:02 AM
To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List PHRF Adjustments for Spin and JAM in a single fleet

Rick said  If I have a fleet of 8 to 10 CC sailboats competing in a single 
event over the same course at the same time, but in different (spin  Jam) 
classes, what is an equitable way to determine which boat is the best 
performer?

Here in Nova Scotia, if we wish to race, we must register with the Nova Scotia 
Yachting Associationit provides a PHRF rating based on a declaration, e.g 
sails, fixed and/or folding propellers, etc.  For example, (from my memory 
which might be fuzzy on this) the NSYA rates our CC 32 at a base PHRF of 165 
with a 150% Genoabut with no spin (+18) and a two blade fixed prop (+6) our 
PHRF to race is 189.  Here is the website if you are interested:

http://www.sailnovascotia.ca/racing/phrf-racing/phrf-ns.html

Don't overlook good in the pursuit of perfectionbecause what you are trying 
to achieve, there is 'no perfection'.   And think about giving every competitor 
a bottle of an adult beveragethat will distract them from where they placed!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




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On 2015-03-22 6:00 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
I’m well aware of the problems of running Spin and Jam boats in the same 
fleets, and the frustrations of PHRF racing in fleets that have a wide range of 
boat types ranging from sport boats like the Viper to boats like the San Juan 
21. Time on Time is a boon to fairness in a fleet race, but I can’t think of a 
way that you could set up fair starts for a pursuit race using time on time.

Since the discussion is turning to these things, perhaps I should clarify the 
reason for my question, and rephrase it.

Pirates on the Pungo is an annual charity regatta, held in Belhaven, NC in 
mid-May. (This year it will be May 15-17) Most keelboats compete in a longish 
pursuit race on Saturday, with awards given out on Saturday night at the dinner 
dance, and a second (optional) race on Sunday morning. One designs and dinghies 
compete in windward-leeward races on both days. The pursuit course is typically 
the one I described – about 10 NM with N,S, E, and W legs, starting and ending 
inside the breakwater in the harbor. The keelboats compete for three deep 
prizes in three classes: Spinnaker, PHRF Non-Spinnaker, and Cruising. Cruising 
boats are white sails and not generally raced. Usually there are about 30 
keelboats, with Cruising being the largest class.

I plan to conduct a “CC Rendezvous” within the Pirates on the Pungo regatta. I 
know of about 10 CCs within a day’s travel of Belhaven, which allows travel on 
Friday to arrive for the Skipper’s Reception, compete on Saturday, and sail 
home on Sunday. (There are actually 5 CCs at the River Rat Yacht Club just 5 
miles away) And another 10 or so are within 2 day’s travel. Using the event as 
a venue makes everything really simple. Someone else provides the RC, committee 
boats, marks, photographer, the Friday evening cocktail party, Saturday 
breakfast, Saturday steak and seafood buffet, Sunday brunch, the band for the 
dance, and beer and soda for the weekend. There is free dockage available in 
Belhaven. And since the regatta is part of the Belhaven Pirate Fest this year 
there is even street music and shore side activities on Saturday for family and 
kids who don’t want to race.

All I need to do is arrange a race within a race for the CC owners to 
stimulate competition and camaraderie, provide a prize (and I think one of 
Andrew Burton’s half hulls of the winner’s own boat is a really nice prize), 
figure out how to determine the winner, and get the word out to CC owners.

Figuring out how to determine who gets the prize is the reason for asking the 
original question. Participants will be competing for the overall prizes in one 
of three classes, in a pursuit race based on PHRF ratings. I’ve been involved 
in regattas where the overall winner got a prize for being first in the “most 
competitive” class, but never thought the methods for determining “most 
competitive” were very equitable. The other alternative I could think of was to 
determine an adjustment to the PHRF ratings of the JAM boats, and then score 
the CCs based on their actual time on the course just like you would a Time on 
Distance race.

So let me rephrase my question: If I have a fleet of 8 to 10 CC sailboats 
competing in a single event over the same course at the same time, but in 
different (spin  Jam) classes, what is an equitable way to determine which 
boat is the best 

Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Aaron,

All the best deals will be sold out to those who are probably already
standing in line, but I would be like a kid in a candy shop!

Joel

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Aaron,

 I’ve heard nothing but great things about going to the sale. It’s a little
 too far of a trek :-) for me, but I ALWAYS take advantage of their great
 deals online when the sale comes around. I have my shopping list ready….


 All the best,

 Edd


 Edd M. Schillay
 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/











 On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend?
 Is it worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend and trying to
 decide if I should drop by...

 Cheers,
 Aaron R.
 Admiral Maggie,
 1979 CC 30 MK1 #540
 Annapolis, MD
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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Aaron,

I’ve heard nothing but great things about going to the sale. It’s a little too 
far of a trek :-) for me, but I ALWAYS take advantage of their great deals 
online when the sale comes around. I have my shopping list ready…. 


All the best,

Edd


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Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/













 On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is 
 it worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend and trying to decide 
 if I should drop by...
 
 Cheers,
 Aaron R.
 Admiral Maggie,
 1979 CC 30 MK1 #540
 Annapolis, MD
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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
Aaron,

 

The sale is 10% off everything in the Defender catalogue and that is the
same whether you order online or buy at the warehouse and take it with you.
The warehouse is less than 60 minutes from New Haven and IMO it is worth
making the trip if you can.  Eliminating the $ for shipping, especially
important for heavier or bulky items, can make it worthwhile though you will
pay CT sales tax of 6.35%.  Just the savings on bottom paint can make the
drive worthwhile.  Any / everything else is then gravy.   

 

The warehouse is a zoo especially on Thursday and Saturday mornings of the
sale.  Anything not in stock has to be shipped, though they usually have
most things.  One year I placed an order for a halyard with the rigging shop
when I arrived and it was ready by the time I was ready to check out.  

 

The flea sale / seconds / clearance section and the manufacturers' reps
section can also yield great finds / information.  

 

Brian

 

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Subject: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

 

Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is
it worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend and trying to
decide if I should drop by...

Cheers,

Aaron R.

Admiral Maggie,

1979 CC 30 MK1 #540

Annapolis, MD

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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Yea it's crazy!  Like a really condensed Boat Show.  Very Very Busy, great 
deals, and they'll even ship for you to avoid the tax...uh I mean for the 
convenience of not having to haul the stuff back home yourself... It's 
definitely worth the trip in my opinion.   Danny

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:45:06 -0400


It is quite the three ring circus. Lots of participation by manufacturers. 
Prices are great, and they also have a room of discontinued and shop worn stuff 
that holds some treasures. You'll see things such as brand new 22 pound Delta 
anchors for $50 because the finish is no longer bright. If you have a shopping 
list, the savings really add up. Many of the best bargains are orphans, or old 
stock, and are not listed on the website. There will also be deep discounts on 
stuff such as bottom paint.
 
 Bill Bina 
 
 
On 3/24/2015 10:23 AM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:Are any listers planning 
to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is it worth going? I'll be in 
New Haven's area this weekend and trying to decide if I should drop by...
 
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD 
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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
It is quite the three ring circus. Lots of participation by 
manufacturers. Prices are great, and they also have a room of 
discontinued and shop worn stuff that holds some treasures. You'll see 
things such as brand new 22 pound Delta anchors for $50 because the 
finish is no longer bright. If you have a shopping list, the savings 
really add up. Many of the best bargains are orphans, or old stock, and 
are not listed on the website. There will also be deep discounts on 
stuff such as bottom paint.


Bill Bina



On 3/24/2015 10:23 AM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:
Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this 
weekend? Is it worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend 
and trying to decide if I should drop by...


Cheers,
Aaron R.
Admiral Maggie,
1979 CC 30 MK1 #540
Annapolis, MD



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Stus-List bilge pump switch

2015-03-24 Thread Monty Schumpert via CnC-List
I've been using the Water Witch for several years -- the bilge on the 34+
is narrow with keel bolt nuts in the bottom which makes the float switch
sit too high IMHO. I can't get all the way to the bottom with the Water
Witch but can retain less water than with a float switch. I also have one
in the shower sump to control the shower pump.

Monty
Scandia
1991 CC 34+
Annapolis, MD
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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List

Seems like a must! I'll definitely drop by. Thanks as always! 

Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:12:05 -0400
From: nausetbe...@optonline.net
Subject: RE: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale
To: admiralmag...@outlook.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Aaron, The sale is 10% off everything in the Defender catalogue and that is the 
same whether you order online or buy at the warehouse and take it with you.  
The warehouse is less than 60 minutes from New Haven and IMO it is worth making 
the trip if you can.  Eliminating the $ for shipping, especially important for 
heavier or bulky items, can make it worthwhile though you will pay CT sales tax 
of 6.35%.  Just the savings on bottom paint can make the drive worthwhile.  Any 
/ everything else is then gravy.The warehouse is a zoo especially on 
Thursday and Saturday mornings of the sale.  Anything not in stock has to be 
shipped, though they usually have most things.  One year I placed an order for 
a halyard with the rigging shop when I arrived and it was ready by the time I 
was ready to check out.   The “flea sale / seconds / clearance” section and the 
manufacturers’ reps section can also yield great finds / information.   Brian 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:23 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale Are any listers planning to go to 
Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is it worth going? I'll be in New 
Haven's area this weekend and trying to decide if I should drop 
by...Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
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Re: Stus-List Hillerange

2015-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
sounds right!

Joel

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Sure Marine Seattle?

 Fred Hazzard
 SV Fury
 CC 44
 Portland, Or
 On Mar 24, 2015 6:12 AM, Mitchell's via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can get a replacement oven gas valve for an
 older Hillerange  model 3121 LPG stove?
 Len Mitchell


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Stus-List Bilge Pump now Bilge Pump Switch

2015-03-24 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List


After replacing float switches more than once, I switched to the Water Witch. 
It gets the water lower in the bilge, and it comes with a five year warranty. 


Alan Bergen 

35 Mk III Thirsty 





Just to be clear. 

The Water Witch switch 
https://www.waterwitchinc.com/new/SiteElements/Pages/SecondaryPages/Products/BilgeSwitches.html
 is 100% solid state with no floats or any moving parts. It doesn't cycle 
needlessly either, It just has one or 2 sensor plates (depending on the 
model) that probably measures + voltage to ground difference / conductivity. 

Long story short: It knows when the bilge water level is above the threshold, 
even with some oil (Transmission leak, another story) and other crud it has 
never miss-fired or failed. 

So far, fool proof and used by both Canadian and US coast guards if that means 
anything.. 

Regards 

Francois Rivard 
1990 34+ Take five 
Cumming, GA 

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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

2015-03-24 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I've been there a few times. Great store. Great people and great deals. The 
sale is a great way to see everything and touch it and try it on. They usually 
have bins of clearance stuff and sale items not listed online. Just remember if 
you order online you save paying the tax which is usually five times the 
shipping cost. You can always look at everything at the store and unless you're 
buying a boat, a trailer, or an outboard, wait till you get home to place your 
order. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: Nauset Beach nausetbe...@optonline.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:45:58 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale 


Seems like a must! I'll definitely drop by. Thanks as always! 

Cheers, 
Aaron R. 
Admiral Maggie, 
19 79 CC 30 MK1 #540 
Annapolis, MD 



Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:12:05 -0400 
From: nausetbe...@optonline.net 
Subject: RE: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale 
To: admiralmag...@outlook.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 



Aaron, 



The sale is 10% off everything in the Defender catalogue and that is the same 
whether you order online or buy at the warehouse and take it with you. The 
warehouse is less than 60 minutes from New Haven and IMO it is worth making the 
trip if you can. Eliminating the $ for shipping, especially important for 
heavier or bulky items, can make it worthwhile though you will pay CT sales tax 
of 6.35%. Just the savings on bottom paint can make the drive worthwhile. Any / 
everything else is then gravy. 



The warehouse is a zoo especially on Thursday and Saturday mornings of the 
sale. Anything not in stock has to be shipped, though they usually have most 
things. One year I placed an order for a halyard with the rigging shop when I 
arrived and it was ready by the time I was ready to check out. 



The “flea sale / seconds / clearance” section and the manufacturers’ reps 
section can also yield great finds / information. 



Brian 




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:23 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale 





Are any listers planning to go to Defender's warehouse sale this weekend? Is it 
worth going? I'll be in New Haven's area this weekend and trying to decide if I 
should drop by... 


Cheers, 


Aaron R. 


Admiral Maggie, 


1979 CC 30 MK1 #540 


Annapolis, MD 

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