Re: Stus-List Potable water fittings.
We also have this same Gardena 4 way Manifold. Ken H. On 28 May 2015 at 12:45, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have the same Gardenia 4 way manifold with the same labels on my 89 30-2. Must have come from the factory that way? On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:28 AM Mitchell's via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Josh, The valve on our 37+ was made by Gardenia and its a 4-1 if that helps. (I converted the port side fresh water tank to a holding tank for the Great Lakes, we have lots of room with two holding tanks.) Tom, it hasn't been said yet, and you probably already know but there is a Quest compression fitting end that goes on the plastic pipe with a SS ring and you can tighten the nut down pretty tight! The nut squeaks all the way tight and will take quite a bit of abuse. The plumbing is not in the sunlight and will last decades. If I was going to change it up and had a pile of spare cash to burn, I would go Pex too. They can use a two wrench snug but not very often. RVs have been using it forever too. Len Crazy Legs 1989 37+ Sent from my mobile device.___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List *****SPAM***** Re: Hull# (HIN) for 34+?
I don't think it was ever valid. It was just ignored. Means the same thing as a smiley face. :-) Bill Bina On 5/28/2015 8:41 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote: We had a + on our 34+ hin. What is invalid today may have been fine in 1990. John Sent from my iPad On May 28, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A quick search of the United States Coast Guard's Port State Information eXchange (PSIX) system reveals several (actually 27) CC 34+ with similar HIN (Hull Numbers). You can search here: http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx The wild card symbol in a search on that site is the percent symbol % So do a search for ZCC34+% to see the results. Ken H. On 28 May 2015 at 09:01, David Pulaski via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just had a survey done on a '90 34+ yesterday, looks good but one bit of weirdness: the HIN has a + symbol in it, which HIN decoders say is invalid. The HIN starts off ZCC34+ Can anyone else with a 34+ verify that this is what their HIN looks like? Thanks! -Dave ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for AH small hatches?
Just to follow up on this for future reference, it turned out the hatch foam I got from McMaster Carr (#6322K13) was in fact correct (or at least close enough and seems to be working well). Since I thought it was too squishy I ended up doing a second order and getting EPDM o-ring cord stock (#9616K17), at the recommendation of a McMaster Carr customer support person. Installed that and found out it was way too firm - the hatch wouldn't close because the metal edges actually need to insert into the foam-filled track. Doh! Had to rip that out and clean out the glue, then installed the original santoprene foam order. Seems to be working well. In this process I also discovered one hatch latch is broken - 316 SS bolt completely corroded away / disintegrated. So added a project to the list in the process of fixing one - that seems to be a way of life with boats. : ) On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Patrick Davin jda...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I think I messed things up already. My McMaster Carr foam cord arrived this week and it's much more squishy and soft than I expected. I got the weather-resistant high-temperature santoprene foam (part #6322K13) because they sell it in 10' lengths ($7.70) and it sounded similar to the other foam on that page (which is only sold in 100' lengths for $33). The foam compresses under my finger down to the height of the hatch groove (flush with the surface) which doesn't seem like it will make a seal. http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=183 http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=184 I guess I should've gotten the weather resistant EPDM foam (part #8605K43). Now I'll have 100' when I only need 6'. So if anyone near Seattle needs some foam cord, just let me know! -Patrick 1984 LF38 S/V Violet Hour Seattle, WA On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Patrick Davin jda...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the quick replies! It sounds like McMaster is the easiest way to go. Hammerhead also has the solid round neoprene gasket but don't have online ordering. Good to have as an option too though. I think the side hatches are probably 3/8. 1/2 sounds like it'd only be the large hatches. I'll measure before ordering. Bob, I did read your hatch post a few weeks ago actually - I'll use that to guide the cleaning + sealing. However you did the large hatches (fore and cabin) and I don't think I have those same hatches. The side hatches I sent pics of are definitely original, but the large hatches look like Lewmar. They don't have any leak issues so far that I can tell. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Robert Boyer dainyr...@icloud.com wrote: I replaced my hatch gaskets with 5/8-inch round gasket material and it wouldn't fit properly in the grooves in the hatch frame and I couldn't close the hatches without breaking something--so, I went back to 1/2-inch as it was originally designed. (I've described this on one of my blogposts.) When the hatch seals age, the rubber gets hard and brittle and no longer is elastic enough to make the seal--its not a bad design. Mine were 30+ years old when I replaced them. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I know this question came up in 2006 ( http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2006-May/002846.html ), but that's 9 years ago and the story may have changed since then. I'm getting to work on a few leaks in our boat, and the galley + head hatches (LF38) come first. The previous thread recommended Clean Seal, or direct from Atkins Hoyle (for the more expensive option). I had trouble finding the part # on Clean Seal though. Are those two still the best options? Here's are some pics of the galley hatch: http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=181 http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=179 http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=180 The current gasket material actually doesn't look that bad, it just doesn't seat well - so unless I'm very careful to cram it in the right spots we get leaks. I almost wonder whether it's just the wrong size/shape for the hatch? Would something like the Bomar Hatch gasket material (5/8 in an extruded format or 9/16 in round) on Defender possibly work? http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165id=1230878 -Patrick 1984 LF38 S/V Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go
Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30
Think about it a moment. You set mast rake with the boat in the water. By definition she is sitting on her lines and it doesn’t really matter if she is trimmed stern high or stern low. Gravity points straight down, so the plumb bob (weight on the end of the main halyard) hangs straight down and if you measure 6” of rake, you have the mast slanted 6” aft of vertical. In the days of square riggers, and on more modern topsail schooners, it is common to trim the boat so it is down slightly at the stern. It is supposed to make the boat faster; I suppose that could be because the press of canvas when going downwind would push the bow down. I can’t think of a hydrodynamic reason a boat down at the stern would be faster than a boat sitting with the bottom level, but there may be one. Among the things I acquired when I bought my 38 was some of her ratings information from IOR racing in the 70s, and an article from a Canadian sailing magazine about the 38-1 race boats and how to optimize them for tonnage racing. Seems the 38-1 was designed to be slightly down at the bow – I presume so the weight of crew would bring her back to level in racing trim. And one of the tips in the magazine article was to add 100 pounds of ballast forward (I don’t recall the exact spot that was recommended) to accentuate the resting condition – and pick up a couple of tenths of rating points. Which is not really related to the discussion of mast rake. Just thought it might be interesting since the discussion is drifting toward hull trim. Rick Brass Imzadi CC 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore CC 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William Hall via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:59 PM To: cnc-list Cc: William Hall Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30 Seems to me that if the boat normally sails stern-low, it moves the center of effort aft and has the same effect as raking the mast on a level boat... On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think the initial tuning of about 8 of rake, usually done by hanging a weight on the main halyard, is a reference assuming the boat is sitting level in the water. At least a few of the CC 30-1 I have looked at are stern heavy, some by a couple of inches. I suspect that will add some to the rake that would not be there if the boot strip and water surface were parallel. Under sail with crew on board the boat may sit properly. Given that people have reported noticing a change in weather helm from even a modest adjustment of rake the error in initial tuning by having the stern 2 low might be significant. A couple of weeks ago while out for practice starts we flew a heavy wind #1 ( a flatter cut ) and full main. Winds were 18 - 22 kts, gusts to 30. It was the wrong amount of sail to have up but the helm was fine. Eased the vang a bit and left some twist in the main, kept the #1 flat. With the boat level I have about 6 of rake. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- William D. Hall, Ph.D. 617 620 9078 (c) wh...@alum.mit.edu mailto:wh...@alum.mit.edu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash
Is Alcare a wax or cleaner?RonWild CheriCC 30-1STL From: dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash for Awlgripped hulls there is nothing better than Alcare Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:03 PM, schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well, after glassing in the rudder support, installing a new Garhauer Marine Traveler and mainsheet system, washing and shining the topsides and finally today slapping on bottom paint, I have a splash date for Thursday at 9 am. No real hurry, the water temperature at the South Haven Buoy just made 50 degrees (F) yesterday. Cleaning the boat was done with Aurora Boat Wash and polishing was with Aurora Boat Shine. Still like the Aurora products. Older list members might remember when Richard Kittar was active on the list. He is still with Aurora. I think that we are ready to go. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair South Haven, Michigan ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
Persistence came with BG H1000 instruments. Wind, Speed and depth. They were functioning. However. The displays were losing what I call raster lines and were dim and difficult to read at night unless looking straight on. I wished to purchase newer displays. With BG the newer models are not compatible with the older ones. This seems to be a common thread with BG and on top of that they are expensive. We use Raymarine on the boat we typically race (a CC 115). They work very well with the only issue being the wiring clips on the backs of the instruments which need replacing frequently. The same Raymarine instruments are on our friends CC 99 on which we frequently sail. Again they worked flawlessly. On our previous boat the J27 Nut Case we also had Raymarine (actually one of the instruments was Raytheon). ST60 on all of the boats. Previous to that we had ST40 on our Niagara 26 – both the bidata and the wind. In all cases the instruments were robust, easy to read and easy to use. The instruments that I refer to are the Speed, Depth and wind.On Persistence we have also the Raymarine ST6002 autopilot. All work very well and there is a nice level of crossover support between the Raymarine products of different years. Not so much with BG We decided to replace the BG Speed depth and wind with Raymarine i50 i60. Again they are easy to use and easy to read. I liked the robust look and feel of the ST60 series better particularly how they screw on to bulkhead or instrument cluster. This is IMO a major FAIL on the newer Raymarine but that is the only one. The BG that these replaced is now on a CC 33-2. Literally on a shelf in a box I believe. I am sure that Greg reads this list so he may chime in at some point These are only my opinions. Raymarine to me is great. BG more expensive and less compatible across model lines and model years Mike Persistence Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:12 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? I've installed BG on a couple boats and they seem to work fine. I have Nexus (NX2) instruments on Touche' and love them. I like the easily customized multidisplays. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
I've installed BG on a couple boats and they seem to work fine. I have Nexus (NX2) instruments on Touche' and love them. I like the easily customized multidisplays. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com To: Robert Hrabinsky rph2m...@yahoo.com, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:33:46 -0300 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338 ...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng cable. Ken H. On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 CC 30 MKII Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com To: Robert Hrabinsky rph2m...@yahoo.com, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:33:46 -0300 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338 ...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng cable. Ken H. On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 CC 30 MKII Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
I'll second Fred's comments about the i70; it has worked well for us...Fred was very helpful, ( and patient with all of my questions) in getting the system up and running... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net Sent: Fri, May 29, 2015 1:34 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
Thanks, Richard! And for those who don’t know it, Lloyd Lippe from the list (and another lister for whom I’ve done design work and sold equipment) is getting ready to take his Landfall 39 out to bluewater next week, with all his new Raymarine toys aboard. He’s probably too busy getting prepped to go to respond; but Lloyd: Fair Winds, and Following Seas. Send us an email when you get to Key West. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll second Fred's comments about the i70; it has worked well for us...Fred was very helpful, ( and patient with all of my questions) in getting the system up and running... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash
AwlCare is the polish. AwlWash is the cleaner. I use both. Nice products. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is Alcare a wax or cleaner? Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 STL -- *From:* dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:10 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash for Awlgripped hulls there is nothing better than Alcare Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:03 PM, schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well, after glassing in the rudder support, installing a new Garhauer Marine Traveler and mainsheet system, washing and shining the topsides and finally today slapping on bottom paint, I have a splash date for Thursday at 9 am. No real hurry, the water temperature at the South Haven Buoy just made 50 degrees (F) yesterday. Cleaning the boat was done with Aurora Boat Wash and polishing was with Aurora Boat Shine. Still like the Aurora products. Older list members might remember when Richard Kittar was active on the list. He is still with Aurora. I think that we are ready to go. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair South Haven, Michigan ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List mast step redo on a 30-1
I used oak last time and didn't seal the ends as well as I thought I had. Water intrusion was noticeable. What also happened was that the oak started bending until finally it was too low for the rig to tighten well.I replaced with a mexican hardwood, very oily, that they use for fenceposts that last over a hundred years. I believe it was called pay-la (phonetic spelling). It's like ironwood in that it's more dense than water; it sinks. A real pain to cut and shape. Broke a band saw tire and went through many sabre saw blades.While at it, I fitted a third support for the mast step out of some extra. That should prevent any future bending in the middle.RonWild CheriCC 30-1STL From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nate Flesness nateflesn...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:12 AM Subject: Stus-List mast step redo on a 30-1 I'll soon have the mast out of my 1980 30-1 (for relocating her by truck) and want toforestall future mast step issues by redoing/strengtheningit now. The mast was last out 8 years ago. I've never pulled the oak mast step base plate, so don't know what to anticipate underneath. Advice welcome, pictures very welcome. I'm imagining figuring out the necessary drainage and keel bolt access, then using epoxy-saturated oak board or McMaster Carr fiberglass sheets to built a new support step, and maybe filling in what I hear is a large empty area with micro-balloon slurry? She's an all-freshwater boat which sits in a cradle 7 months a year, which may be why its lasted this long with no signs of trouble yet. Nate FlesnessSarah Jean1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay MarinaLake Superior ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 112, Issue 80
James — I emailed you off-list, but haven’t heard back; maybe I ended up in the spam folder. I have a Yanmar panel that may work for you. Contact me off-list if you’re interested in more info. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 26, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: James -- I may have a replacement panel for you. Let me check tonight. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 26, 2015, at 11:19 AM, James Montague via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yanmar TYPE B Control panel. The engine stop push pull that was attached to the Yanmar panel had its last pull recently. The panel became too brittle to withstand the leverage and hey presto. Has anyone experienced the same? We are looking to find a replacement panel or a new panel and relocate the engine stop lever elsewhere, perhaps the pedestal. Appreciate any help/insight on this James CC 34 1982 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash
And if needed to bring back the color Awlgrip recommends Finesse by 3M. Awlwash before and after using Finesse. Then apply Awlcare. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 10:12:10 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: capt...@gmail.com AwlCare is the polish. AwlWash is the cleaner. I use both. Nice products. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is Alcare a wax or cleaner?RonWild CheriCC 30-1STL From: dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ready to Splash for Awlgripped hulls there is nothing better than AlcareDwight VeinotCC 35 MKII, AliannaHead of St. Margaret's Bay, nsd.ve...@bellaliant.net On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:03 PM, schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well, after glassing in the rudder support, installing a new Garhauer Marine Traveler and mainsheet system, washing and shining the topsides and finally today slapping on bottom paint, I have a splash date for Thursday at 9 am. No real hurry, the water temperature at the South Haven Buoy just made 50 degrees (F) yesterday. Cleaning the boat was done with Aurora Boat Wash and polishing was with Aurora Boat Shine. Still like the Aurora products. Older list members might remember when Richard Kittar was active on the list. He is still with Aurora. I think that we are ready to go. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair South Haven, Michigan ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
Thanks Fred, that's helpful. Things are slowly becoming clearer to me. (and I'm leaning a bit back towards Raymarine) I called Ray tech support back today and they said they have a new guy ramping up so that might be who I talked to yesterday. Mark (tech guy today) said i70 will work fine standalone with nmea transducers (smart in Raymarine lingo). The other concern I had was the i70 install manual shows transducer pods in the systems diagram, and some Raymarine documentation seemed to say they're required. And I'd hate to have more connections than necessary, plus extra parts that can potentially break. He said that's old, they're deprecated and have been replaced by the iTC-5 (which you only need if you have analog transducers). On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:33:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List MkV Pintle and Gudgeons
Good day. I'm noticing year after year there is more and more play in my transom hung rudder. The 27 MkV has some pretty heavy duty hardware which I believe we're made by Schaefer. I'd like to replace them. My web search is leading me nowhere useful. Has anyone replaced theirs and what did you use. Cheers Brent Driedger 27 MkV Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List MkV Pintle and Gudgeons
I would try nylon bushings before replacing. Had them on my Rhodes 19. Jerry. 27mkv. JJ Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good day. I'm noticing year after year there is more and more play in my transom hung rudder. The 27 MkV has some pretty heavy duty hardware which I believe we're made by Schaefer. I'd like to replace them. My web search is leading me nowhere useful. Has anyone replaced theirs and what did you use. Cheers Brent Driedger 27 MkV Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New instruments?
Hi Patrick, I have the ST70 control head (seatalk) for my autopilot, predecessor to the I70, recently added a triducer for speed, depth, temp. No additional boxes needed. Just plugged into the backbone. Away we went. I also have my Standard Horizon chartplotter plugged into the NMEA 0187 connection on the X10 autopilot control box. Works great. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: Fri, May 29, 2015 10:34To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Frederick G Street;Subject:Re: Stus-List New instruments?Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -PatrickCC 38 LF Violet HourSeattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List New instruments?
I have 2 BG Tritons on either side of the companion way and a Zeus 2 at the helm. They rock! I have had them for 2 seasons now, No issues. The Triton are easily customizable, have cool stuff like wind shift / depth graphs over time, nice wind rose, etc, etc. The Zeus 2 is da bomb. it will control everything from radar to audio, has all the metrics like VMG on mark / VMG on Wind, sailing time to mark, a really cool 'Sailsteer' wind rose / the ability to dynamically show the laylines on the chart based on wind direction-speed / current / boat direction-speed /tide.. Etc, etc. Also the touchscreen is very responsive, even works with gloves. With the wifi module and a wifi connection the Zeus 2 can even update itself straight of the internet and get / update your maps as well. You can get XM music / dynamic weather for US and the Caribbean too. All is NMEA 2000 standard, no proprietary Raymarine Seatalk this or that to worry about. Any NMEA 2000 compliant sensor / stereo / gauge will work just fine. So Jake, is it the new Blues Mobile or what? -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA Stus-List New instruments? This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Does it have the fancy microphone? (reference to Blues Brothers movie) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard; jda...@gmail.com Subject: Stus-List New instruments? I have 2 BG Tritons on either side of the companion way and a Zeus 2 at the helm. They rock! I have had them for 2 seasons now, No issues. The Triton are easily customizable, have cool stuff like wind shift / depth graphs over time, nice wind rose, etc, etc. The Zeus 2 is da bomb. it will control everything from radar to audio, has all the metrics like VMG on mark / VMG on Wind, sailing time to mark, a really cool 'Sailsteer' wind rose / the ability to dynamically show the laylines on the chart based on wind direction-speed / current / boat direction-speed /tide.. Etc, etc. Also the touchscreen is very responsive, even works with gloves. With the wifi module and a wifi connection the Zeus 2 can even update itself straight of the internet and get / update your maps as well. You can get XM music / dynamic weather for US and the Caribbean too. All is NMEA 2000 standard, no proprietary Raymarine Seatalk this or that to worry about. Any NMEA 2000 compliant sensor / stereo / gauge will work just fine. So Jake, is it the new Blues Mobile or what? -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA Stus-List New instruments? This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
