Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
The one caveat I know of regarding using oil based head lube goes with using a bioactive product for reducing odors. I have been using KO (Kills Odors) and CP (Cleans Potties) now sold by Raritan, for over 20 years. An oil lube will do exactly what Andy and Tim described. The bioactive ingredients need plenty of air/ventilation to work correctly. I have two vents in Calypso’s 40 gal holding tank. I used the CP product as Calypso’s head lube as it is compatible with the bioactive KO. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tim Goodyear Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.commailto:a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858tel:%28416%29%20203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I pump some 50/50 ethylene glycol/water mixture (same as I use for winterizing) thru it ocaisionally, letting it sit unused overnight and all winter during storage...mine is an electric unit that is now about 6 years old and still cranking smooth...sometimes during the summer I also treat it gently with 5 or 10 mL of baby oil Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I've always used 1 tbsp olive oil with success. Nate On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I've used the West Marine head lube with success. The joker valve on my W-C head was acting up and, at the advice of some of the listers, instead of a new head or rebuild kit, I went with the lube. It worked and is still working. Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
On the subject, I was told by a sanitation mechanic to use about about a tablespoon of mineral oil. So far all seems good. Lloyd Lippe Finesse Landfall 39 From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List head question-lubrication
So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous -- September 11-13, 2015 -- Clinton, CT
Edd, We hope to attend, but if it's honking out of the west the week before, I doubt we'll make it. If possible, I would like to let you know a week before. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, I am proud to announce the *CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous* in Eastern Long Island Sound (Clinton, CT) at the Cedar Island Marina — September 11-13, 2015 - Private Floating Dock Just for Us! - Pool / Rec Room / Picnic Area / Hot Tub / Ships’ Store / Laundry Facilities / Fuel Dock / Etc. See: http://cnc2015.com/marina.png - Meet Other CC Owners and Tour Other’s Boats** - Spouse Shuttle to Outlet Mall - BYO Pot Luck Dinner on First Night / Private Buffet Dinner on Second Night at Waterfront Seafood Restaurant - Cigar and Rum/Whiskey Tasting (hosted by Rob Gallagher) - Close to Train, Shopping, Marine Supplies, Casino - Great Giveaways - Special Surprise Guest Information and Registration can be found at: http://cnc2015.com. Reservations can only be submitted through the website (we will handle your dock reservation, dinners, etc.) We are looking forward to seeing you there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ** Including a good look at a new Beta 30 diesel engine installed in a CC 37+ :) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous -- September 11-13, 2015 -- Clinton, CT
Listers, I am proud to announce the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous in Eastern Long Island Sound (Clinton, CT) at the Cedar Island Marina — September 11-13, 2015 Private Floating Dock Just for Us! Pool / Rec Room / Picnic Area / Hot Tub / Ships’ Store / Laundry Facilities / Fuel Dock / Etc. See: http://cnc2015.com/marina.png http://cnc2015.com/marina.png Meet Other CC Owners and Tour Other’s Boats** Spouse Shuttle to Outlet Mall BYO Pot Luck Dinner on First Night / Private Buffet Dinner on Second Night at Waterfront Seafood Restaurant Cigar and Rum/Whiskey Tasting (hosted by Rob Gallagher) Close to Train, Shopping, Marine Supplies, Casino Great Giveaways Special Surprise Guest Information and Registration can be found at: http://cnc2015.com http://cnc2015.com/. Reservations can only be submitted through the website (we will handle your dock reservation, dinners, etc.) We are looking forward to seeing you there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ** Including a good look at a new Beta 30 diesel engine installed in a CC 37+ :) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous -- September 11-13, 2015 -- Clinton, CT
Andrew, The reservation cut-off date is September 3rd, which is the week before. We hope to see you there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Edd, We hope to attend, but if it's honking out of the west the week before, I doubt we'll make it. If possible, I would like to let you know a week before. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, I am proud to announce the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous in Eastern Long Island Sound (Clinton, CT) at the Cedar Island Marina — September 11-13, 2015 Private Floating Dock Just for Us! Pool / Rec Room / Picnic Area / Hot Tub / Ships’ Store / Laundry Facilities / Fuel Dock / Etc. See: http://cnc2015.com/marina.png http://cnc2015.com/marina.png Meet Other CC Owners and Tour Other’s Boats** Spouse Shuttle to Outlet Mall BYO Pot Luck Dinner on First Night / Private Buffet Dinner on Second Night at Waterfront Seafood Restaurant Cigar and Rum/Whiskey Tasting (hosted by Rob Gallagher) Close to Train, Shopping, Marine Supplies, Casino Great Giveaways Special Surprise Guest Information and Registration can be found at: http://cnc2015.com http://cnc2015.com/. Reservations can only be submitted through the website (we will handle your dock reservation, dinners, etc.) We are looking forward to seeing you there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ** Including a good look at a new Beta 30 diesel engine installed in a CC 37+ :) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
th great thing about this list is you learn better approaches to things every day! Thanks Nate On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The one caveat I know of regarding using oil based head lube goes with using a bioactive product for reducing odors. I have been using KO (Kills Odors) and CP (Cleans Potties) now sold by Raritan, for over 20 years. An oil lube will do exactly what Andy and Tim described. The bioactive ingredients need plenty of air/ventilation to work correctly. I have two vents in Calypso’s 40 gal holding tank. I used the CP product as Calypso’s head lube as it is compatible with the bioactive KO. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Goodyear via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:32 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Tim Goodyear *Subject:* Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 2015 northeast rendezvous
This looks Fantastic! Nice work Captain Kirk. However, the only reason I'm showing up is to dance with Dave again. http://cnc2015.com/ Rob ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous -- September 11-13, 2015 -- Clinton, CT
It's a good thing our rendezvouses don't happen at the same time so we're splitting the fleet. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 July 2015 at 17:47, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd Many, many thanks for organizing this great event. We are not able to attend (much as we would like to) due to other family commitments. Have fun and raise a glass for the good ship Legacy John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 CC 34 Noank, CT -- [image: Avast logo] http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Intimidating Music (hee hee)
I got told by the RC at the end of a race in Montreal as I passed the finish line “If we knew you were racing, we would have brought a calendar.” No respect at all. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC INDIGO LF38 Boatless! On Jul 15, 2015, at 17:54, mike amirault via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I prefer to say nothing at the start; just smile and wave. A few years ago, when I was racing my Mirage 25 boat for boat against another Mirage 25, a young chap yelled over that they were gonna kick my ass. After the race was over and they were beaten by about 20 min. they sailed past my mooring. I yelled over hey Matt, I tried to hail you on the VHF but you must have been out of range, then I tried your cell but the recording said I would have to pay long distance charges He was quiter next race. MUCH quieter. ;) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous -- September 11-13, 2015 -- Clinton, CT
Hi Edd Many, many thanks for organizing this great event. We are not able to attend (much as we would like to) due to other family commitments. Have fun and raise a glass for the good ship Legacy John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 CC 34 Noank, CT --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
