Re: Stus-List Howling rigging
I bought a 33 MK II in Toronto last fall and there was a loud hum. The hum was there on Toronto Island where I pick her up and at a marina on the mainland. I asked the owner about it and he said I have never heard that before and I thought what have I just bought myself. When I launched her in Sarnia this spring, no hum so I am assuming it was tensioning of the stays and shroud John on Enterprise ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List mast tuning
David, Check out the article Rod Rigging -- Generic Tuning by Greg Cutter in the Do It Yourself section of the CC Photo Album and Resource Center. I'm going through the same process after re-stepping the mast on my 34+ this spring. Monty Scandia 1991 CC 34+ Annapolis, MD On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I took a good look at my furler, mast, shrouds and stays yesterday preparatory to trying to do some mast tuning. I am unsure as to the best way of going about this process and could use some advice. I found that I was raked somewhere between 18 and 24 inches aft, which is much too far by all accounts, so I want to bring the mast back to 6-12 inches. I have read the guides, but it is the specifics of different mast/shroud/stay combinations is what I am unsure about. It was more straightforward on my previous 34. My mast has no adjustment possible at the base or through deck unlike my old one. As near as I can tell, it is all done with shrouds and stays. The backstay is a split wire with a pinching car that runs up and down to control backstay tension. The backstay wires runs to two turnbuckles on the transom. The spreaders are only slightly swept back but the rod shrouds run to a position just behind the mast. One runs to the top of the mast and the other part way up, both passing through the same point on the lower spreader. The top ones are extremely tight, with no flex/sag on the leeward side when sailing upwind. The lowers are a bit less tight but still no sag. There is a third rod, which I am forgetting where it terminates on the mast, but presumably lower down. Forestay is on a Harken furler. So how to proceed (or wait for the Rendezvous and get all the great minds together for a tuning session!) 1. Should I disconnect the backstay before doing anything with the shrouds? The car on the split stay can only go so high without running out of wire, so even at its topmost position, it is putting some tension on the backstay. I can tie another line to it and let it run up further but it makes more sense to me to remove them altogether or loosen the turnbuckles as much as possible. 2. Presumably, I would then loosen all the shrouds and then tighten the bolt on the furler to bring the mast forward, then recheck rake after tightening the shrouds somewhat? 3. After adjusting rake, how would the tension of the backstay be adjusted? Presumably minimal tension with the car at its topmost position? The tightness of those turnbuckles is going to affect the amount of tension the adjuster is able to generate, so that would seem an important adjustment, but I have not seen any guide to how to set that. 4. When to check the rake? With the backstay loose/disconnected or in its nominal highest position? 5. One thought I have had is that before doing any of the above actions, I should recheck the rake with the backstay removed just to see if it makes any significant difference. I know they were removed to take the boat out of the water last fall and again in the spring, so how the yard guys re-tensioned them I have no idea and I have not further adjusted them. Thanks- Dave Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Howling rigging
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n von Karman was Hungarian. I spent many hours in an auditorium named after him at JPL. Leslie. On Sat, 8/1/15, Don Wagner via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner don.wag...@verizon.net Date: Saturday, August 1, 2015, 6:40 AM The vibrations and the singing noises that you have observed are classical examples of vortex shedding. They were originally described by a German fluid dynamics engineer, Theodore von Karmann. If you are interested, do a search on “vortex shedding”. Wikipeda has a good description of the phenomena with some pix. You might also search “ von Karmann vortex street” I’ve experienced it in my rigging, and occasionally from my centerboard at certain wind speeds or boat speeds Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Had a similar hum while coming back from Newport. The engineer on board put a clothes pin on the shroud to change the harmonics. Worked for several hours. Joel On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't listen to him, Jim. I can tell he's just making things up. The name was Peat and we don't have pints of rum... maybe a litre or two. And to settle the ghost, try hoisting a fender alongside the mast about half way up. You will be amazed how it can settle the rig if you have oscillation. I had to do just that at the Boho Bash, 4 weeks ago. Go ogle vortex breaker. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:56 PM 31/07/2015, you wrote: Dennis, where the hell did you come up with that? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 July 2015 at 21:04, Dennis C. via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: It's the ghost of Penelakut Pete. He drowned in Clam Bay when he fell overboard after consuming a few pints of rum. Legend says he only comes out on breezy nights. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: On our latest trip north, we anchored in Clam Bay and had a strange problem. At a certain wind speed, the shrouds would start to hum, sometimes making the boat shake with vibration. The major vibration was felt in the small rod running to the underside of the upper spreaders and in the mast and backstay. I backed each shroud one off half a turn and it really didn't do much except make those shrouds look loose to me, but I'm sure I can't tell the difference of 1/128th of an inch. It eventually faded as the wind dropped. For the next ten days, in all sorts of conditions, we didn't hear it, but when we anchored in the same bay 10 days later, we got it again. Any explanation except witchcraft?  Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Howling rigging
Oops! Thanks for the correction Leslie. Being an EE, not a ME or fluids guy I should be more careful. I worked at APL and our auditorium is named after a not so famous scientist. Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n von Karman was Hungarian. I spent many hours in an auditorium named after him at JPL. Leslie. On Sat, 8/1/15, Don Wagner via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner don.wag...@verizon.net Date: Saturday, August 1, 2015, 6:40 AM The vibrations and the singing noises that you have observed are classical examples of vortex shedding. They were originally described by a German fluid dynamics engineer, Theodore von Karmann. If you are interested, do a search on “vortex shedding”. Wikipeda has a good description of the phenomena with some pix. You might also search “ von Karmann vortex street” I’ve experienced it in my rigging, and occasionally from my centerboard at certain wind speeds or boat speeds Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Had a similar hum while coming back from Newport. The engineer on board put a clothes pin on the shroud to change the harmonics. Worked for several hours. Joel On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't listen to him, Jim. I can tell he's just making things up. The name was Peat and we don't have pints of rum... maybe a litre or two. And to settle the ghost, try hoisting a fender alongside the mast about half way up. You will be amazed how it can settle the rig if you have oscillation. I had to do just that at the Boho Bash, 4 weeks ago. Go ogle vortex breaker. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:56 PM 31/07/2015, you wrote: Dennis, where the hell did you come up with that? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 July 2015 at 21:04, Dennis C. via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: It's the ghost of Penelakut Pete. He drowned in Clam Bay when he fell overboard after consuming a few pints of rum. Legend says he only comes out on breezy nights. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: On our latest trip north, we anchored in Clam Bay and had a strange problem. At a certain wind speed, the shrouds would start to hum, sometimes making the boat shake with vibration. The major vibration was felt in the small rod running to the underside of the upper spreaders and in the mast and backstay. I backed each shroud one off half a turn and it really didn't do much except make those shrouds look loose to me, but I'm sure I can't tell the difference of 1/128th of an inch. It eventually faded as the wind dropped. For the next ten days, in all sorts of conditions, we didn't hear it, but when we anchored in the same bay 10 days later, we got it again. Any explanation except witchcraft?  Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list
Stus-List CC Rendezvous
Years ago when I owned a CC, I was fortunate enough to attend (and help organize) rendezvous for CC Owners. Included events took us to both the East and West coasts as well as several on the Great Lakes. Many of the events are still fresh in memory and will not be forgotten. It is a chance of a lifetime to put faces on names you see everyday, listen to some fantastic sailing experiences and view first hand the custom modifications owners have made on their CC Yachts. It is not an easy job planning these events and many, many hours are spent making things go right – from securing a place to hold it, organizing a schedule and meals to suit everyone and praying nightly to King Neptune for great weather. Don’t think twice about going – just go and enjoy the familiar camaraderie that CC owners are famous for. Take the family as I am sure there is something for everybody. All the best to the organizers – you deserve a lot credit for your efforts. Stu___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Refrigerator Fan...
Well, this was a bit of installation hoopla G but it works great. I have one in the fridge and another in the freezer. http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/galley/pipefan/index.htm Wal David wrote: My new refrigeration is doing quite well. However I would like to better circulate air within the box to equalize temps. Trying to avoid hard wiring and want to know if anyone has found a low amp battery powered fan that I can turn on when needed without a lot installation hoopla... Thanks in advance. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List anti- skid pattern 35mkI
Hello everyone. Redoing deck on Freya IV. Does anyone have the original anti skid pattern. My boat had previously been painted with a roller and I can't tell the original pattern. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. Original Message From: Don Wagner via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 2:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Oops! Thanks for the correction Leslie. Being an EE, not a ME or fluids guy I should be more careful. I worked at APL and our auditorium is named after a not so famous scientist. Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie Torkin Manes LLP Barristers Solicitors This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s)above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n von Karman was Hungarian. I spent many hours in an auditorium named after him at JPL. Leslie. On Sat, 8/1/15, Don Wagner via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner don.wag...@verizon.net Date: Saturday, August 1, 2015, 6:40 AM The vibrations and the singing noises that you have observed are classical examples of vortex shedding. They were originally described by a German fluid dynamics engineer, Theodore von Karmann. If you are interested, do a search on “vortex shedding”. Wikipeda has a good description of the phenomena with some pix. You might also search “ von Karmann vortex street” I’ve experienced it in my rigging, and occasionally from my centerboard at certain wind speeds or boat speeds Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Had a similar hum while coming back from Newport. The engineer on board put a clothes pin on the shroud to change the harmonics. Worked for several hours. Joel On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't listen to him, Jim. I can tell he's just making things up. The name was Peat and we don't have pints of rum... maybe a litre or two. And to settle the ghost, try hoisting a fender alongside the mast about half way up. You will be amazed how it can settle the rig if you have oscillation. I had to do just that at the Boho Bash, 4 weeks ago. Go ogle vortex breaker. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:56 PM 31/07/2015, you wrote: Dennis, where the hell did you come up with that? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 July 2015 at 21:04, Dennis C. via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: It's the ghost of Penelakut Pete. He drowned in Clam Bay when he fell overboard after consuming a few pints of rum. Legend says he only comes out on breezy nights. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: On our latest trip north, we anchored in Clam Bay and had a strange problem. At a certain wind speed, the shrouds would start to hum, sometimes making the boat shake with vibration. The major vibration was felt in the small rod running to the underside of the upper spreaders and in the mast and backstay. I backed each shroud one off half a turn and it really didn't do much except make those shrouds look loose to me, but I'm sure I can't tell the difference of 1/128th of an inch. It eventually faded as the wind dropped. For the next ten days, in all sorts of conditions, we didn't hear it, but when we anchored in the same bay 10 days later, we got it again. Any explanation except witchcraft?  Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ Email address: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List anti- skid pattern 35mkI
Glen, Touché still has original nonskid pattern but I have no idea how to send it to you. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello everyone. Redoing deck on Freya IV. Does anyone have the original anti skid pattern. My boat had previously been painted with a roller and I can't tell the original pattern. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. Original Message From: Don Wagner via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 2:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Oops! Thanks for the correction Leslie. Being an EE, not a ME or fluids guy I should be more careful. I worked at APL and our auditorium is named after a not so famous scientist. Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie Torkin Manes LLP Barristers Solicitors This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s)above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n von Karman was Hungarian. I spent many hours in an auditorium named after him at JPL. Leslie. On Sat, 8/1/15, Don Wagner via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner don.wag...@verizon.net Date: Saturday, August 1, 2015, 6:40 AM The vibrations and the singing noises that you have observed are classical examples of vortex shedding. They were originally described by a German fluid dynamics engineer, Theodore von Karmann. If you are interested, do a search on “vortex shedding”. Wikipeda has a good description of the phenomena with some pix. You might also search “ von Karmann vortex street” I’ve experienced it in my rigging, and occasionally from my centerboard at certain wind speeds or boat speeds Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Had a similar hum while coming back from Newport. The engineer on board put a clothes pin on the shroud to change the harmonics. Worked for several hours. Joel On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't listen to him, Jim. I can tell he's just making things up. The name was Peat and we don't have pints of rum... maybe a litre or two. And to settle the ghost, try hoisting a fender alongside the mast about half way up. You will be amazed how it can settle the rig if you have oscillation. I had to do just that at the Boho Bash, 4 weeks ago. Go ogle vortex breaker. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:56 PM 31/07/2015, you wrote: Dennis, where the hell did you come up with that? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 July 2015 at 21:04, Dennis C. via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: It's the ghost of Penelakut Pete. He drowned in Clam Bay when he fell overboard after consuming a few pints of rum. Legend says he only comes out on breezy nights. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: On our latest trip north, we anchored in Clam Bay and had a strange problem. At a certain wind speed, the shrouds would start to hum, sometimes making the boat shake with vibration. The major vibration was felt in the small rod running to the underside of the upper spreaders and in the mast and backstay. I backed each shroud one off half a turn and it really didn't do much except make those shrouds look loose to me, but I'm sure I can't tell the difference of 1/128th of an inch. It eventually faded as the wind dropped. For the next ten days, in all sorts of conditions, we didn't hear it, but when we anchored in the same bay 10 days later, we got it again. Any explanation except witchcraft?  Jim Watts
Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation
We are on day two of out annual 3 weeks in the San Juan and Gulf Islands, We'll be in Port Townsend tonight and then working our way to the Rendezvous on Thetis next weekend. If anyone is in the area let me know. You can text me on my cell 305.409.3660 if you're close. Some wierdness with the speed reading on our Raymarine ST60. If I spin it I get a reading but in water reading are either missing or AFU. I'll be testing to see if it is the sender or the head or possible just the wiring. Our AC power cable has developed some sort of skin condition. It feels like someone applied a coating of adhesive to it. The 12' extension we have for it does not have this issue. Anyone have an idea of what the deal is with this? thx Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 Cell (305) 409-3660 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List anti- skid pattern 35mkI
Photo from top of mast? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 August 2015 at 14:01, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Glen, Touché still has original nonskid pattern but I have no idea how to send it to you. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello everyone. Redoing deck on Freya IV. Does anyone have the original anti skid pattern. My boat had previously been painted with a roller and I can't tell the original pattern. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. Original Message From: Don Wagner via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 2:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Oops! Thanks for the correction Leslie. Being an EE, not a ME or fluids guy I should be more careful. I worked at APL and our auditorium is named after a not so famous scientist. Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie Torkin Manes LLP Barristers Solicitors This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s)above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n von Karman was Hungarian. I spent many hours in an auditorium named after him at JPL. Leslie. On Sat, 8/1/15, Don Wagner via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Wagner don.wag...@verizon.net Date: Saturday, August 1, 2015, 6:40 AM The vibrations and the singing noises that you have observed are classical examples of vortex shedding. They were originally described by a German fluid dynamics engineer, Theodore von Karmann. If you are interested, do a search on “vortex shedding”. Wikipeda has a good description of the phenomena with some pix. You might also search “ von Karmann vortex street” I’ve experienced it in my rigging, and occasionally from my centerboard at certain wind speeds or boat speeds Don Wagner CC 41 CB Der Baron From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Howling rigging Had a similar hum while coming back from Newport. The engineer on board put a clothes pin on the shroud to change the harmonics. Worked for several hours. Joel On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't listen to him, Jim. I can tell he's just making things up. The name was Peat and we don't have pints of rum... maybe a litre or two. And to settle the ghost, try hoisting a fender alongside the mast about half way up. You will be amazed how it can settle the rig if you have oscillation. I had to do just that at the Boho Bash, 4 weeks ago. Go ogle vortex breaker. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:56 PM 31/07/2015, you wrote: Dennis, where the hell did you come up with that? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 July 2015 at 21:04, Dennis C. via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: It's the ghost of Penelakut Pete. He drowned in Clam Bay when he fell overboard after consuming a few pints of rum. Legend says he only comes out on breezy nights. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: On our latest trip north, we anchored in Clam Bay and had a strange problem. At a certain wind speed, the shrouds would start to hum, sometimes making the boat shake with vibration. The major vibration was felt in the small rod running to the underside of the upper spreaders and in the mast and backstay. I backed each shroud one off half a turn and it really didn't do much except make those shrouds look loose to me, but I'm sure I can't tell the difference of 1/128th of an inch.
Stus-List Best prop for 34+
It appears that the zincs got replaced on my drive shaft but not my Maxprop!!! Needless to say my prop is shot and I am looking at either another of the same or other options. I am hoping that some one out there with the same or similar boat can weigh in on whether the Maxprop or something else is recommended. I have a 3GM30 and ever since I bought this boat several years ago I have felt there was a bit too much vibration and not enough speed. If I take the engine up to about 2700 rpm’s my boat speed is only around 5 to 5 1/4 knots. The prop has always performed adequately but not great. Maybe the pitch etc. is off. Looking also at the Variprop which supposedly has the least drag of all 3 blades and can be adjusted much easier than the Maxprop. Thoughts, ideas, what are you other 34+ owners using? Thanks, Dave M. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Best prop for 34+
I had the same deal with my MaxProp, except all my zincs fell off. This was before I was Enlightened to dead-blow hammers and critical painting of zincs. It cost $500 US, but the guys at PYI did a great job of rebuilding the prop. Two weeks and half a boat unit is a cheap option. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 August 2015 at 22:24, Dr. David Montgomery via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It appears that the zincs got replaced on my drive shaft but not my Maxprop!!! Needless to say my prop is shot and I am looking at either another of the same or other options. I am hoping that some one out there with the same or similar boat can weigh in on whether the Maxprop or something else is recommended. I have a 3GM30 and ever since I bought this boat several years ago I have felt there was a bit too much vibration and not enough speed. If I take the engine up to about 2700 rpm’s my boat speed is only around 5 to 5 1/4 knots. The prop has always performed adequately but not great. Maybe the pitch etc. is off. Looking also at the Variprop which supposedly has the least drag of all 3 blades and can be adjusted much easier than the Maxprop. Thoughts, ideas, what are you other 34+ owners using? Thanks, Dave M. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Best prop for 34+
Jim, I just dropped my prop off at PYI to be looked over. Mine was still working but one blade was a nasty orange color and the hub had lost a lot of material… though not enough to not keep it together. How bad was yours that was repairable? Dave M. On Aug 2, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I had the same deal with my MaxProp, except all my zincs fell off. This was before I was Enlightened to dead-blow hammers and critical painting of zincs. It cost $500 US, but the guys at PYI did a great job of rebuilding the prop. Two weeks and half a boat unit is a cheap option. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 August 2015 at 22:24, Dr. David Montgomery via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It appears that the zincs got replaced on my drive shaft but not my Maxprop!!! Needless to say my prop is shot and I am looking at either another of the same or other options. I am hoping that some one out there with the same or similar boat can weigh in on whether the Maxprop or something else is recommended. I have a 3GM30 and ever since I bought this boat several years ago I have felt there was a bit too much vibration and not enough speed. If I take the engine up to about 2700 rpm’s my boat speed is only around 5 to 5 1/4 knots. The prop has always performed adequately but not great. Maybe the pitch etc. is off. Looking also at the Variprop which supposedly has the least drag of all 3 blades and can be adjusted much easier than the Maxprop. Thoughts, ideas, what are you other 34+ owners using? Thanks, Dave M. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation
I installed mine backwards once... Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 August 2015 at 18:56, Bill Coleman via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My BG speed has been erratic, slow readings or none - discovered a missing fin on the paddle wheel. Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie (with an incredible light show out over the lake over Canada) Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 08/02/2015 8:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation Hi Tom The ST60 - I had this issue, it was oddly sensitive to direction - by turning the sensor very slightly it would spring into action. Another lister, who will not be named, had the same issue but it was because his (boat) bottom had 1.5 inches of mussel growth on it. The speed wheel would get wet, but that was about it. As for the cord it sounds like the outer skin has age/UV-itis. Does it sit out in the sun a lot? It is a terminal disease, no cure. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-08-02 5:02 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote: We are on day two of out annual 3 weeks in the San Juan and Gulf Islands, We'll be in Port Townsend tonight and then working our way to the Rendezvous on Thetis next weekend. If anyone is in the area let me know. You can text me on my cell 305.409.3660 if you're close. Some wierdness with the speed reading on our Raymarine ST60. If I spin it I get a reading but in water reading are either missing or AFU. I'll be testing to see if it is the sender or the head or possible just the wiring. Our AC power cable has developed some sort of skin condition. It feels like someone applied a coating of adhesive to it. The 12' extension we have for it does not have this issue. Anyone have an idea of what the deal is with this? thx Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 Cell (305) 409-3660 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation
My BG speed has been erratic, slow readings or none - discovered a missing fin on the paddle wheel. Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie(with an incredible light show out over the lake over Canada) Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 08/02/2015 8:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation Hi Tom The ST60 - I had this issue, it was oddly sensitive to direction - by turning the sensor very slightly it would spring into action. Another lister, who will not be named, had the same issue but it was because his (boat) bottom had 1.5 inches of mussel growth on it. The speed wheel would get wet, but that was about it. As for the cord it sounds like the outer skin has age/UV-itis. Does it sit out in the sun a lot? It is a terminal disease, no cure. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-08-02 5:02 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote: We are on day two of out annual 3 weeks in the San Juan and Gulf Islands, We'll be in Port Townsend tonight and then working our way to the Rendezvous on Thetis next weekend. If anyone is in the area let me know. You can text me on my cell 305.409.3660 if you're close. Some wierdness with the speed reading on our Raymarine ST60. If I spin it I get a reading but in water reading are either missing or AFU. I'll be testing to see if it is the sender or the head or possible just the wiring. Our AC power cable has developed some sort of skin condition. It feels like someone applied a coating of adhesive to it. The 12' extension we have for it does not have this issue. Anyone have an idea of what the deal is with this? thx Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 Cell (305) 409-3660 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Summer Cruise, Speed and Sticky Situation
Hi Tom The ST60 - I had this issue, it was oddly sensitive to direction - by turning the sensor very slightly it would spring into action. Another lister, who will not be named, had the same issue but it was because his (boat) bottom had 1.5 inches of mussel growth on it. The speed wheel would get wet, but that was about it. As for the cord it sounds like the outer skin has age/UV-itis. Does it sit out in the sun a lot? It is a terminal disease, no cure. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-08-02 5:02 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote: We are on day two of out annual 3 weeks in the San Juan and Gulf Islands, We'll be in Port Townsend tonight and then working our way to the Rendezvous on Thetis next weekend. If anyone is in the area let me know. You can text me on my cell 305.409.3660 if you're close. Some wierdness with the speed reading on our Raymarine ST60. If I spin it I get a reading but in water reading are either missing or AFU. I'll be testing to see if it is the sender or the head or possible just the wiring. Our AC power cable has developed some sort of skin condition. It feels like someone applied a coating of adhesive to it. The 12' extension we have for it does not have this issue. Anyone have an idea of what the deal is with this? thx Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 Cell (305) 409-3660 www.sv-alera.com http://www.sv-alera.com/ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
