Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[David Lenehan via CnC-List]

This time, as I see it, it hasn't been too bad though clearly
uncomfortable.  Wild Oats XI lost her main in 40 knots of wind.  It's been
much, much worse.  In the 1984 race, 104 retired out of 150 starters.  THAT
was brutal.  We got knocked down three times.

On 27 December 2015 at 16:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> 23 retirements and counting. Brutal.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 26, 2015, David Lenehan via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.
>>
>> David Lenehan
>> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>>
>> On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most
>>> years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on
>>> how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.
>>> The really bad years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight,
>>> sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the
>>> serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those guys and for some
>>> there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it
>>> away after five races (including 1984).
>>>
>>> I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the
>>> supermaxis were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.
>>> At this point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired
>>> (lots of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make
>>> repairs so they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently
>>> beating into a southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.
>>>
>>> Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.
>>>
>>> Hope that update helps,
>>>
>>> David Lenehan
>>> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>>>
>>> On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
 sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.

 http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/

 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

23 retirements and counting. Brutal.

On Saturday, December 26, 2015, David Lenehan via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.
>
> David Lenehan
> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>
> On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most
>> years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on
>> how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.
>> The really bad years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight,
>> sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the
>> serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those guys and for some
>> there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it
>> away after five races (including 1984).
>>
>> I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the
>> supermaxis were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.
>> At this point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired
>> (lots of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make
>> repairs so they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently
>> beating into a southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.
>>
>> Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.
>>
>> Hope that update helps,
>>
>> David Lenehan
>> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>>
>> On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
>>> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>>>
>>> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Free main off of 35/3

[Lee via CnC-List]

Joel,I would like the photo's,thanks. My e-mail is lchris11...@aol.com.
 
 
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Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2015 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Free main off of 35/3


Lee 


It's a Sobstad main. If you send me your email address I can send you a couple 
photos. It is not loose footed and has a new luff rope 


Joel

On Saturday, December 26, 2015, Joel Aronson  wrote:

Lee


It's a Sobstad main. It is not loose footed. Luff rope was replaced. Photos 
attached. 


Joel 

On Wednesday, December 23, 2015, Joel Aronson  wrote:

Lee, 


You aren't going to win any races with it!  I have not used it in a couple 
years.  It is currently buried behind Christmas presents.  I'll pull it out in 
a couple days. 


I believe it has a luff rope (no slides) and is loose footed.  It was the 
better of the two mains that came with the boat.​ I don't recall the name of 
the sailmaker, but it was not North, Quantum or UK.  Probably someone local to 
southern VA where the boat came from.  there is still a sail repair tag on it, 
but I don't remember what was done.




Joel



On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Lee via CnC-List  wrote:

Joel,Iam interested, please let me know the condition. Thanks Lee,35-3.
 
 

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Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2015 1:55 pm
Subject: Stus-List Free main off of 35/3



All,


my new main has arrived.  I have an old but usable dacron main I no longer 
need.  It should fit a 35 or Landfall 38.


Just pay shipping and add battens  Otherwise it will become a duffle bag.



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Re: Stus-List Free main off of 35/3

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Lee

It's a Sobstad main. If you send me your email address I can send you a
couple photos. It is not loose footed and has a new luff rope

Joel

On Saturday, December 26, 2015, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Lee
>
> It's a Sobstad main. It is not loose footed. Luff rope was replaced.
> Photos attached.
>
> Joel
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015, Joel Aronson  > wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>>
>> You aren't going to win any races with it!  I have not used it in a
>> couple years.  It is currently buried behind Christmas presents.  I'll pull
>> it out in a couple days.
>>
>> I believe it has a luff rope (no slides) and is loose footed.  It was the
>> better of the two mains that came with the boat.​ I don't recall the name
>> of the sailmaker, but it was not North, Quantum or UK.  Probably someone
>> local to southern VA where the boat came from.  there is still a sail
>> repair tag on it, but I don't remember what was done.
>>
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Lee via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel,Iam interested, please let me know the condition. Thanks Lee,35-3.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> To: cnc-list 
>>> Cc: Joel Aronson 
>>> Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2015 1:55 pm
>>> Subject: Stus-List Free main off of 35/3
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> my new main has arrived.  I have an old but usable dacron main I no
>>> longer need.  It should fit a 35 or Landfall 38.
>>>
>>> Just pay shipping and add battens  Otherwise it will become a duffle bag.
>>>
>>> --
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[David Lenehan via CnC-List]

Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.

David Lenehan
"Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan  wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most
> years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on
> how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.
> The really bad years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight,
> sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the
> serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those guys and for some
> there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it
> away after five races (including 1984).
>
> I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the
> supermaxis were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.
> At this point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired
> (lots of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make
> repairs so they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently
> beating into a southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.
>
> Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.
>
> Hope that update helps,
>
> David Lenehan
> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>
> On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
>> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>>
>> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

David,

I'm at the other end of Long Island Sound, and I too noticed an 
unusually rapid deterioration of my shaft zinc.  Usually it's only 1/2 
gone over the whole season, but this year I could see it going much 
faster over the summer and it was totally gone, as is not there, when I 
was hauled out.


I haven't given it much thought until your post, but the water quality 
in LI Sound was different this year than in the recent past.  It was 
much more clear, and there was an incredible amount of fish in the 
Sound, even humpback whales in Hempstead Harbor.  Not sure if that has 
anything to do with increased galvanic activity, but now I'm wondering.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY



On 12/26/2015 12:40 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
We are at the end of the Thames River where it enters Long Island 
Sound, but there is no current and it is pretty much salt water as far 
as I can tell.  We had so little rain last summer that I can't imagine 
it was lower salinity that previous years. Dave


On Dec 26, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Any chance there was more or less rain or tributary flow? 
Boatzincs.Com  provides guidance for the use of 
aluminum, zinc and magnesium anodes based on protected metals and 
salinity.  If the water became more or less saltymaybe??


Josh




Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT




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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[David Lenehan via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis,

Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most
years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on
how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.
The really bad years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight,
sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the
serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those guys and for some
there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it
away after five races (including 1984).

I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the supermaxis
were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.  At this
point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired (lots
of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make repairs so
they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently beating into a
southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.

Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.

Hope that update helps,

David Lenehan
"Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>
> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

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The camp x-4 zincs have a little copper ball in them that contacts the
shaft.  Any chance that they were making better or worse contact between
different years?  The yard guys wack the hell out of them while alternately
tightening the screws in a torque pattern.   Use a wire brush to clean and
rough up the shaft and the zinc before installing.

I'm kinda grasping at straws, sorry.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Dec 26, 2015 12:41 PM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> We are at the end of the Thames River where it enters Long Island Sound,
> but there is no current and it is pretty much salt water as far as I can
> tell.  We had so little rain last summer that I can’t imagine it was lower
> salinity that previous years. Dave
>
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Any chance there was more or less rain or tributary flow?  Boatzincs.Com
> provides guidance for the use of aluminum, zinc and magnesium anodes based
> on protected metals and salinity.  If the water became more or less
> saltymaybe??
>
> Josh
>
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race - more

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Here's video of the pre-start and start.

http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/news/2015/pre-race/rolex-sydney-hobart-race-start/

Can you imagine being a spectator boat on the edge and having one of the
maxis sail right up to you and tack?  Wow!

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

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We are at the end of the Thames River where it enters Long Island Sound, but 
there is no current and it is pretty much salt water as far as I can tell.  We 
had so little rain last summer that I can’t imagine it was lower salinity that 
previous years. Dave

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> Any chance there was more or less rain or tributary flow?  Boatzincs.Com 
> provides guidance for the use of aluminum, zinc and magnesium anodes based on 
> protected metals and salinity.  If the water became more or less 
> saltymaybe??
> 
> Josh
> 
> 

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New London, CT



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Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

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Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.

http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

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Any chance there was more or less rain or tributary flow?  Boatzincs.Com
provides guidance for the use of aluminum, zinc and magnesium anodes based
on protected metals and salinity.  If the water became more or less
saltymaybe??

Josh
On Dec 26, 2015 12:09 PM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Got it. These were Camp X-4.  Dave
>
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> "Martz".  Two most popular zinc brands are Martyr and Camp.  I prefer Camp.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh-
>> On Dec 24, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any changes to the salinity of the water where the boat is kept?
>>
>> Same mooring in same place
>>
>> You said you get them from boatzincs.com.  Are you absolutely sure that
>> you didn't accidentally change between martz and camp or between aluminum,
>> zinc, and magnesium?
>>
>> Not sure what martz means but I ordered the same part number each year.
>> All zinc.
>>
>> Did you make any changes to the bonding/ground system in the boat?
>>
>> Not that I know of
>>
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Dec 24, 2015 11:48 AM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When my boat was pulled from the water this year I was surprised to find
>>> that the Max-prop zinc was gone, one of the shaft zincs was gone and the
>>> other was nearly gone.  I have had this configuration in past years and
>>> every other year at the end of the season I could barely justify replacing
>>> them because there was so little metal decay.  I know of nothing I did
>>> differently this year.  I am on a mooring so rarely plugged into shore
>>> power.  What would cause a dramatic increase in zinc decay?  Thanks and
>>> Happy Holidays to all!  Dave
>>>
>>> Aries
>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>>
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

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Got it. These were Camp X-4.  Dave

On Dec 26, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
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> "Martz".  Two most popular zinc brands are Martyr and Camp.  I prefer Camp.
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
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> Hi Josh-
> On Dec 24, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
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>> Any changes to the salinity of the water where the boat is kept? 
>> 
> Same mooring in same place
>> You said you get them from boatzincs.com.  Are you absolutely sure that you 
>> didn't accidentally change between martz and camp or between aluminum, zinc, 
>> and magnesium? 
>> 
> Not sure what martz means but I ordered the same part number each year.  All 
> zinc.
>> Did you make any changes to the bonding/ground system in the boat?
>> 
> Not that I know of
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2015 11:48 AM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> When my boat was pulled from the water this year I was surprised to find 
>> that the Max-prop zinc was gone, one of the shaft zincs was gone and the 
>> other was nearly gone.  I have had this configuration in past years and 
>> every other year at the end of the season I could barely justify replacing 
>> them because there was so little metal decay.  I know of nothing I did 
>> differently this year.  I am on a mooring so rarely plugged into shore 
>> power.  What would cause a dramatic increase in zinc decay?  Thanks and 
>> Happy Holidays to all!  Dave
>> 
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

"Martz".  Two most popular zinc brands are Martyr and Camp.  I prefer Camp.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Josh-
> On Dec 24, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Any changes to the salinity of the water where the boat is kept?
>
> Same mooring in same place
>
> You said you get them from boatzincs.com.  Are you absolutely sure that
> you didn't accidentally change between martz and camp or between aluminum,
> zinc, and magnesium?
>
> Not sure what martz means but I ordered the same part number each year.
> All zinc.
>
> Did you make any changes to the bonding/ground system in the boat?
>
> Not that I know of
>
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Dec 24, 2015 11:48 AM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> When my boat was pulled from the water this year I was surprised to find
>> that the Max-prop zinc was gone, one of the shaft zincs was gone and the
>> other was nearly gone.  I have had this configuration in past years and
>> every other year at the end of the season I could barely justify replacing
>> them because there was so little metal decay.  I know of nothing I did
>> differently this year.  I am on a mooring so rarely plugged into shore
>> power.  What would cause a dramatic increase in zinc decay?  Thanks and
>> Happy Holidays to all!  Dave
>>
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>>
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Hi Josh-
On Dec 24, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Any changes to the salinity of the water where the boat is kept? 
> 
Same mooring in same place
> You said you get them from boatzincs.com.  Are you absolutely sure that you 
> didn't accidentally change between martz and camp or between aluminum, zinc, 
> and magnesium? 
> 
Not sure what martz means but I ordered the same part number each year.  All 
zinc.
> Did you make any changes to the bonding/ground system in the boat?
> 
Not that I know of
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On Dec 24, 2015 11:48 AM, "David Knecht via CnC-List"  
> wrote:
> When my boat was pulled from the water this year I was surprised to find that 
> the Max-prop zinc was gone, one of the shaft zincs was gone and the other was 
> nearly gone.  I have had this configuration in past years and every other 
> year at the end of the season I could barely justify replacing them because 
> there was so little metal decay.  I know of nothing I did differently this 
> year.  I am on a mooring so rarely plugged into shore power.  What would 
> cause a dramatic increase in zinc decay?  Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!  
> Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
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Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

The last two times I have bought headsails for Penniless, the sailmakers
have suggested dacron. It slowly degrades over time and can be re-cut. My
previous high-tech sails had collapsed suddenly (two out of four headsails
over 20+ years). I went with a local sailmaker who specializes in dacron for
Stars and Log Canoes and he was quite reasonable (in the price range of the
offshore folks). And, once again, we became competitive with the new sail.
The previous one lasted about six years and was getting tired, but it had
been raced about 20-30 times a year.

Gary 
30-1

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 7:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

A friend of mine bought from them (the full set for a Hunter 34). The cost
is very competitive. But measure triple (double is not good enough). I also
heard that if they screw up, they would replace the sail (not necessarily
without some discussions, but they do).

Marek

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 18:36
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

Jon -- especially given your last name (!), I'd suggest you try Rolly Tasker
Sails in Thailand.  They've given me a quote of $1400 delivered for a 135
headsail for my LF38; and their quality is supposed to be very high.

www.rollytasker.com

-- Fred

Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis -- 1979 C&C Landfall 38
On the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 25, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Jon Tasker via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> I need an affordable 155% Genoa for my 37 for Wednesday nights. North
wants $5000, Ullman wants $3140. At age 75, my wife the questions the
necessity. Anyone got any suggestions.
> Jon Tasker
> C&C 37
> Muskegon MI
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Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

The boat w just bought came with a rally Tasker head sail.  Although the 
material felt crisp the leech was complete shredded. 
It came with a dacron sun cover and that was shredded,  the sail was shredded,  
there were numerous repairs evident.  At guest I thought the all had been left 
furled fur very long periods of time and that was happened to the edge.   Then 
I noticed all the patches. 
That is my only experience with rally tasker.  I ended up ordering a new sail 
from precision sail loft.  So far the customer service has been good but,  I 
haven't seen the all yet.   They gave me 3 quotes at different levels of sail 
cloth (and build quality maybe).  I ended up going with the highest grade with 
some extras.  The price is $3500 with shipping.
You have to pay the haggle game a little.   I ended up with a15 percent 
discount by dragging my feet a little.   You know,  "I don't know,  I have to 
think about it. .." type stuff.  A few phone calls later...  I won't see the 
sail until March.   That was my call though because they allow a 3 payment plan 
and I wanted to spread out the cost.  So a third at order,  a third two months 
later and a third at shipping.  


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: 
Frederick G Street via CnC-List  Date: 12/25/2015  6:35 
PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa 
Jon -- especially given your last name (!), I'd suggest you try Rolly Tasker 
Sails in Thailand.  They've given me a quote of $1400 delivered for a 135 
headsail for my LF38; and their quality is supposed to be very high.

www.rollytasker.com

-- Fred

Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis -- 1979 C&C Landfall 38
On the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 25, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Jon Tasker via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I need an affordable 155% Genoa for my 37 for Wednesday nights. North wants 
> $5000, Ullman wants $3140. At age 75, my wife the questions the necessity. 
> Anyone got any suggestions.
> Jon Tasker 
> C&C 37
> Muskegon MI
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