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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List

I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats, Joel!!!

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Congrats!
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and buying 
>> a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a Hylas 44 on 
>> Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous offer that 
>> was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like her and she 
>> has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan is to bring 
>> her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office and then put 
>> The Office up for sale.
>> 
>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Joel 
>> 301 541 8551
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List

Hi Gary,

Thanks very much.  Do you know what the bulkheads the chainplates attach to
are made from?  Is it solid fiberglass or marine plywood covered in
fiberglass?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had some leaking on my 1980 version (#593) but it was from cracks in the
> aluminum cover at deck level. By the way, all of our early 30's are MK1's,
> it wasn't until the mid to late '80's that they came out with the II, which
> is quite different.
>
> I pulled the chainplates out - a rather simple job as the bolts are easy
> to get to. Previous owners or mechanics had kept plenty of sealant under
> the covers, so there was minimal moisture intrusion. I cored out some balsa
> just to make sure, built a little dam and filled with epoxy. Then filed it
> out just enough to get the plate back in and reinstalled with new covers I
> built from stainless plate, with the same screw pattern, but a little
> larger than the originals to cover the glass work.
>
> I did discover that the chainplates were not centered in the boat properly
> (Monday AM boat?). The starboard plate was an inch closer to the center of
> the boat than the port one! That was part of the repair, which just
> consisted of drilling some new holes in the bulkhead and enlarging the
> thru-deck hole, and sealing with epoxy. The chainplates were in perfect
> shape.
>
> I did this repair over 10 years ago and have had no probems since. I did
> use butyl under the new covers to get a good seal.
>
> Gary Nylander
> 30-1
> Maryland
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Doyle via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:47 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Ryan Doyle 
> Subject: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding
>
> After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from
> behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates
> themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted
> some of the bolts through the bulkhead.
>
> I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water
> from coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly
> re-do) both chainplates.
>
> My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to
> remove some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the
> chainplates… see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on
> my 1976 30 MKI are marine ply covered in fiberglass.
>
> Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I
> should know before I embark on this project?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List

Hi Richard,

We do mostly day sailing from up on the Hudson down the NJ coast - no serious 
cruising or offshore stuff.  FWIW... I love my little Lowrance unit.  I was 
originally drawn to the Lowrance name because my grandfather had Lowrance 
navigation equipment in his old Piper Dakota.  

You might want something bigger with more bells and whistles, but I like the 
simplicity of my little Elite 4.  The one thing I might do if I was buying now 
is get a Lowrance model with a larger screen.  Ours is very bright, but no more 
than 5"x3".

We have an Elite 4 without a depth transducer.  It was an absolute steal 
price-wise (I think it was under $170).  It has a bright color screen and it's 
easy to read.  You can upgrade to full Navionics charts with a little SD card 
for around $120 at WestMarine if I remember correctly.  The unit comes with a 
more basic chart set already installed.

I also have the Navionics apps on my iphone and ipad as backups, as well as 
paper charts, of course. 

I've heard people complain about customer service with Lowrance, but I've never 
had to call as my unit has always worked.  Build quality seems great and I find 
the menus easy to use. 

Again, you may be looking for something with more bells and whistles... If so 
I'd look at Lowrance's higher end models.  I've heard the new Garmin units are 
great as well, but I've never owned one. Hope this helps a little.

All the best,
Ryan

Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 08:47, Richard Walter via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Ahoy!
> 
> We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should we 
> upgrade our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new GPS/chartplotter 
> altogether? We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat already.
> 
> We sail NYC to Maine.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard 
> s/v INDIGO
> Watch Hill
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Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-05 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List

I had some leaking on my 1980 version (#593) but it was from cracks in the 
aluminum cover at deck level. By the way, all of our early 30's are MK1's, it 
wasn't until the mid to late '80's that they came out with the II, which is 
quite different.

I pulled the chainplates out - a rather simple job as the bolts are easy to get 
to. Previous owners or mechanics had kept plenty of sealant under the covers, 
so there was minimal moisture intrusion. I cored out some balsa just to make 
sure, built a little dam and filled with epoxy. Then filed it out just enough 
to get the plate back in and reinstalled with new covers I built from stainless 
plate, with the same screw pattern, but a little larger than the originals to 
cover the glass work.

I did discover that the chainplates were not centered in the boat properly 
(Monday AM boat?). The starboard plate was an inch closer to the center of the 
boat than the port one! That was part of the repair, which just consisted of 
drilling some new holes in the bulkhead and enlarging the thru-deck hole, and 
sealing with epoxy. The chainplates were in perfect shape.

I did this repair over 10 years ago and have had no probems since. I did use 
butyl under the new covers to get a good seal.

Gary Nylander
30-1
Maryland

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Subject: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from 
behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates 
themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted 
some of the bolts through the bulkhead.

I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water from 
coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly re-do) both 
chainplates.

My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to remove 
some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the chainplates… 
see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on my 1976 30 MKI 
are marine ply covered in fiberglass.  

Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I should 
know before I embark on this project?

Thanks in advance.

Ryan




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Re: Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List

The 276c remains one of the most useful units Garmin ever produced. I 
still use mine, but mostly on the screen showing estimated arrivals, SOG 
etc. In other words, I use it as a trip computer. One thing about these 
units is that at some point, the internal button battery wears out and 
the unit will stop holding settings. This happened to mine a couple 
years ago, and I was able to find information on how to replace it, and 
suggestions on exactly what battery number is needed. It is a special 
button battery with leads welded to it so it can be soldered to the 
circuit board. You cannot directly solder a button battery to anything. 
This repair was well worth the effort involved. That said, I'm not sure 
chart updates are even still available, and I bought a newer Garmin with 
included charts and a bigger brighter screen to use as a dedicated chart 
display.


Bill Bina

On 2/5/2016 8:47 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List wrote:

Ahoy!

We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should 
we upgrade our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new 
GPS/chartplotter altogether? We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat 
already.


We sail NYC to Maine.

Thanks,
Richard
s/v INDIGO
Watch Hill


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Re: Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List


This will get you started:

https://www.google.com/search?q=garmin+276c+mc621=utf-8=utf-8

Bill Bina

On 2/5/2016 8:47 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List wrote:

Ahoy!

We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should 
we upgrade our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new 
GPS/chartplotter altogether? We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat 
already.


We sail NYC to Maine.

Thanks,
Richard
s/v INDIGO
Watch Hill



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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List

Hi Steve,
Check the specs:
http://dickinsonmarine.com/product/newport-diesel-heater/
http://www.eberspaecher-na.com/fileadmin/data/countrysites/EB_Kanada/pdf/Airtronic_D2-D4-D5_Spec_sheet.pdf

The Newport heater is up to the task, low setting
is at D2 high and high setting is 10 percent over the D4 high.

I believe the Espar D2 will be adequate for
Georgian Bay cruising up to end of September.

High heat output is good to get the cabin quickly
up to temperature from cold. If you're running
the heater all night then smaller is better (less cycling).

Comparison of the two styles is not as easy.
Dickenson Newport:
Pros: no power required, no reset problems on
"fail to start too many times", visible flame
(fireplace ambience), warming plate for a pot o'
whatever (may require an mod), steady radiant heat
Cons: higher heat on low may require cracking a
hatch open to control cabin temp unless the
Admiral & parrot don't like 80 degF, needs a
circulating fan for quicker cabin warm-up, dial 'twiddling' for temp control

Espar:
Pros: thermostat control, better heater output ranges, good air distribution
Cons: higher installed cost, needs battery support, more noise,

I have a Dickensen heater with the pressure
kerosene burner (forget what model it is) approx.
9000 BU, mounted low near the mast base. It is
good for cruising west coast up to end of
October. For winter cruising I use a portable
propane (Heater Buddy?) to get the cabin up to
temperature in the morning because I shutdown the
heater at night... which I would not do if running a Newport style burner.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
Vancouver Island

At 11:41 AM 05/02/2016, you wrote:

Hi All,

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto
units. Is anyone running one on a 32? There's a
good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet
of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(

My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the
season, not living aboard in the winter. The
boat is two hours away so there will be
"maintenance" trips in the spring and fall which
means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up there.Â

I have to keep the temps warm for the boat
parrot who'll be living aboard with us while we
cruise. We're planning three weeks in August
this year so it shouldn't be too much of an
issue but it gets cold up there at night, even
in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold
summer nights but I have ideas about maybe
cruising the North Channel when the fall colours
are out. I don't want to limit myself. At the
same time, I don't want to spend money that could go elsewhere.Â

The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters
are pretty but I hear they don't make quite
enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost,
but don't want to be disappointed. Everyone says
the Espar and Webastos are best.Â

I'de be doing the installation myself in any
case so am eager to hear from others who have gone through it.Â

Thanks,

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List

Steve – 

We’re on Lake Superior and have a little bit bigger space to heat with our 37.  
 I went with a Webasto 2000 last year.  There is only a single outlet in the 
space with the return air also ducted to the space – IE we don’t have fresh air 
makeup.  If I could figure out a good way to duct a vent in the vberth, that 
would be a good add.  I found we get around 10 degree rise per hour.  So 
getting the space from 30-60 will take 2-3 hrs.  It stays pretty comfortable - 
when my crew keep the hatch closed.  

Our use/size calculation per the website was in between two sizes and I went 
with a smaller one.  I really only need to take the edge off and dry out gear.  
Also, the less physical space available and lower power consumption were a 
factor.   These things are like diesel engines and like to be run, so having it 
going full bore when it is on is a good thing.  

Hope that helps.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stevan Plavsa
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

Thanks Ken, after doing some more reading it sounds like their 26 foot 
recommendation for the D2 is for a power boat, which of course is more 
voluminous than my old C :)

>From searching this list it sounds like a single outlet into the cabin works 
>best. Curious if any other 32 owners have installed a forced air diesel and 
>how they routed the install. 

Cheers,

Steve

Suhana, C 32

Toronto

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
wrote:

Our Espar D4 will bring the entire boat interior up to a comfortable 
temperature when the boat is out of the water on its cradle and the temperature 
outside is below freezing. This is a 39' 6" C 37 XL with a fairly roomy aft 
cabin.

I expect you can get away with a D2 on a 32.

Ken Heaton
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/

On 5 February 2016 at 15:41, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi All,

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a 
32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature 
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(

My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in 
the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips in 
the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up 
there. 

I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard with 
us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it 
shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in 
August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas 
about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't 
want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could 
go elsewhere. 

The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they don't 
make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to be 
disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. 

I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from 
others who have gone through it. 

Thanks,

Steve

Suhana, C 32

Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List

Sam,

 

My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the blades 
flopping around if I’m near idle speed.  It’s not a big issue, but the prop 
does have some favorite rpm ranges.  Mine is now about 12 years old and has 
never been rebuilt.  I only average about 50 hours a year motoring though.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 16:13
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Wheeler 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

 

Thanks, everyone!  

 

Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low revs.  
Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that issue?

 

Sam

 

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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

I'm a compulsive yachtworld window shopper, so I'm an expert on pictures of
boats. I really like the Hylas 44 :)

Congrats!

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!
>
> I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?
>
> great way to start the season!!
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Robert Boyer 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500
>
> I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats,
> Joel!!!
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Congrats!
> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
>> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
>> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
>> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
>> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
>> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
>> and then put The Office up for sale.
>>
>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>>
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
>>
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Doug Allardyce via CnC-List

I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two blade 
16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade Maxprop. 
Less vibration.


Doug Allardyce

C 35-III


"BULLET"

Detroit

_/)~~~_/) 

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Brodersen via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 5:55 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Jake Brodersen
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3


  Sam,

   

  My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the blades 
flopping around if I’m near idle speed.  It’s not a big issue, but the prop 
does have some favorite rpm ranges.  Mine is now about 12 years old and has 
never been rebuilt.  I only average about 50 hours a year motoring though.

   

  Jake

   

  Jake Brodersen

  C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

  Hampton VA

   

   

   

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  Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

   

  Thanks, everyone!  

   

  Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low revs.  
Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that issue?

   

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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Hi Stevan,

In part because of the aft cabin layout and a forward cabin that can be
closed off we have 4 outlets piped from our Espar heater.  One is in the
aft cabin, one in the shower in the heads, one in the main cabin and one in
the forward cabin.  If all the outlets are wide open the aft cabin and
heads warm up first and fastest as they are closest to the Espar which is
mounted in the aft lazarette.  Closing those two outlets down a bit gets
the heat to the forward cabin (if needed to keep guests comfortable).

Our return air is taken from the lazarette which pulls it partly from the
bilge and partly through other air inlets.  Our bilge doesn't smell so no
smell from the heater and it makes sense (to me) to pull the coldest air
form below the cabin sole into the heater.

Ken H.

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On 5 February 2016 at 16:42, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:

> Thanks Ken, after doing some more reading it sounds like their 26 foot
> recommendation for the D2 is for a power boat, which of course is more
> voluminous than my old C :)
>
> From searching this list it sounds like a single outlet into the cabin
> works best. Curious if any other 32 owners have installed a forced air
> diesel and how they routed the install.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Our Espar D4 will bring the entire boat interior up to a comfortable
>> temperature when the boat is out of the water on its cradle and the
>> temperature outside is below freezing. This is a 39' 6" C 37 XL with a
>> fairly roomy aft cabin.
>>
>> I expect you can get away with a D2 on a 32.
>>
>> Ken Heaton
>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>> C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>
>> http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/
>>
>> On 5 February 2016 at 15:41, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running
>>> one on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
>>> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
>>> need the D4 :(
>>>
>>> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living
>>> aboard in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be
>>> "maintenance" trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it
>>> can get quite cold up there.
>>>
>>> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living
>>> aboard with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this
>>> year so it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at
>>> night, even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights
>>> but I have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall
>>> colours are out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't
>>> want to spend money that could go elsewhere.
>>>
>>> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they
>>> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't
>>> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.
>>>
>>> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear
>>> from others who have gone through it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C 32
>>> Toronto
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List

Wow!  I'm very jealous.  Congrats Joel!

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats,
> Joel!!!
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
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> Congrats!
> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
>> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
>> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
>> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
>> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
>> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
>> and then put The Office up for sale.
>>
>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>>
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
>>
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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List

How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the 
warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It takes 
the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening. 

Andy
C 40
Peregrine


Andrew Burton
PO Box 632
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260


> On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
>   I have an espar  installed by po, no problems in five years.  But, does 
> have significant current draw at start up.  I need to start engine to fire up 
> unless on shore power.  After it gets going no problem.  Outlet in main 
> cabin, v berth  and head.  
> Bill Walker 
> Pentwater Mi 
> CnC  36
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on 
> a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature 
> indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 
> :(
> 
> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in 
> the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips 
> in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up 
> there. 
> 
> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard 
> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it 
> shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in 
> August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas 
> about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't 
> want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that 
> could go elsewhere. 
> 
> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they 
> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't 
> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. 
> 
> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from 
> others who have gone through it. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
> 
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List

Congrats!
On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
> and then put The Office up for sale.
>
> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List

Yup!  You got the disease real bad!
Gary
S/V High Maintenance
'90 C 37 +
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
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> Congrats!
> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
>> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
>> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
>> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
>> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
>> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
>> and then put The Office up for sale.
>>
>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>>
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
>>
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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread William Walker via CnC-List

Steve,
  I have an espar  installed by po, no problems in five years.  But, does have 
significant current draw at start up.  I need to start engine to fire up unless 
on shore power.  After it gets going no problem.  Outlet in main cabin, v berth 
 and head.  
Bill Walker 
Pentwater Mi 
CnC  36

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi All,


I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a 
32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature 
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(


My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in 
the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips in 
the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up 
there. 


I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard with 
us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it 
shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in 
August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas 
about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't 
want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could 
go elsewhere. 


The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they don't 
make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to be 
disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. 


I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from 
others who have gone through it. 


Thanks,


Steve

Suhana, C 32

Toronto



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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

Thanks for the helpful replies, all.

Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I like
the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my favourite
things. But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove types,
which are super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have
drawbacks on a boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way.
The problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4
powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is that it doesn't
smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity
tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, maybe in the
hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've
read about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat than the
D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my boat smell like
diesel?

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the
> warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It
> takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.
>
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> PO Box 632
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
>
> +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>   I have an espar  installed by po, no problems in five years.  But, does
> have significant current draw at start up.  I need to start engine to fire
> up unless on shore power.  After it gets going no problem.  Outlet in main
> cabin, v berth  and head.
> Bill Walker
> Pentwater Mi
> CnC  36
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> --
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one
> on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
> need the D4 :(
>
> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard
> in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance"
> trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite
> cold up there.
>
> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard
> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so
> it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night,
> even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I
> have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are
> out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
> money that could go elsewhere.
>
> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they
> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't
> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.
>
> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from
> others who have gone through it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

276C?  Heck, I still use my Garmin 128.  Buddy even gave me a spare 128
couple months ago.  Just like the way it handles routes and waypoint
arrival times.  It often runs the boat.  I have a Standard Horizon CP190i
at the helm for looking at AIS targets, depths, etc.

Dennis C.
On Feb 5, 2016 9:11 AM, "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The 276c remains one of the most useful units Garmin ever produced. I
> still use mine, but mostly on the screen showing estimated arrivals, SOG
> etc. In other words, I use it as a trip computer. One thing about these
> units is that at some point, the internal button battery wears out and the
> unit will stop holding settings. This happened to mine a couple years ago,
> and I was able to find information on how to replace it, and suggestions on
> exactly what battery number is needed. It is a special button battery with
> leads welded to it so it can be soldered to the circuit board. You cannot
> directly solder a button battery to anything. This repair was well worth
> the effort involved. That said, I'm not sure chart updates are even still
> available, and I bought a newer Garmin with included charts and a bigger
> brighter screen to use as a dedicated chart display.
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 2/5/2016 8:47 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Ahoy!
>
> We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should we
> upgrade our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new GPS/chartplotter
> altogether? We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat already.
>
> We sail NYC to Maine.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> s/v INDIGO
> Watch Hill
>
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Re: Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List

Touching on what Bill just said… I'm generally a fan of fixing things on
the boat rather than replacing them, but my exception is electronics.  The
technology advances and the prices come down so fast that it's normally
smarter to just replace.

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> The 276c remains one of the most useful units Garmin ever produced. I
> still use mine, but mostly on the screen showing estimated arrivals, SOG
> etc. In other words, I use it as a trip computer. One thing about these
> units is that at some point, the internal button battery wears out and the
> unit will stop holding settings. This happened to mine a couple years ago,
> and I was able to find information on how to replace it, and suggestions on
> exactly what battery number is needed. It is a special button battery with
> leads welded to it so it can be soldered to the circuit board. You cannot
> directly solder a button battery to anything. This repair was well worth
> the effort involved. That said, I'm not sure chart updates are even still
> available, and I bought a newer Garmin with included charts and a bigger
> brighter screen to use as a dedicated chart display.
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 2/5/2016 8:47 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Ahoy!
>
> We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should we
> upgrade our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new GPS/chartplotter
> altogether? We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat already.
>
> We sail NYC to Maine.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> s/v INDIGO
> Watch Hill
>
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Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

Hi All,

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one
on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
need the D4 :(

My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard
in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance"
trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite
cold up there.

I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard
with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so
it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night,
even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I
have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are
out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
money that could go elsewhere.

The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they
don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't
want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.

I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from
others who have gone through it.

Thanks,

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Sam Wheeler via CnC-List

Thanks, everyone!

Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low revs.
Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that issue?

Sam

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Dave via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I'm with Tim. I had my Martek rebuilt last spring and was really
> disappointed because even after the rebuild it wouldn't always open evenly.
> I'm replacing it with a FlexFold. By the way reverse was OK you just need
> to get use to it.
>
> Dave
> C 35 MK 3
> Saltaire
> Bristol, RI
>
> --
> *From: *"Jake Brodersen via CnC-List" 
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *"Jake Brodersen" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:35:37 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
>
>
> Sam,
>
>
>
> IIRC, I’m swinging a 10x16 Martec elliptical prop.  Good forward
> performance.  Reverse requires a lot of rpms to get a response, but it
> works for me.
>
> I’m just a high speed – low drag racer anyway.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam
> Wheeler via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 17:08
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Sam Wheeler 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I recently bought a 35-3, and one of the projects it came with was the
> prop had galvanic corrosion and needed to be replaced.  It's a fixed two
> blade.
>
>
>
> The previous owners adjusted the pitch on it, apparently from 10 to 8.
> They seemed to think that improved performance but the boatyard is telling
> me that the specs for the boat and engine call for 10.  Does anyone have
> any thoughts on this?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Carston Grasvik* 
> Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:19 AM
> Subject: FW: Propeller for C 35
> To: Sam Wheeler 
>
> Hi Sam,
>
>
>
> It appears your old prop has an odd pitch to it. The prop I estimated for
> you has a 10 degree pitch which is specified for your boat and engine.
> Please see note below from our prop people and advise what you’d like to do.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Carston
>
>
>
> *From:* Ernel Elkin [mailto:prop...@pacbell.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016 3:47 PM
> *To:* Carston Grasvik
> *Subject:* Propeller for C 35
>
>
>
> HI CARSTON - DAVE MEASURED THE PITCH ON THE 2 BLADE AND IT IS 8"!
> UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROP I FOUND FOR YOU HAD ALREADY BEEN REPITCHED FROM 12
> TO 10 AND CAN NOT BE REPITCHED ANYMORE.  IT WOULD PROBABLY CRACK.
>
>
>
> I LOOKED AROUND AND FOUND ANOTHER 18"X 10", BUT THE PILOT BORE IS 1-1/8",
> SO THE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE TO USE A BUSHING WITH IT AND HAVE IT REPITCHED
> TO 8".  BUSHING COST IS $74 AND REPITCHING IS $150.
>
>
>
> KIND OF A WEIRD SIZE.  THE LOWEST PITCH AVAILABLE IS 10".  PLEASE DISCUSS
> WITH YOUR CUSTOMER.  THANKS.
>
>
>
> ERNEL
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Dave via CnC-List

I'm with Tim. I had my Martek rebuilt last spring and was really disappointed 
because even after the rebuild it wouldn't always open evenly. I'm replacing it 
with a FlexFold. By the way reverse was OK you just need to get use to it. 

Dave 
C 35 MK 3 
Saltaire 
Bristol, RI 

- Original Message -

From: "Jake Brodersen via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Jake Brodersen"  
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:35:37 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 



Sam, 



IIRC, I’m swinging a 10x16 Martec elliptical prop. Good forward performance. 
Reverse requires a lot of rpms to get a response, but it works for me. 

I’m just a high speed – low drag racer anyway. 



Jake 



Jake Brodersen 

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” 

Hampton VA 







From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 17:08 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Sam Wheeler  
Subject: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 




Hi everyone, 





I recently bought a 35-3, and one of the projects it came with was the prop had 
galvanic corrosion and needed to be replaced. It's a fixed two blade. 





The previous owners adjusted the pitch on it, apparently from 10 to 8. They 
seemed to think that improved performance but the boatyard is telling me that 
the specs for the boat and engine call for 10. Does anyone have any thoughts on 
this? 





Thanks, 


Sam 








-- Forwarded message -- 
From: Carston Grasvik < cars...@svendsens.com > 
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:19 AM 
Subject: FW: Propeller for C 35 
To: Sam Wheeler < samwheeler.s...@gmail.com > 



Hi Sam, 



It appears your old prop has an odd pitch to it. The prop I estimated for you 
has a 10 degree pitch which is specified for your boat and engine. Please see 
note below from our prop people and advise what you’d like to do. 



Best Regards, 



Carston 




From: Ernel Elkin [mailto: prop...@pacbell.net ] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 3:47 PM 
To: Carston Grasvik 
Subject: Propeller for C 35 





HI CARSTON - DAVE MEASURED THE PITCH ON THE 2 BLADE AND IT IS 8"! 
UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROP I FOUND FOR YOU HAD ALREADY BEEN REPITCHED FROM 12 TO 
10 AND CAN NOT BE REPITCHED ANYMORE. IT WOULD PROBABLY CRACK. 





I LOOKED AROUND AND FOUND ANOTHER 18"X 10", BUT THE PILOT BORE IS 1-1/8", SO 
THE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE TO USE A BUSHING WITH IT AND HAVE IT REPITCHED TO 8". 
BUSHING COST IS $74 AND REPITCHING IS $150. 





KIND OF A WEIRD SIZE. THE LOWEST PITCH AVAILABLE IS 10". PLEASE DISCUSS WITH 
YOUR CUSTOMER. THANKS. 





ERNEL 




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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Our Espar D4 will bring the entire boat interior up to a comfortable
temperature when the boat is out of the water on its cradle and the
temperature outside is below freezing. This is a 39' 6" C 37 XL with a
fairly roomy aft cabin.

I expect you can get away with a D2 on a 32.

Ken Heaton
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/

On 5 February 2016 at 15:41, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one
> on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
> need the D4 :(
>
> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard
> in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance"
> trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite
> cold up there.
>
> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard
> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so
> it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night,
> even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I
> have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are
> out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
> money that could go elsewhere.
>
> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they
> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't
> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.
>
> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from
> others who have gone through it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

Thanks Ken, after doing some more reading it sounds like their 26 foot
recommendation for the D2 is for a power boat, which of course is more
voluminous than my old C :)

>From searching this list it sounds like a single outlet into the cabin
works best. Curious if any other 32 owners have installed a forced air
diesel and how they routed the install.

Cheers,

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto




On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Our Espar D4 will bring the entire boat interior up to a comfortable
> temperature when the boat is out of the water on its cradle and the
> temperature outside is below freezing. This is a 39' 6" C 37 XL with a
> fairly roomy aft cabin.
>
> I expect you can get away with a D2 on a 32.
>
> Ken Heaton
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
> http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/
>
> On 5 February 2016 at 15:41, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running
>> one on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
>> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
>> need the D4 :(
>>
>> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard
>> in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance"
>> trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite
>> cold up there.
>>
>> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard
>> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so
>> it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night,
>> even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I
>> have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are
>> out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
>> money that could go elsewhere.
>>
>> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they
>> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't
>> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.
>>
>> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear
>> from others who have gone through it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C 32
>> Toronto
>>
>>
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Stus-List Garmin 276C BlueChart upgrade? Replace?

2016-02-05 Thread Richard Walter via CnC-List

Ahoy!

We love our old Garmin 276C. It is time, however, to upgrade. Should we upgrade 
our BlueCharts? If so how? Or should we get a new GPS/chartplotter altogether? 
We have the Raymarine ST-60s on the boat already.
We sail NYC to Maine.

Thanks,Richard 
s/v INDIGO
Watch Hill
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

Thanks. The plan would be a straight shot. Luckily Oregon Inlet is being
dredged so I could duck in at Morehead city and exit at Oregin if I have
to.

On Friday, February 5, 2016, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
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> wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!
>
> I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?
>
> great way to start the season!!
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List  >
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Cc: Robert Boyer  >
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500
>
> I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats,
> Joel!!!
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
> Congrats!
> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"  > wrote:
>
>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
>> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
>> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
>> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
>> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
>> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
>> and then put The Office up for sale.
>>
>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>>
>> --
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>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Doug Allardyce via CnC-List

I think so. Not much maintenance in fresh water. Just grease it every spring.


 

Doug Allardyce

C 35-III


"BULLET"

Detroit


_/)~~~_/) 

  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler 
via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 6:58 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Sam Wheeler
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3


  Thanks again to everyone for sharing your experiences.  Sounds like a 
Max-Prop is the gold standard.  On the other hand, it looks like those retail 
for a non-trivial percentage of what I paid for the entire boat.  Plus ongoing 
maintenance costs.  Is it worth it?


  On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two 
blade 16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade 
Maxprop. Less vibration.


Doug Allardyce

C 35-III


"BULLET"

Detroit


_/)~~~_/) 
  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jake 
Brodersen via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 5:55 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Jake Brodersen
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3


  Sam,



  My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the 
blades flopping around if I’m near idle speed.  It’s not a big issue, but the 
prop does have some favorite rpm ranges.  Mine is now about 12 years old and 
has never been rebuilt.  I only average about 50 hours a year motoring though.



  Jake



  Jake Brodersen

  C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

  Hampton VA







  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam 
Wheeler via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 16:13
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Sam Wheeler 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3



  Thanks, everyone!  



  Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low 
revs.  Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that 
issue?



  Sam




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Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind

2016-02-05 Thread TOM VINCENT via CnC-List




Joel,
 
The Hylas 44 is a great sailboat, I did not own one - a friend did. I had 
purchased a new Hylas 47 in 1989 and sailed her to St Thomas from Ft Lauderdale 
to join the CYC fleet which was all Hylases. I met and became friends with 
another Tom and he had a new Hylas 44. We did some sailing together over the 5 
years of the program  at CYC. The 44 would stay with me in every condition of 
sailing in the US Virgins and the BVI. I sailed my Hylas 47 to Annapolis in 
1993 and kept her in the area for another 5 years.  Joel, we met a few years 
ago when I raced my C 36 Frolic II from the Magothy to your club, you were 
the race chairman. I think you will find the Hylas 44 to be a great sailboat, 
the size will spoil you and the Admiral.
 
Tom Vincent
Frolic II 36 C cb
Chesapeake City, MD

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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List

Joel;

 

I have to agree with James. Just over a year ago they were dredging Oregon 
Inlet when the it started silting up behind the dredge after a northeaster. The 
dredge had to dredge itself back to the Sound. If I recall, the inlet was 
closed for about 6 weeks.

 

That said, Beaufort to Norfolk on the ICW is only 1 day longer than Beaufort to 
Manteo and then outside to Cape Henry…. And a whole lot less challenging than 
going outside from Cape Lookout to Cape Henry. What is the air draft on the 44? 
If she won’t go under the Wilkerson Bridge (at 64’), you can still go past 
Manteo and into the Albemarle, then up the ICW to Norfolk.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

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Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 7:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

 

I wouldn’t count on Oregon Inlet, even with dredging!

James

Delaney

C 38 Mk11

Oriental, NC

 

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List   

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 6:31 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Cc: Joel Aronson   

Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

 

Thanks. The plan would be a straight shot. Luckily Oregon Inlet is being 
dredged so I could duck in at Morehead city and exit at Oregin if I have to. 

On Friday, February 5, 2016, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  > wrote:

wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!

 

I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?

 

great way to start the season!!

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500

I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats, Joel!!!

 

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer


On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Congrats!

On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and buying a 
boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a Hylas 44 on 
Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous offer that was 
accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like her and she has no 
major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan is to bring her to 
Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office and then put The Office 
up for sale.

Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?


 

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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

Rick
Thanks. Air draft is 64

On Friday, February 5, 2016, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Joel;
>
>
>
> I have to agree with James. Just over a year ago they were dredging Oregon
> Inlet when the it started silting up behind the dredge after a northeaster.
> The dredge had to dredge itself back to the Sound. If I recall, the inlet
> was closed for about 6 weeks.
>
>
>
> That said, Beaufort to Norfolk on the ICW is only 1 day longer than
> Beaufort to Manteo and then outside to Cape Henry…. And a whole lot less
> challenging than going outside from Cape Lookout to Cape Henry. What is the
> air draft on the 44? If she won’t go under the Wilkerson Bridge (at 64’),
> you can still go past Manteo and into the Albemarle, then up the ICW to
> Norfolk.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> *Imzadi  *C 38 mk 2
>
> *la Belle Aurore *C 25 mk1
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On
> Behalf Of *jtsails via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 7:14 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> *Cc:* jtsails  >
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my
> mind!
>
>
>
> I wouldn’t count on Oregon Inlet, even with dredging!
>
> James
>
> Delaney
>
> C 38 Mk11
>
> Oriental, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 6:31 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
>
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
> 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my
> mind!
>
>
>
> Thanks. The plan would be a straight shot. Luckily Oregon Inlet is being
> dredged so I could duck in at Morehead city and exit at Oregin if I have
> to.
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2016, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
> wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!
>
>
>
> I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?
>
>
>
> great way to start the season!!
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
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> To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
> Cc: Robert Boyer 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500
>
> I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats,
> Joel!!!
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> wrote:
>
> Congrats!
>
> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> wrote:
>
> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
> and then put The Office up for sale.
>
> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List



Hi Steve,

I should have listed install location in the 
"Cons:" list of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.


The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead 
unit. The D2 has a huge advantage on heat output 
on low settings, not to be overlooked. The 
Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.


Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank 
location with proper venting is the same for 
both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The 
tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and 
if elevation is such that gravity feed is not 
going to work for the bulkhead heater then you 
get a little impulse pump similar to what the 
Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in 
the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and 
easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything 
outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon 
tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day 
use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.


On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for 
retirement cruising I will have both types of 
heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
Vancouver Island


At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:

Thanks for the helpful replies, all.

Russ, I really love the idea of the newport 
heaters, to be honest, I like the idea of solid 
fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my 
favourite things. But the only units worth 
getting are expensive wood stove types, which 
are super nice, but I can't justify the expense 
and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar is 
appealing because it's out of the way. The 
problem for me with the diesel newport is the 
fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I 
really like about my boat is that it doesn't 
smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater 
would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere 
inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, 
maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about 
the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about 
them is good however and to your point, maybe 
more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's 
still an option, will my boat smell like diesel?Â


Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton 
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use 
a propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6 
hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. 
It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.Â


Andy
C 40
Peregrine


Andrew Burton
PO Box 632
Newport, RIÂ
USA 02840

+401 965Â 5260


On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Steve,
Â  I have an esparÂ  installed by po, no 
problems in five years.Â  But, does have 
significant current draw at start up.Â  I need 
to start engine to fire up unless on shore 
power.Â  After it gets going no 
problem.Â  Outlet in main cabin, v berthÂ  and head.Â

Bill Walker
Pentwater Mi
CnCÂ  36

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail



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On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via 
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Hi All,

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto 
units. Is anyone running one on a 32? There's a 
good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. 
The literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 
feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(


My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the 
season, not living aboard in the winter. The 
boat is two hours away so there will be 
"maintenance" trips in the spring and fall 
which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up there.Â


I have to keep the temps warm for the boat 
parrot who'll be living aboard with us while we 
cruise. We're planning three weeks in August 
this year so it shouldn't be too much of an 
issue but it gets cold up there at night, even 
in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for 
cold summer nights but I have ideas about maybe 
cruising the North Channel when the fall 
colours are out. I don't want to limit myself. 
At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could go elsewhere.Â


The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters 
are pretty but I hear they don't make quite 
enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, 
but don't want to be disappointed. Everyone 
says the Espar and Webastos are best.Â


I'de be doing the installation myself in any 
case so am eager to hear from others who have gone through it.Â


Thanks,

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto


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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

2016-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

Hi Russ,

I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin (somewhere behind
the bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker on my boat likely). With the
espar/webasto, it's in the engine compartment. Also with the newport, this
is pretty much how i have to mount it:
http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg

Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side isn't optimal
either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank actually, and the venting, I'm
not really sure where I'de locate a tank for the newport.

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto


On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of the Newport
> heater. It can be tricky.
>
> The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2 has a huge
> advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be overlooked. The Admiral
> & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.
>
> Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with proper venting
> is the same for both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The tank can
> be almost anywhere for either unit and if elevation is such that gravity
> feed is not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a little
> impulse pump similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about putting the
> tank in the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and easy to fit a deck
> fill to keep everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon
> tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day use in cold conditions
> maybe a bit less for the D2.
>
> On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising I will have
> both types of heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
> Vancouver Island
>
>
> At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
>
> Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
>
> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I like
> the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my favourite
> things. But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove types,
> which are super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have
> drawbacks on a boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way.
> The problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4
> powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is that it doesn't
> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity
> tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, maybe in the
> hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've
> read about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat than the
> D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my boat smell like
> diesel?Â
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the
> warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It
> takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.Â
>
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> PO Box 632
> Newport, RIÂ
> USA 02840
>
> +401 965Â 5260
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> Â  I have an esparÂ  installed by po, no problems in five years.Â  But,
> does have significant current draw at start up.Â  I need to start engine to
> fire up unless on shore power.Â  After it gets going no problem.Â  Outlet
> in main cabin, v berthÂ  and head.Â
> Bill Walker
> Pentwater Mi
> CnCÂ  36
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> --
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one
> on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The
> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I
> need the D4 :(
>
> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard
> in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance"
> trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite
> cold up there.Â
>
> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard
> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so
> it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night,
> even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I
> have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are
> out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
> money that could go elsewhere.Â
>
> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I

Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List

Joel,

We looked at Hylas (46's and 49's) before pulling the trigger on the Tayana 48. 
 Headroom was an issue for the admiral (she is 6'2") and  the feel down below 
was a little cramped due to the wide side decks.  I bet she'll sail well!

Tim

> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and buying a 
> boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a Hylas 44 on 
> Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous offer that 
> was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like her and she 
> has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan is to bring her 
> to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office and then put The 
> Office up for sale.
> 
> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
> 
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread jtsails via CnC-List

I wouldn’t count on Oregon Inlet, even with dredging!
James
Delaney
C 38 Mk11
Oriental, NC

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 6:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

Thanks. The plan would be a straight shot. Luckily Oregon Inlet is being 
dredged so I could duck in at Morehead city and exit at Oregin if I have to. 

On Friday, February 5, 2016, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:

  wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!

  I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?

  great way to start the season!!

  -- Original Message --
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  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
  Cc: Robert Boyer 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
  Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500

  I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats, Joel!!!

  Bob

  Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

  On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Congrats!

On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

  The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and 
buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a Hylas 44 
on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous offer that 
was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like her and she 
has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan is to bring her 
to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office and then put The 
Office up for sale.

  Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
  Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
  Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?

  -- 

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  301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Sam Wheeler via CnC-List

Thanks again to everyone for sharing your experiences.  Sounds like a
Max-Prop is the gold standard.  On the other hand, it looks like those
retail for a non-trivial percentage of what I paid for the entire boat.
Plus ongoing maintenance costs.  Is it worth it?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two
> blade 16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade
> Maxprop. Less vibration.
>
>
> Doug Allardyce
>
> C 35-III
>
> "BULLET"
>
> Detroit
>
> _/)~~~_/)
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]*On Behalf Of *Jake
> Brodersen via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 5:55 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Jake Brodersen
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
>
> Sam,
>
>
>
> My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the
> blades flopping around if I’m near idle speed.  It’s not a big issue, but
> the prop does have some favorite rpm ranges.  Mine is now about 12 years
> old and has never been rebuilt.  I only average about 50 hours a year
> motoring though.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam
> Wheeler via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, February 5, 2016 16:13
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Sam Wheeler 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
>
>
>
> Thanks, everyone!
>
>
>
> Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low
> revs.  Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve
> that issue?
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-05 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List

>… Sounds like a Max-Prop is the gold standard.  On the other hand, it looks 
>like those retail for a non-trivial percentage of what I paid for the entire 
>boat.  Plus ongoing maintenance costs.  Is it worth it?

After owning three different boats with MAX Props I expect the answer to “is it 
worth it” depends on how and where you use your boat.

The way we use Calypso it is definitely worth the cost and maintenance.  We 
often motor for hours against the current when doing deliveries.  When we were 
on the west coast of Vancouver Island having the extra ”traction” of a 3 blade 
MAX prop made it possible to power into an angry sea.  The boat stops like a 
trawler.  There is some prop walk but less than with a fixed prop.  I have 
operated MAX prop equipped boats with no noticeable prop walk.

If we only powered off a mooring buoy or out of a marina then shut down the 
engine for the day one of the lower cost folder/feathering prop would be fine.

For mostly racing the two blade is my preference, for longer distance powering 
(cruising/deliveries) the 3 blade is smoother.  If you look closely at a MAX 
prop be sure to check how much clearance you have between a blade tip and your 
hull.  Calypso’s 3 blade’s diameter is a bit larger than needed.  We experience 
a little more prop walk and vibration than necessary owning to the lack of tip 
clearance.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Wheeler
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

Thanks again to everyone for sharing your experiences.  Sounds like a Max-Prop 
is the gold standard.  On the other hand, it looks like those retail for a 
non-trivial percentage of what I paid for the entire boat.  Plus ongoing 
maintenance costs.  Is it worth it?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two blade 
16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade Maxprop. 
Less vibration.

Doug Allardyce
C 35-III
"BULLET"
Detroit
_/)~~~_/)
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!

2016-02-05 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

I'll check with the CG and you guys before the trip!
Joel

On Friday, February 5, 2016, jtsails via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I wouldn’t count on Oregon Inlet, even with dredging!
> James
> Delaney
> C 38 Mk11
> Oriental, NC
>
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 6:31 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
> 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my
> mind!
>
> Thanks. The plan would be a straight shot. Luckily Oregon Inlet is being
> dredged so I could duck in at Morehead city and exit at Oregin if I have
> to.
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2016, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
>> wow Joel!  that is a serious boat!  good luck!!
>>
>> I imagine you'd do a straight shot home? figure on 6 days maybe?
>>
>> great way to start the season!!
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>
>> To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking at a second boat - must be out of my mind!
>> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:44:11 -0500
>>
>> I've known several cruisers with a Hylas 44--great boats!  Congrats,
>> Joel!!!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> wrote:
>>
>> Congrats!
>> On Feb 5, 2016 4:32 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> The admiral and I have been talking about selling my C someday and
>>> buying a boat that is more comfortable to cruise. I've been watching a
>>> Hylas 44 on Yachtworld. After a recent price reduction we made a ridiculous
>>> offer that was accepted, so we are headed to Miami this weekend. If we like
>>> her and she has no major issues (beyond what the broker told us) the plan
>>> is to bring her to Annapolis late March, do the Bermuda race on The Office
>>> and then put The Office up for sale.
>>>
>>> Anyone sail a Hylas 44?
>>> Anyone want to buy a C 35/3?
>>> Anyone up for a delivery (she has a full cockpit enclosure)?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joel
>>> 301 541 8551 <301%20541%208551>
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