Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Alan Zuas via CnC-List]

Hi, 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

Thank you,AliC 30 1976Seattle
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Re: Stus-List Guidance required on Sewage hose type - LF38

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I have replaced the holding tank under the navigation seat (only 15 gallons - 
about 3 days use) with a 19-gallon aluminum (secondary) fuel tank and converted 
to a composting toilet.  Best thing I ever did!

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
Annapolis, MD (presently in Baltimore)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 7:42 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Landfall 38
>  
> Hi
> I am refitting my vessel (purchased last spring) and after a total rebuild of 
> the standing rig, and underwater, I am now launched and working on the inside 
> stuff.
> In other words, I am safe to go sailing, but cannot cook, sleep or use the 
> bathroom.
> Which brings me to the subject line.
> The vessel has a Holding tank listed in the manual as standard equipment and 
> located under the Nav Station seat.
> I definitely have a tank there. I removed it and iIt is even labeled as ‘HT’ 
> but was clearly hooked up to the water system. Even the deck fill says 
> ‘Water’.
> So now I have figured out what I need to do. I have a suction fitting and 
> stand pipe on hand, and even a clean out port kit.
> Also I have ripped out the original FW piping, filters etc, so there is no 
> connection to the FW system.
> I want to have the option of;
> a.   Discharge directly Overboard or to HT.
> b.  Pump out HT with Hand pump (Like a Whale) to either Deck discharge or 
> Overboard.
> c.   Have the pump out handle easily accessible but not obvious, from 
> either in the washroom or through the bulkhead at the nav station seat.
> I have all the system schematics and know what I want to do, but the problem 
> is that I have VERY limited space under the vanity in the Washroom.
> To accomplish this, I need the absolute minimum bend radius, 1-1/2” hose that 
> is also sanitation suitable, with no odor permeation, and OK for below 
> waterline.
> I’d rather do it in an original head on the bow, than have a smelly boat.
> Have researched catalogues, google, you tube, you name it, and am now totally 
> confused.
> There are great hoses by Shields and Trident with great flexibility, but 
> don’t meet the criteria.
> (btw – I believe that most of the real bendy, “not suitable for below 
> waterline’ hoses are OK, but because catalogues are now written by Engineers 
> and Lawyers, they opt on the side of extreme caution. )
> Hence the post is for advice on what others have used for hose in similar 
> situations.
> I am sure that Fred and Wally will have the answer immediately.
> Appreciate the assistance.
> Thanks
>  
> John
> Landfall 38
> #234
> No name
>  
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Stus-List Guidance required on Sewage hose type - LF38

[John Sandford via CnC-List]

Landfall 38

 

Hi

I am refitting my vessel (purchased last spring) and after a total rebuild
of the standing rig, and underwater, I am now launched and working on the
inside stuff.

In other words, I am safe to go sailing, but cannot cook, sleep or use the
bathroom.

Which brings me to the subject line.

The vessel has a Holding tank listed in the manual as standard equipment and
located under the Nav Station seat.

I definitely have a tank there. I removed it and iIt is even labeled as 'HT'
but was clearly hooked up to the water system. Even the deck fill says
'Water'.

So now I have figured out what I need to do. I have a suction fitting and
stand pipe on hand, and even a clean out port kit.

Also I have ripped out the original FW piping, filters etc, so there is no
connection to the FW system.

I want to have the option of;

a.   Discharge directly Overboard or to HT.

b.  Pump out HT with Hand pump (Like a Whale) to either Deck discharge
or Overboard.

c.   Have the pump out handle easily accessible but not obvious, from
either in the washroom or through the bulkhead at the nav station seat.

I have all the system schematics and know what I want to do, but the problem
is that I have VERY limited space under the vanity in the Washroom.

To accomplish this, I need the absolute minimum bend radius, 1-1/2" hose
that is also sanitation suitable, with no odor permeation, and OK for below
waterline.

I'd rather do it in an original head on the bow, than have a smelly boat.

Have researched catalogues, google, you tube, you name it, and am now
totally confused.

There are great hoses by Shields and Trident with great flexibility, but
don't meet the criteria.

(btw - I believe that most of the real bendy, "not suitable for below
waterline' hoses are OK, but because catalogues are now written by Engineers
and Lawyers, they opt on the side of extreme caution. )

Hence the post is for advice on what others have used for hose in similar
situations.

I am sure that Fred and Wally will have the answer immediately.

Appreciate the assistance.

Thanks

 

John

Landfall 38

#234

No name 

 

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 heater hose. (water heater)

[Dave via CnC-List]

Thanks - Josh, looks like the same stuff, or very similar.   will pursue Eaton 
hose distributors here.   
Doug, it is indeed similar to heater hose, except it has an additional outer 
jacket extruded over it.   The black inner part is identical to automotive 
heater hose, dimensionally, and it appears, in terms of construction also.   
Looks like C used the good stuff, and it hadn't failed yet, so I suppose it 
paid off.   Looking to replace to re route the hoses a bit, and as part of my 
general re-hosing.   

Thanks.  

Dave.  


Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 20:00:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: svpegasu...@gmail.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 heater hose. (water heater)
Message-ID: <000f4242.0abe78e047a73...@gmail.com>
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   Looks like standard automotive heater hose.?
   Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.



Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 02:23:19 +
From: Josh Muckley 
To: "C List" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 heater hose. (water heater)
Message-ID:
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Looks like hose we use at work.  We call it boston marathon but I think the
real name is boston marathoner made by eaton.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Aug 10, 2016 9:54 PM, "Dave Syer via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi all,Any idea what this hose is?   Similar to yer basic heater hose,
> but with an extra jacket.   Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Dave


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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Mine’s bigger…   :^)

And I’ll be heading up there in a few hours.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Funny Fred, I was thinking the same thing about Lake Huron!

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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

[Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List]

Funny Fred, I was thinking the same thing about Lake Huron!

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joe — I defy you to feel confined on Lake Superior…   :^)
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It is not lakes forever. Just get the boat home and repair her. Then
> decide where to sail.
> BTW – speaking of lakes – I have a weird psychological issue with being
> stuck in a lake with no exit. Even if you never get 5 miles from home, I
> like to know I can get out and go someplace if I want to. The Ohio River
> does eventually lead to the ocean and anyplace you want to be. My brother
> lives on Lake Norman, a very popular sailing lake, and has no interest in
> being “confined” there, even though I saw a Beneteau 40 under chute once on
> a 12 mile lake!
>
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[David Platt via CnC-List]

I tow mine on the front of the second stern wave.  It can surf down the 
front of the wave to reduce pull on the tow line but should not run up 
against your stern in following waves.  I do keep a small fender on the 
tow line about 4 feet in front of the dinghy and when I stop the dinghy 
usually stops at the fender/float.



david

C Wanderer

On 2016-08-10 12:16 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List wrote:
We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had 
one incident when it turned over.



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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Even if it was not "connected", Superior is more of a sea than a lake. 

Steve Thomas
  - Original Message - 
  From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
  To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
  Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:46
  Subject: Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing


  I wouldn’t, it connects to other lakes and rivers and some of them lead to 
the ocean and eventually to my house. I could sail there from here and vice 
versa. Lake Norman, not so much….

  Joe

  Coquina

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
G Street via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:42 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Frederick G Street
  Subject: Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

   

  Joe — I defy you to feel confined on Lake Superior…   :^)

   

  — Fred


  Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

   

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug!

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Ha ha!  Stupid auto correct! 
Danny 


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 Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/12/16  11:44 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug! 
Just to be clear, I do NOT install elections; I don’t want to be accused by 
either side of rigging things…   :^)
Thanks for the nice recommendation, Danny — I’m glad everything is working well.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

(Trying to poke fun at politics without going all political…)

On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:
I just wanted to plug Fred and his consulting.  I asked for his help on my 
elections install
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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I wouldn’t, it connects to other lakes and rivers and some of them lead to the 
ocean and eventually to my house. I could sail there from here and vice versa. 
Lake Norman, not so much….
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

Joe — I defy you to feel confined on Lake Superior…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> wrote:

It is not lakes forever. Just get the boat home and repair her. Then decide 
where to sail.
BTW – speaking of lakes – I have a weird psychological issue with being stuck 
in a lake with no exit. Even if you never get 5 miles from home, I like to know 
I can get out and go someplace if I want to. The Ohio River does eventually 
lead to the ocean and anyplace you want to be. My brother lives on Lake Norman, 
a very popular sailing lake, and has no interest in being “confined” there, 
even though I saw a Beneteau 40 under chute once on a 12 mile lake!

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug!

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Just to be clear, I do NOT install elections; I don’t want to be accused by 
either side of rigging things…   :^)

Thanks for the nice recommendation, Danny — I’m glad everything is working well.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

(Trying to poke fun at politics without going all political…)

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just wanted to plug Fred and his consulting.  I asked for his help on my 
> elections install

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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision; Lake sailing

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Joe — I defy you to feel confined on Lake Superior…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is not lakes forever. Just get the boat home and repair her. Then decide 
> where to sail.
> BTW – speaking of lakes – I have a weird psychological issue with being stuck 
> in a lake with no exit. Even if you never get 5 miles from home, I like to 
> know I can get out and go someplace if I want to. The Ohio River does 
> eventually lead to the ocean and anyplace you want to be. My brother lives on 
> Lake Norman, a very popular sailing lake, and has no interest in being 
> “confined” there, even though I saw a Beneteau 40 under chute once on a 12 
> mile lake! 
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com 
>  
> Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug!

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Danny,

How long are you in Cuttyhunk?  Son and I are planning to head over tomorrow 
and hoping to find an open mooring inside if we get there early enough.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug!

 

I just wanted to plug Fred and his consulting.  I asked for his help on my 
elections install,  off list, and offered to pay for his service.   Fred Gave 
me a good price for the fee and was a huge help.   He diagrams the system and 
answered all of my questions made good suggestions and supplied all of the 
pieces I needed for the complete install!  I could not recommend his consult 
for a fee service enough! 

 

Thanks again Fred!

 

Oh and radar is working.  I think I did not wait long enough for a warm up.

 

Danny!

Laying in cuttyhunk

 

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

 

 Original message 

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List  > 

Date: 8/12/16 9:22 AM (GMT-05:00) 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Cc: Frederick G Street  > 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine eS78 at WestMarine $849.99 

 

Evan — that’s less than I can get it for, and a great deal!  I assume this is 
the model with the Lighthouse (NOAA) vector charts; you may want to explore 
getting the Navionics+ North America chart chip for better coverage.

 

And I’d be glad to help consult for you to get your new gear interconnected, 
and get you pricing on any other gear you’re looking for.

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Aug 12, 2016, at 7:59 AM, E Morgan via CnC-List  > wrote:

 

This is mainly directed to Fred, but I thought listers might want to know that 
West has the eS78 on sale today only.

Fred, we're starting to get serious about a new electronics suite for our 
bluewater boat and since she already has a solid Raymarine autopilot (SPX-30 
core), I'm going to stick with Ray and the eS78 is on my list.

I'm sure I'll be contacting you off list for a quote (that you so graciously 
offer us listers) on everything but wanted to know if I should jump on this 
particular deal. Even with tax, I'm out the door for $899.49.

Thanks!

Evan

Wind Affair, C Encounter, Indianapolis

Revery, P424, Merritt Island

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Stus-List Raymarine eS78... now Fred street plug!

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I just wanted to plug Fred and his consulting.  I asked for his help on my 
elections install,  off list, and offered to pay for his service.   Fred Gave 
me a good price for the fee and was a huge help.   He diagrams the system and 
answered all of my questions made good suggestions and supplied all of the 
pieces I needed for the complete install!  I could not recommend his consult 
for a fee service enough! 
Thanks again Fred!
Oh and radar is working.  I think I did not wait long enough for a warm up.
Danny!Laying in cuttyhunk
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/12/16  9:22 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Raymarine eS78 at WestMarine $849.99 
Evan — that’s less than I can get it for, and a great deal!  I assume this is 
the model with the Lighthouse (NOAA) vector charts; you may want to explore 
getting the Navionics+ North America chart chip for better coverage.
And I’d be glad to help consult for you to get your new gear interconnected, 
and get you pricing on any other gear you’re looking for.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


On Aug 12, 2016, at 7:59 AM, E Morgan via CnC-List  
wrote:
This is mainly directed to Fred, but I thought listers might want to know that 
West has the eS78 on sale today only.

Fred, we're starting to get serious about a new electronics suite for our 
bluewater boat and since she already has a solid Raymarine autopilot (SPX-30 
core), I'm going to stick with Ray and the eS78 is on my list.
I'm sure I'll be contacting you off list for a quote (that you so graciously 
offer us listers) on everything but wanted to know if I should jump on this 
particular deal. Even with tax, I'm out the door for $899.49.

Thanks!

Evan
Wind Affair, C Encounter, Indianapolis
Revery, P424, Merritt Island___

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Stus-List Raymarine eS78 at WestMarine $849.99

[E Morgan via CnC-List]

This is mainly directed to Fred, but I thought listers might want to know
that West has the eS78 on sale today only.

Fred, we're starting to get serious about a new electronics suite for our
bluewater boat and since she already has a solid Raymarine autopilot
(SPX-30 core), I'm going to stick with Ray and the eS78 is on my list.
I'm sure I'll be contacting you off list for a quote (that you so
graciously offer us listers) on everything but wanted to know if I should
jump on this particular deal. Even with tax, I'm out the door for $899.49.

Thanks!

Evan
Wind Affair, C Encounter, Indianapolis
Revery, P424, Merritt Island
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