Re: Stus-List 3QM30 Head Gasket

[Glenn Gambel via CnC-List]

I paid a professional to do mine last summer.  Your price is not bad.  
It is more difficult than it looks.  I ended up with new heads as there 
was a hairline crack in the head.  He found it by xray, I believe.  We 
ran into difficulty finding a the new head and found it in Wisconsin.  
Had I tried this myself, I may not have found the crack and therefore 
would have made a real mess of the repair and spent a bunch more money 
doing it again.  Just my thoughts on having gone through this.


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From: "David via CnC-List" 
To: "CNC CNC" 
Cc: "David" 
Sent: 9/8/2016 2:40:32 PM
Subject: Stus-List 3QM30 Head Gasket

So...we are leaving harbor  to make our way down to Mystic for the 
Rendezvous.   As I usually do I turn around and check the exhaust for 
water and color.


Today the color as darkish grey and it looked like oil was coming out 
as well.


I do an immediate 180 and go back to the mooring.

Mechanic is out within the hour and confirms my suspicions. Head 
gasket.  To do the job right (injectors, planing head etc) he estimates 
$2,500 to $3,000.  I think the price is fair but I wonder if I could do 
it myself.   Anyone have any experiences around this?   I am a fair 
mechanic, but I don't want to be penny-wise of pound foolish and I have 
never done anything like this before.


Thanks in advance...



David F. Risch
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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Sam Wheeler via CnC-List]

I have a very nice USN bell from the previous owners and use it in the same
manner as Chuck.  It gets a lot of use.

Sam
35-3 Scoundrel
SF

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have a bell on board and ring it at the start of cocktail hour(s).
> Although when we do that, it seems to attract other sailors to our boat and
> we can’t understand why….
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 LF 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:55 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Nav rules questions
>
>
>
> So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?
>
> How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?
>
> What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction
> date?)
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
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Re: Stus-List 2016 Northeast Rendezvous

[David via CnC-List]

Rob,

As an unintended non-attendee we were looking forward to the whole interactive 
experience.

Good job and lets look upward and onward to next year...Go Don!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:20:39 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 2016 Northeast Rendezvous
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: trys...@gmail.com

Listers,
This years Northeast Rendezvous has come to an end. The Mystic Seaport staff 
gave us an amazing tour of their behind the scenes world and a fascinating 
Amistad themed planetarium show.  To top it all off we viewed Saturn, Polaris, 
Mars and more through a telescope they set up riverside by the Morgan.
Recipe for a very special long weekend:Old friendsNew friendsTall ships & small 
shipsClassic plastic C&C yachtsArtScienceSeafaring Americana,A big splash of 
whiskeyMix with crushed ice and sunshine, serve with a good meal
We didn't have the numbers attending this year that we have had in previous 
years but it was a blast. Don Sweeney has plans underway for next years event. 
Let's help him keep keep the tradition alive.
Ama and I are already looking forward to Greenport, NY next year.
Big thanks to all,

Rob Gallagher88 30 MKIIHANUMAN
Sent from my device so excuse the typos. 



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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Indigo via CnC-List]

In my country of origin (UK) ringing the bell indicates "last orders" before 
the bar stops serving!  That would surely create a rush of sailors to your boat 
to get one in!

--
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Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:43, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Although when we do that, it seems to attract other sailors to our boat and 
> we can’t understand why…


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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Ryan,

You are welcome to MRYC if you want. Actually , as you know, only about 3 hrs 
from Toms River to MRYC depending on tide in the canal.

Probably makes sense to run one day up to Atlantic Highlands , then next day up 
to SBYC. Shark River is only 5 miles north of Manasquan.

Concern with Shark. If its a snotty day in the ocean you have to wait outside 
the inlet till the bridge opens. Secondly not sure where you would stay

up there? not really spots to anchor I don't think.

Jim



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Ryan Doyle via 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

Andy, Allen, and Jim,

Thanks for the responses and Jim thanks very much for the offer for the 
overnight.  I really might just take you up on that if we do spend the night on 
the Manasquan.

I was asking about Shark River Inlet because I'll just be coming from Toms 
River on my way to NYC.  So, I was hoping to make it further North than 
Manasquan Saturday, and then Sunday do the ocean sail up to the Sheepshead Bay 
Yacht club in Brooklyn where I'll be keeping her for the winter.

I could do it in a straight shot from Toms River, but I've done this trip 
before (in the opposite direction) and splitting it over two days makes it much 
more fun - and allows for more sailing.  When I sailed from Brooklyn to Toms 
River in the spring we overnighted on the Manasquan.

However, it sounds like Shark River inlet is pretty hairy...  What exactly 
makes it hairy?  Breaking waves?  Current?

Ryan
1976 30-1

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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

No bell required.  Per USCG during UPV inspection.  Just loud noise
device.  Whistles and horns count.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 14, 2016 4:56 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?
>
> How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?
>
> What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction
> date?)
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Anchor Ball and Motoring Cone

[schiller via CnC-List]

Corsair (named Red Pepper when she was raced in the Chicago-Mackinaw 
races) came with both an Anchor Ball and a Motoring Cone.  I still have 
them stored at the Nav Station.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan

On 9/14/2016 10:39 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:


West sells a fold up anchor ball for a relatively cheap $17. But I bet 
they don’t sell many. I’d not have a clue as to where you could go to 
buy a steaming cone. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen either one of 
these actually being used by a small boat. I do occasionally see day 
shapes displayed on the larger shrimp trawlers in our waters, but not 
often.


Rick Brass

Washington, NC

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*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:59 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Marek Dziedzic 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

Rick,

you do (so triple points for you (each point can be converted to a 
drink of your choice when visiting on my boat)). Though, I should have 
said that professionals should not apply (;-).


I don’t have the day shapes either, but I have to say that a long 
while ago I used to sail on a boat that regularly displayed the black 
ball when anchoring. And we used to carry both the black ball and the 
black cone. However, I don’t remember ever displaying the inverted 
cone. And I don’t think I ever saw an inverted cone displayed.


Marek

Ottawa, ON



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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Chuck,

Small world. My son is a Brielle Police officer and last summer he was the 
marine officer. Not much has changed, railroad bridge still a place of drama, 
and the usual abuse of the no wake zones. One big change however that has taken 
place is the Manasquan Inlet is no longer a no wake zone.

btw I believe the we still  have the whaler you rode around in in 1975! It was 
given to Brielle fire company as a rescue boat.(its tired!)

Jim

Galaxy 34'

Brielle, NJ



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Gilchrest via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ


Many years back (1975-76), I was the Brielle Police marine officer on Manasquan 
River and managed traffic between the Railroad drawbridge and the Rt 35 bridge 
span.  We had numerous incidents of boats being pinned sideways on the railroad 
bridge by the current when they wouldn’t allow sufficient room to turn around 
as the bridge was closing.  As mentioned, the bridge stays open for the most 
part, but there’s no set time that the bridge closes to marine traffic since it 
is subject to the rail schedule as opposed to a specific “minutes before or 
after the hour”.  It was also common for boats to run aground just east of the 
rail bridge if they tried to cut the channel markers on the wrong side..

All told, it was still a fun summer job during college years..

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:06 PM
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Cc: jim aridas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ



I live a mile from the manasquan inlet and have sailed in and out of it for the 
last 35 yrs. Its no problem on most tides, deeper towards the north jetty. 
There is a cove just inside the inlet that is safe anchorage. In past the 
railway bridge the rt 35 bridge opens on schedule 15 min after and before the 
hour. The manasquan river is shallow out of the channel.

As for shark river inlet. Lived here all my life, been thru it once, scares the 
crap out of me.

Manasquan River Yacht Club in just west of the 35 bridge. I am the Fleet 
Captain there. If you would like to duck in overnight let me know.

Jim

Galaxy 34'

Brielle





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To: CNC
Cc: Allen Miles
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ



I agree with Andy.  I never entered Shark River because I didn't believe it had 
the vertical clearance.  Used Manasquan many times paying heed to go in on 
slack plus or minus and hour.  Never had a problem:  RR bridge is normally open 
and road bridge, while excruciatingly slow, always answered the call.

Allen Miles

S/V Septima  30-2

Bayville, NJ those days



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I've never been in the Shark River. I've always used Manasquan because it's 
easier and safer. You're right about the currents, but they do run parallel to 
the docks there.

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hey all,



Wondering if anyone here has transited the Shark River Inlet in NJ recently.  
I'm planning to overnight there on a trip up the coast in a couple weeks.



Having transited the Manasquan inlet and river I know the currents rip through 
there and can be absolutely terrifying... especially in a sailboat when they're 
running full strength in a narrow channel and pushing you towards a closed 
drawbridge - not that that happened to me...  ;)



Anyone know if this is the case with Shark River?



Thanks,

Ryan

1976 30-1



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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

We have a bell on board and ring it at the start of cocktail hour(s).  Although 
when we do that, it seems to attract other sailors to our boat and we can’t 
understand why….

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:55 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Nav rules questions

 

So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?

How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  

What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction date?)

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Actually, Defender sells the cones ($15.63 or a better one for $55). If you 
look this up, there are many places that would sell you all shapes (balls, 
cones, double cones and cylinders).

Now we don’t have the excuse?

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:41
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

West sells a fold up anchor ball for a relatively cheap $17. But I bet they 
don’t sell many. I’d not have a clue as to where you could go to buy a steaming 
cone. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen either one of these actually being used 
by a small boat. I do occasionally see day shapes displayed on the larger 
shrimp trawlers in our waters, but not often. 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 
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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

And, BTW, the SH GX2100 radio on my 38 makes the appropriate sounds. You input 
boat information, and tell it if you are in fog or aground, and it does the 
proper signals through the loud hailer.

 

I wonder if that would be a legal substitute for the bell?

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:55 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Nav rules questions

 

So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?

How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  

What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction date?)

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Special designated anchorage or not, I'm displaying my masthead all around
AND a light near deck level in the hopes that Bubba the drunken party barge
driver will see me.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It is not that important, as it really is no bother to display an anchor
> light. I always do, whether required or not. The original discussion was
> started by someone who had found, and was in, a special anchorage and was
> incorrectly told that he was required to display an anchor light. It was a
> good suggestion, but not a legal requirement in that specific case. I
> wouldn't waste time worrying about whether an anchorage is "special" or
> not. It is not really much of a bonus.
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 9/14/2016 10:48 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Must be nice to be in an area that has them.
>
>
>
> Coast Pilot 4 (Cape Henry to Key West) lists only 6:
>
> Simons Island, GA
>
> Ashley River, SC (Charleston area)
>
> St. Johns River, FL
>
> 2 in the Indian River, FL
>
> Okeechobee Waterway, Stuart, FL
>
>
>
> The closest thing we have in NC is at Lockwoods Folly Inlet, but that is
> reserved for military and other vessels carrying up to 8000 tons of
> explosives. And there is an anchorage area off Beaufort NC for cargo
> vessels awaiting space in the state port in Morehead City, NC.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *BillBinaList via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:47 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* BillBinaList  
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electrical Question
>
>
>
> I anchor in special anchorages frequently. They are clearly marked as such
> on charts. They are plentiful in my home sailing area, and many of them
> would not be suitable for anything large or commercial, as they are often
> no more than about 6-12 feet deep. I refer you to US Chart 13205 as an
> example. Maybe you just sail in an area that is not as accommodating to
> recreation. Regardless, if a Coastie told you you needed an anchor light in
> one of those many special anchorages, as the poster said he was told, they
> were wrong. There is no regulation saying you can't display your anchor
> light there, and I recommend that you do. But, it is not required.:-)
>
> § 109.10 Special anchorage areas.
>
> An Act of Congress of April 22, 1940, provides for the designation of
> special anchorage areas wherein vessels not more than sixty-five feet in
> length, when at anchor, will not be required to carry or exhibit anchorage
> lights. Such designation is to be made after investigation, by rule,
> regulation, or order, the procedure for which will be similar to that
> followed for anchorage grounds under section 7 of the Rivers and Harbors
> Act of March 4, 1915, as referred to in § 109.05. The areas so designated
> should be well removed from the fairways and located where general
> navigation will not endanger or be endangered by unlighted vessels. The
> authority to designate special anchorage areas was transferred to and
> vested in the Secretary of Homeland Security by section 902(j) of the Coast
> Guard and Maritime Transportation Act of 2006 (Pub. L. 109-241, 120 Stat
> 516), and delegated to the Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard in Department
> of Homeland Security Delegation No. 0170.1. The Commandant redelegated the
> authority to establish anchorage grounds to each Coast Guard District
> Commander as provided in 33 CFR 1.05
> -1(e)(1)(i).
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

The latest Chart 1 is 12th edition, April 2013, corrected through November 
2013. At least that is what is available for download on the NOAA site as the 
latest edition.

 

I have a bell, a chart1, light list, coast pilots, and all the other stuff 
required on a UPV because I sometimes do small group charters on my 38. I even 
have a navigation app using real NOAA charts (which is what is required to use 
electronic charts in lieu of paper charts updated through the latest LNM) so I 
don’t need to worry about doing chart and publication updates.

 

Someday I’d like to have enough money to afford a boat that needs both a bell 
and a gong. Not that I’d necessarily buy it, but it would be nice to have that 
much money.

 

Unfortunately I found out yesterday that the nav App I use is going to be 
replaced next year. So I’m going to need to find a replacement that uses real 
NOAA charts and includes automatic updates.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:55 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Nav rules questions

 

So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?

How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  

What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction date?)

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I don't think this is unique to Maryland. I put my anchor light on when going 
ashore for the evening as it makes finding my boat in a dark crowded anchorage 
so much easier upon return. If everyone put their anchor lights on my advantage 
would disappear!!

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:02, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> In Maryland at least, moored boats will almost never have an anchor light 
> showing if no one is aboard


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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 I have a bell but my granddaughter rang it so often, the family made me take 
the clapper out!

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4;  1985 C&C 37 CB;Ohio River, Mile 584.4 


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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From: Indigo via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Indigo 
Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 11:06 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

Not many of us have boats over 40 ft so are not required to have a bell on 
board.  I do (legacy from PO) but haven't used it in fog or when at anchor 
(required use!) 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:55, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?
> 
> How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  
> 
> What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction date?)
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

A bell isn't required for boats under 65'
Nav rules are required for boats over 12 Meters.
Doesn't mention Chart 1.
https://www.usps.org/national/vsc/formtool_files/USCGMinReq.pdf

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?
>
> How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?
>
> What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction
> date?)
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Not many of us have boats over 40 ft so are not required to have a bell on 
board.  I do (legacy from PO) but haven't used it in fog or when at anchor 
(required use!) 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:55, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?
> 
> How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  
> 
> What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction date?)
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

In Maryland at least, moored boats will almost never have an anchor light 
showing if no one is aboard, designated anchorage or not. Cheap solar lawn 
lights have changed that a bit, but I would not count on it.
I never could sleep easy with no anchor light on, moored or not. Speaking of 
anchor lights, a masthead level LED anchor light can look very much like an 
airplane or a star unrelated to any boat under it on a hazy night. Deck level 
lights are a big help to avoid drunk powerboats that never look up.
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:57
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question


It is not that important, as it really is no bother to display an anchor light. 
I always do, whether required or not. The original discussion was started by 
someone who had found, and was in, a special anchorage and was incorrectly told 
that he was required to display an anchor light. It was a good suggestion, but 
not a legal requirement in that specific case. I wouldn't waste time worrying 
about whether an anchorage is "special" or not. It is not really much of a 
bonus.

Bill Bina
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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

It is not that important, as it really is no bother to display an anchor 
light. I always do, whether required or not. The original discussion was 
started by someone who had found, and was in, a special anchorage and 
was incorrectly told that he was required to display an anchor light. It 
was a good suggestion, but not a legal requirement in that specific 
case. I wouldn't waste time worrying about whether an anchorage is 
"special" or not. It is not really much of a bonus.


Bill Bina


On 9/14/2016 10:48 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:


Must be nice to be in an area that has them.

Coast Pilot 4 (Cape Henry to Key West) lists only 6:

Simons Island, GA

Ashley River, SC (Charleston area)

St. Johns River, FL

2 in the Indian River, FL

Okeechobee Waterway, Stuart, FL

The closest thing we have in NC is at Lockwoods Folly Inlet, but that 
is reserved for military and other vessels carrying up to 8000 tons of 
explosives. And there is an anchorage area off Beaufort NC for cargo 
vessels awaiting space in the state port in Morehead City, NC.


*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*BillBinaList via CnC-List

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:47 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* BillBinaList 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

I anchor in special anchorages frequently. They are clearly marked as 
such on charts. They are plentiful in my home sailing area, and many 
of them would not be suitable for anything large or commercial, as 
they are often no more than about 6-12 feet deep. I refer you to US 
Chart 13205 as an example. Maybe you just sail in an area that is not 
as accommodating to recreation. Regardless, if a Coastie told you you 
needed an anchor light in one of those many special anchorages, as the 
poster said he was told, they were wrong. There is no regulation 
saying you can't display your anchor light there, and I recommend that 
you do. But, it is not required.:-)


§ 109.10 Special anchorage areas.

An Act of Congress of April 22, 1940, provides for the designation of 
special anchorage areas wherein vessels not more than sixty-five feet 
in length, when at anchor, will not be required to carry or exhibit 
anchorage lights. Such designation is to be made after investigation, 
by rule, regulation, or order, the procedure for which will be similar 
to that followed for anchorage grounds under section 7 of the Rivers 
and Harbors Act of March 4, 1915, as referred to in § 109.05. The 
areas so designated should be well removed from the fairways and 
located where general navigation will not endanger or be endangered by 
unlighted vessels. The authority to designate special anchorage areas 
was transferred to and vested in the Secretary of Homeland Security by 
section 902(j) of the Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation Act of 
2006 (Pub. L. 109-241, 120 Stat 516), and delegated to the Commandant 
of the U.S. Coast Guard in Department of Homeland Security Delegation 
No. 0170.1. The Commandant redelegated the authority to establish 
anchorage grounds to each Coast Guard District Commander as provided 
in 33 CFR 1.05 -1(e)(1)(i).


Bill Bina



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Stus-List Nav rules questions

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

So how many of you have a bell on board and know when to use it?

How many of you have the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?

What is the latest edition of U.S. Chart 1?  (and its latest correction
date?)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Must be nice to be in an area that has them.

 

Coast Pilot 4 (Cape Henry to Key West) lists only 6:

Simons Island, GA

Ashley River, SC (Charleston area)

St. Johns River, FL

2 in the Indian River, FL

Okeechobee Waterway, Stuart, FL

 

The closest thing we have in NC is at Lockwoods Folly Inlet, but that is
reserved for military and other vessels carrying up to 8000 tons of
explosives. And there is an anchorage area off Beaufort NC for cargo vessels
awaiting space in the state port in Morehead City, NC.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
BillBinaList via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: BillBinaList 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

 

I anchor in special anchorages frequently. They are clearly marked as such
on charts. They are plentiful in my home sailing area, and many of them
would not be suitable for anything large or commercial, as they are often no
more than about 6-12 feet deep. I refer you to US Chart 13205 as an example.
Maybe you just sail in an area that is not as accommodating to recreation.
Regardless, if a Coastie told you you needed an anchor light in one of those
many special anchorages, as the poster said he was told, they were wrong.
There is no regulation saying you can't display your anchor light there, and
I recommend that you do. But, it is not required.:-)

§ 109.10 Special anchorage areas.

An Act of Congress of April 22, 1940, provides for the designation of
special anchorage areas wherein vessels not more than sixty-five feet in
length, when at anchor, will not be required to carry or exhibit anchorage
lights. Such designation is to be made after investigation, by rule,
regulation, or order, the procedure for which will be similar to that
followed for anchorage grounds under section 7 of the Rivers and Harbors Act
of March 4, 1915, as referred to in § 109.05. The areas so designated should
be well removed from the fairways and located where general navigation will
not endanger or be endangered by unlighted vessels. The authority to
designate special anchorage areas was transferred to and vested in the
Secretary of Homeland Security by section 902(j) of the Coast Guard and
Maritime Transportation Act of 2006 (Pub. L. 109-241, 120 Stat 516), and
delegated to the Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard in Department of
Homeland Security Delegation No. 0170.1. The Commandant redelegated the
authority to establish anchorage grounds to each Coast Guard District
Commander as provided in 33 CFR 1.05
 -1(e)(1)(i). 

Bill Bina

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

West sells a fold up anchor ball for a relatively cheap $17. But I bet they 
don’t sell many. I’d not have a clue as to where you could go to buy a steaming 
cone. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen either one of these actually being used 
by a small boat. I do occasionally see day shapes displayed on the larger 
shrimp trawlers in our waters, but not often. 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

 

Rick,

 

you do (so triple points for you (each point can be converted to a drink of 
your choice when visiting on my boat)). Though, I should have said that 
professionals should not apply (;-).

 

I don’t have the day shapes either, but I have to say that a long while ago I 
used to sail on a boat that regularly displayed the black ball when anchoring. 
And we used to carry both the black ball and the black cone. However, I don’t 
remember ever displaying the inverted cone. And I don’t think I ever saw an 
inverted cone displayed.

 

Marek

Ottawa, ON

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question Now Black Ball Story...

[David via CnC-List]

Speaking of black balls.

We were in the middle Long Island Sound years ago when I see a large tanker 
heading my way.  So being a good dubie I alter my course to avoid them.I 
look back at the tanker at it appears to have altered its course too...right 
back onto a collision course!

Woah.  So I change again.  So does the ship.  Must have happened a half dozen 
times!   

I'm thinking is this a maritime version of the movie "Duel"?

Finally get close enough to get the binocs on her to get a name.

Didn't get the name but I did see the black ball.

Felt like a bit of an idiot...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:59:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com









Rick,
 
you do (so triple points for you (each point can be converted to a drink of 
your choice when visiting on my boat)). Though, I should have said that 
professionals should not apply (;-).
 
I don’t have the day shapes either, but I have to say that a long while ago 
I used to sail on a boat that regularly displayed the black ball when 
anchoring. 
And we used to carry both the black ball and the black cone. However, I don’t 
remember ever displaying the inverted cone. And I don’t think I ever saw an 
inverted cone displayed.
 
Marek
Ottawa, ON


 

From: Rick 
Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 22:56
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question
 


So I 
get extra credit for knowing it’s a black ball, and double for knowing it’s an 
inverted cone? 
 
No, 
wait,, you don’t need to send anything. The USCG already gave me my Masters’ 
License for knowing this sort of minutia. And, no, I don’t have any day shapes 
aboard any of my boats – including the charter schooner I run. And the USCG has 
never asked.
 
Rick 
Brass
Washington, 
NC
 
 


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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 12:41 PM
To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical 
Question
 



 

Of course we all are 
guilty of not following the rules (e.g. raise hand who regularly displays a day 
shape when anchoring (for extra points, who knows what the day shape for 
anchoring is), or worse yet – who regularly (or even occasionally) displays the 
day shape that is required for a sailing vessel under auxiliary power? (double 
points if you know what that one is without looking 
up)).

 

Marek



 


 

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Rick,

you do (so triple points for you (each point can be converted to a drink of 
your choice when visiting on my boat)). Though, I should have said that 
professionals should not apply (;-).

I don’t have the day shapes either, but I have to say that a long while ago I 
used to sail on a boat that regularly displayed the black ball when anchoring. 
And we used to carry both the black ball and the black cone. However, I don’t 
remember ever displaying the inverted cone. And I don’t think I ever saw an 
inverted cone displayed.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 22:56
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

So I get extra credit for knowing it’s a black ball, and double for knowing 
it’s an inverted cone? 

 

No, wait,, you don’t need to send anything. The USCG already gave me my 
Masters’ License for knowing this sort of minutia. And, no, I don’t have any 
day shapes aboard any of my boats – including the charter schooner I run. And 
the USCG has never asked.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 12:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

 

 

Of course we all are guilty of not following the rules (e.g. raise hand who 
regularly displays a day shape when anchoring (for extra points, who knows what 
the day shape for anchoring is), or worse yet – who regularly (or even 
occasionally) displays the day shape that is required for a sailing vessel 
under auxiliary power? (double points if you know what that one is without 
looking up)).

 

Marek

 

 
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Stus-List Electrical Question

[robert via CnC-List]

Just think Mike, if I had simply bought the Aqua Signal (or a Hunter) 
this discussion might not have taken place.


And after the discussion on the Victory fixture and figuring out how to 
connect it correctly, I am going with the Aqua Signal.


Rob

On 2016-09-14 9:55 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


Rob

Buy a 40 foot boat so we can start this discussion all over again!

Make it a Hunter so it can be even more interesting

Mike

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*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:35 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* robert
*Subject:* Stus-List Electrical Question

Rick:

I got the puzzle solved.you have to take this particular fixture 
(made by Victory) apart to make the appropriate connections..there 
is a common 'ground' for both lights plus the 'positive' and 
'negative'.  In addition to the single wire exiting the back of the 
fixture,  the other two connections are 'brass like screws' inside the 
fixture.why they would do this is mind boggling.why not have 
the three wires exit.


Nevertheless, I am going this morning to buy the $3X more expensive 
Aqua Signal fixture...I was up my mast last evening and that is 
what is there now and that is what I will replace it with.


Trusting everyone is now clear on what is required for navigation 
lights.I think I am.


"If you are under power and also shorter than 12 meters, you may use 
the option of an all-around white light above the red/green instead of 
the stern & masthead lights."


Maybe this is what my fellow club member was referring to when he said 
I didn't need my masthead/steaming light, just my anchor light when 
under power.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32-84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2016-09-14 12:34 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:

I believe someone already answered your question.

The light needs to have at least two connections (power and
ground) if both bulbs are on a single switch.

3 connections is more likely… lets you have independent switch for
steaming and foredeck, plus a common/ground. That’s probably what
you are looking at in the picture – 3 wire in a single insulated
cover.

I suppose you could have 4 wires, with 2 independent grounds, but
why bother?

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Of *robert via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:28 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* robert 

*Subject:* Stus-List Electrical Question


So back to the beginning, the fixture I saw at the Binnacle looks
very much the same as the existing one..I like this as I would
not have to drill new holes to attach but if I have to, so be it.

The new fixture only has one wire to attach whereas mine appears
to have three (not exactly sure as I have not yet removed it from
the mast although there are three existing the base of the mast)
and I have no idea how to connect it.

There must be a logical way to connect it?

Rob





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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Rob

Buy a 40 foot boat so we can start this discussion all over again!

Make it a Hunter so it can be even more interesting

Mike

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CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Electrical Question

Rick:

I got the puzzle solved.you have to take this particular fixture (made by 
Victory) apart to make the appropriate connections..there is a common 
'ground' for both lights plus the 'positive' and 'negative'.  In addition to 
the single wire exiting the back of the fixture,  the other two connections are 
'brass like screws' inside the fixture.why they would do this is mind 
boggling.why not have the three wires exit.

Nevertheless, I am going this morning to buy the $3X more expensive Aqua Signal 
fixture...I was up my mast last evening and that is what is there now and 
that is what I will replace it with.

Trusting everyone is now clear on what is required for navigation lights.I 
think I am.

"If you are under power and also shorter than 12 meters, you may use the option 
of an all-around white light above the red/green instead of the stern & 
masthead lights."

Maybe this is what my fellow club member was referring to when he said I didn't 
need my masthead/steaming light, just my anchor light when under power.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32-84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2016-09-14 12:34 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
I believe someone already answered your question.

The light needs to have at least two connections (power and ground) if both 
bulbs are on a single switch.
3 connections is more likely... lets you have independent switch for steaming 
and foredeck, plus a common/ground. That's probably what you are looking at in 
the picture - 3 wire in a single insulated cover.
I suppose you could have 4 wires, with 2 independent grounds, but why bother?

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert 
Subject: Stus-List Electrical Question


So back to the beginning, the fixture I saw at the Binnacle looks very much the 
same as the existing one..I like this as I would not have to drill new 
holes to attach but if I have to, so be it.

The new fixture only has one wire to attach whereas mine appears to have three 
(not exactly sure as I have not yet removed it from the mast although there are 
three existing the base of the mast) and I have no idea how to connect it.

There must be a logical way to connect it?

Rob







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Stus-List Electrical Question

[robert via CnC-List]

Rick:

I got the puzzle solved.you have to take this particular fixture 
(made by Victory) apart to make the appropriate connections..there 
is a common 'ground' for both lights plus the 'positive' and 
'negative'.  In addition to the single wire exiting the back of the 
fixture,  the other two connections are 'brass like screws' inside the 
fixture.why they would do this is mind boggling.why not have the 
three wires exit.


Nevertheless, I am going this morning to buy the $3X more expensive Aqua 
Signal fixture...I was up my mast last evening and that is what is 
there now and that is what I will replace it with.


Trusting everyone is now clear on what is required for navigation 
lights.I think I am.


"If you are under power and also shorter than 12 meters, you may use the 
option of an all-around white light above the red/green instead of the 
stern & masthead lights."


Maybe this is what my fellow club member was referring to when he said I 
didn't need my masthead/steaming light, just my anchor light when under 
power.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32-84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2016-09-14 12:34 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:


I believe someone already answered your question.

The light needs to have at least two connections (power and ground) if 
both bulbs are on a single switch.


3 connections is more likely… lets you have independent switch for 
steaming and foredeck, plus a common/ground. That’s probably what you 
are looking at in the picture – 3 wire in a single insulated cover.


I suppose you could have 4 wires, with 2 independent grounds, but why 
bother?


*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*robert via CnC-List

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:28 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* robert 
*Subject:* Stus-List Electrical Question


So back to the beginning, the fixture I saw at the Binnacle looks very 
much the same as the existing one..I like this as I would not have 
to drill new holes to attach but if I have to, so be it.


The new fixture only has one wire to attach whereas mine appears to 
have three (not exactly sure as I have not yet removed it from the 
mast although there are three existing the base of the mast) and I 
have no idea how to connect it.


There must be a logical way to connect it?

Rob



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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Many years back (1975-76), I was the Brielle Police marine officer on
Manasquan River and managed traffic between the Railroad drawbridge and the
Rt 35 bridge span.  We had numerous incidents of boats being pinned sideways
on the railroad bridge by the current when they wouldn't allow sufficient
room to turn around as the bridge was closing.  As mentioned, the bridge
stays open for the most part, but there's no set time that the bridge closes
to marine traffic since it is subject to the rail schedule as opposed to a
specific "minutes before or after the hour".  It was also common for boats
to run aground just east of the rail bridge if they tried to cut the channel
markers on the wrong side..

All told, it was still a fun summer job during college years..

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jim aridas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

 

I live a mile from the manasquan inlet and have sailed in and out of it for
the last 35 yrs. Its no problem on most tides, deeper towards the north
jetty. There is a cove just inside the inlet that is safe anchorage. In past
the railway bridge the rt 35 bridge opens on schedule 15 min after and
before the hour. The manasquan river is shallow out of the channel. 

As for shark river inlet. Lived here all my life, been thru it once, scares
the crap out of me. 

Manasquan River Yacht Club in just west of the 35 bridge. I am the Fleet
Captain there. If you would like to duck in overnight let me know.

Jim

Galaxy 34' 

Brielle

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ 

 

I agree with Andy.  I never entered Shark River because I didn't believe it
had the vertical clearance.  Used Manasquan many times paying heed to go in
on slack plus or minus and hour.  Never had a problem:  RR bridge is
normally open and road bridge, while excruciatingly slow, always answered
the call.

Allen Miles

S/V Septima  30-2

Bayville, NJ those days

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I've never been in the Shark River. I've always used Manasquan because it's
easier and safer. You're right about the currents, but they do run parallel
to the docks there. 

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hey all,  

 

Wondering if anyone here has transited the Shark River Inlet in NJ recently.
I'm planning to overnight there on a trip up the coast in a couple weeks.  

 

Having transited the Manasquan inlet and river I know the currents rip
through there and can be absolutely terrifying... especially in a sailboat
when they're running full strength in a narrow channel and pushing you
towards a closed drawbridge - not that that happened to me...  ;)

 

Anyone know if this is the case with Shark River?

 

Thanks,

Ryan

1976 30-1

 

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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[BillBinaList via CnC-List]

I anchor in special anchorages frequently. They are clearly marked as 
such on charts. They are plentiful in my home sailing area, and many of 
them would not be suitable for anything large or commercial, as they are 
often no more than about 6-12 feet deep. I refer you to US Chart 13205 
as an example. Maybe you just sail in an area that is not as 
accommodating to recreation. Regardless, if a Coastie told you you 
needed an anchor light in one of those many special anchorages, as the 
poster said he was told, they were wrong. There is no regulation saying 
you can't display your anchor light there, and I recommend that you do. 
But, it is not required.:-)


§ 109.10 Special anchorage areas.

An Act of Congress of April 22, 1940, provides for the designation of 
special anchorage areas wherein vessels not more than sixty-five feet in 
length, when at anchor, will not be required to carry or exhibit 
anchorage lights. Such designation is to be made after investigation, by 
rule, regulation, or order, the procedure for which will be similar to 
that followed for anchorage grounds under section 7 of the Rivers and 
Harbors Act of March 4, 1915, as referred to in § 109.05. The areas so 
designated should be well removed from the fairways and located where 
general navigation will not endanger or be endangered by unlighted 
vessels. The authority to designate special anchorage areas was 
transferred to and vested in the Secretary of Homeland Security by 
section 902(j) of the Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation Act of 
2006 (Pub. L. 109-241, 120 Stat 516), and delegated to the Commandant of 
the U.S. Coast Guard in Department of Homeland Security Delegation No. 
0170.1. The Commandant redelegated the authority to establish anchorage 
grounds to each Coast Guard District Commander as provided in 33 CFR 
1.05 -1(e)(1)(i).


Bill Bina


On 9/13/2016 11:09 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:


Actually, they didn’t, Bill.

If you look at the list of “Designated Special Anchorages” (and it 
takes some effort to find it) you will see that not one of them is 
anywhere that we would chose to anchor our boats. They are very 
limited and specialized locations populated by larger commercial 
vessels, not just a wide spot in a creek or open space out in the 
river in front of town.


Rick Brass

Washington, NC

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*BillBinaList via CnC-List

*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2016 5:21 PM
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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

Rule 30 part G of the Colregs says those Coasties flunked their exam. 8-)

—INLAND—
Lights and Shapes
RULE 30— CONTINUED
(g) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length, when at anchor in a 
special anchorage area designated by the Secretary, shall not be 
required to exhibit the anchor lights and shapes required by this Rule.



Bill Bina



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