Re: Stus-List Open CPN

[phorvati . via CnC-List]

Great idea.  My phone charts are only as backup but for that price, having
a mpuse is probably well worth it.
On Sep 24, 2016 6:30 PM, "Bill Coleman via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Peter- go to NewEgg and get a USB to go for $1.49 . Heck, while you're at
> it,  get a half dozen and give some to your friends.  You can plug a mouse
> into it and have mouse functionality on your Android or tablet.  Not sure
> about IOS.
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> Bill Coleman
> C 39
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>  Original message 
> From: Petar Horvatic via CnC-List 
> Date: 9/23/16 14:02 (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Petar Horvatic 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN
>
> I put a micro SD on my phone, loaded with those free Coast guard raster
> charts.  Android version of OpenCPN is really nice.   I find myself using
> that more often than the garmin chart plotter.Gps works pretty good.
> I’ve been making a point to see how far off I am from various buoys as go
> past them.  It’s pretty accurate.  Even my kids Tablet Galaxy Tab 2 has a
> version of openCPN, with its own Micro SD card and charts.   He is 8 and
> navigates using his own device.I would trust either of them in an
> emergency.  Obviously you always want redundancy.
>
> Course planning is difficult without a mouse.   I have a 12V PC for that,
> with external GPS via serial port,  running windows version of OpenCPN.
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> Petar Horvatic
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> Sundowner
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> 76 C 38MkII
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> Newport, RI
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:42 PM
> *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Open CPN
>
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>
> I cannot say enough good about it. If it were possible to buy daylight
> waterproof displays for less than a commercial chart plotter costs
> Raytheon, B, Sitex, etc. would all be unable to sell any plotters.
>
> The real downsides are the current demands of a PC and relative fragility
> of the hardware.  I use an ancient IBM ThinkPad as my nav PC. It can run on
> straight 12 volts if need be (I have an 18 volt adapter that charges it and
> runs it) and is NEVER connected to any network EVER. It has nothing on it
> but OpenCPN and PSK-31 software for the SSB.
>
> Joe
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> Coquina
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:32 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Fred Hazzard
> *Subject:* Stus-List Open CPN
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> I am looking for what others think about the open CPN navigation program.
>
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> Fred Hazzard
>
> S/V Fury
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> C 44
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> Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List Open CPN

[Richard Jorgensen via CnC-List]

A Power bank would be a good option to have if your phone or other devices 
(Apple or Android) that are running low on power.  They are small, inexpensive, 
easy to use, come in various sizes and can allow you to continue to use your 
device at the helm without downing it for a charge.  I have found it to be a 
very good investment.
Rick Jorgensen
SeaGoose
C 30 Mk I
Gloucester, Ma

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From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 6:41 PM
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN


You can get a waterproof capacitive touchscreen android or windows tablet for a 
fraction of the price (<$500) of a new MFD.  Install a suite of navigation 
software and wirelessly connect to the OpenPlotter to have all your instruments 
visible at the helm.  The only wire you may have to run would be a power cord 
depending on the length of your journey and the battery life of the device.  
With the proper mount you or another crew member can take the device to the 
foredeck or down below to perform any cartography, plotting, or piloting...or 
just to surf the Internet, Facebook, and take pictures of the adventure at 
hand.  Then again why take the device assigned to the helm when any other 
device on board is equally capable.

Josh

On Sep 23, 2016 2:51 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
This is exactly why I am getting a chartplotter for the helm in addition to 
OpenCPN at the chart table.
Joe
Coquina


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Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 2:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic

Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN

If you are into it, you can get one of the ToughBooks (I think Panasonic makes 
them). They are reasonably priced, provided you get them from some surplus 
supply. If you have access to any of the "Computer for Schools" or similar 
outfit that collects used computers, refurbishes them for schools etc., it is 
quite likely that they would sell you one for around $200-$300. That would be 
probably , a 3-year old system, but the OpenCPN does not need much juice. Even 
better, if you cold run it under Linux.

I had a really old one (I think it was a P4 and running Win XP); I used it for 
my weather station workstation (w/s w/s). It worked fine, but the earlier 
models were not so great in the sun. The later models are better.

However, with all the advantages of the low cost system like that, I still 
think that nothing beats a dedicated chartplotter. You can see it in the sun; 
you don't have to be concerned about splashing water, it (usually) has decent 
controls (I prefer buttons over touch screen); it has a substantially lower 
chance of crashing than any computer, tablet or smartphone. And it does not 
need constant maintenance (other than updating maps). It may not be the fastest 
or the prettiest device, but it chugs along pretty well.

just my $0.02

Marek

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 13:43
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN

I cannot say enough good about it. If it were possible to buy daylight 
waterproof displays for less than a commercial chart plotter costs Raytheon, 
B, Sitex, etc. would all be unable to sell any plotters.
The real downsides are the current demands of a PC and relative fragility of 
the hardware.  I use an ancient IBM ThinkPad as my nav PC. It can run on 
straight 12 volts if need be (I have an 18 volt adapter that charges it and 
runs it) and is NEVER connected to any network EVER. It has nothing on it but 
OpenCPN and PSK-31 software for the SSB.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Fred Hazzard
Subject: Stus-List Open CPN

I am looking for what others think about the open CPN navigation program.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List Open CPN

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You can get a waterproof capacitive touchscreen android or windows tablet
for a fraction of the price (<$500) of a new MFD.  Install a suite of
navigation software and wirelessly connect to the OpenPlotter to have all
your instruments visible at the helm.  The only wire you may have to run
would be a power cord depending on the length of your journey and the
battery life of the device.  With the proper mount you or another crew
member can take the device to the foredeck or down below to perform any
cartography, plotting, or piloting...or just to surf the Internet,
Facebook, and take pictures of the adventure at hand.  Then again why take
the device assigned to the helm when any other device on board is equally
capable.

Josh

On Sep 23, 2016 2:51 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

This is exactly why I am getting a chartplotter for the helm in addition to
OpenCPN at the chart table.

Joe

Coquina





*From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
Dziedzic via CnC-List
*Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 2:48 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Marek Dziedzic

*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Open CPN



If you are into it, you can get one of the ToughBooks (I think Panasonic
makes them). They are reasonably priced, provided you get them from some
surplus supply. If you have access to any of the “Computer for Schools” or
similar outfit that collects used computers, refurbishes them for schools
etc., it is quite likely that they would sell you one for around $200-$300.
That would be probably , a 3-year old system, but the OpenCPN does not need
much juice. Even better, if you cold run it under Linux.



I had a really old one (I think it was a P4 and running Win XP); I used it
for my weather station workstation (w/s w/s). It worked fine, but the
earlier models were not so great in the sun. The later models are better.



However, with all the advantages of the low cost system like that, I still
think that nothing beats a dedicated chartplotter. You can see it in the
sun; you don’t have to be concerned about splashing water, it (usually) has
decent controls (I prefer buttons over touch screen); it has a
substantially lower chance of crashing than any computer, tablet or
smartphone. And it does not need constant maintenance (other than updating
maps). It may not be the fastest or the prettiest device, but it chugs
along pretty well.



just my $0.02



Marek



*From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

*Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 13:43

*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com

*Cc:* Della Barba, Joe

*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Open CPN



I cannot say enough good about it. If it were possible to buy daylight
waterproof displays for less than a commercial chart plotter costs
Raytheon, B, Sitex, etc. would all be unable to sell any plotters.

The real downsides are the current demands of a PC and relative fragility
of the hardware.  I use an ancient IBM ThinkPad as my nav PC. It can run on
straight 12 volts if need be (I have an 18 volt adapter that charges it and
runs it) and is NEVER connected to any network EVER. It has nothing on it
but OpenCPN and PSK-31 software for the SSB.

Joe

Coquina



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] *On Behalf Of *Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
*Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:32 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Fred Hazzard
*Subject:* Stus-List Open CPN



I am looking for what others think about the open CPN navigation program.



Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C 44

Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List Open CPN

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Peter- go to NewEgg and get a USB to go for $1.49 . Heck, while you're at it,  
get a half dozen and give some to your friends.  You can plug a mouse into it 
and have mouse functionality on your Android or tablet.  Not sure about IOS.


Bill Coleman C 39

 Original message 
From: Petar Horvatic via CnC-List  
Date: 9/23/16  14:02  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Petar Horvatic  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN 

I put a micro SD on my phone, loaded with those free Coast guard raster charts. 
 Android version of OpenCPN is really nice.   I find myself using that more 
often than the garmin chart plotter.    Gps works pretty good.  I’ve been 
making a point to see how far off I am from various buoys as go past them.  
It’s pretty accurate.  Even my kids Tablet Galaxy Tab 2 has a version of 
openCPN, with its own Micro SD card and charts.   He is 8 and navigates using 
his own device.    I would trust either of them in an emergency.  Obviously you 
always want redundancy.  Course planning is difficult without a mouse.   I have 
a 12V PC for that, with external GPS via serial port,  running windows version 
of OpenCPN.    Petar HorvaticSundowner76 C 38MkIINewport, RIFrom: 
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:42 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Open CPN I cannot say enough good about it. If it were 
possible to buy daylight waterproof displays for less than a commercial chart 
plotter costs Raytheon, B, Sitex, etc. would all be unable to sell any 
plotters.The real downsides are the current demands of a PC and relative 
fragility of the hardware.  I use an ancient IBM ThinkPad as my nav PC. It can 
run on straight 12 volts if need be (I have an 18 volt adapter that charges it 
and runs it) and is NEVER connected to any network EVER. It has nothing on it 
but OpenCPN and PSK-31 software for the SSB. JoeCoquina From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Fred Hazzard
Subject: Stus-List Open CPN I am looking for what others think about the open 
CPN navigation program. Fred HazzardS/V FuryC 44Portland, Or___

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Went to Raymarine site. It said choose family. It gives me C70 and C90. We have 
C80? So which would I choose? 
 Jim
Sea Ya!
C 38 LF
Washington, NC


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 Original message From: Frederick G Street via 
CnC-List  Date:09/20/2016  8:05 AM  
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G 
Street  Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits 
the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! 
Dave and all: what “announcement” is this, exactly?  I still get 
dealer-only emails from Raymarine, and I haven’t received any announcements 
like the one you reference.  And as Graham mentioned, Raymarine is NOT the only 
one who uses their MFDs to update other system software.  Simrad, B and 
others do exactly the same thing.

Can anyone on the list with a Garmin autopilot update its software with an SD 
card, without having a Garmin MFD on the network?  How about upgrading your 
Furuno instruments?

Getting angry about this doesn’t make much sense to me.  It’s industry-wide.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:44 AM, RANDY via CnC-List  wrote:

Given Raymarine's announcement, maybe I made a lucky choice. :) 

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Re: Stus-List those facts are unbelievable

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I'm sure he's unaware it was hacked


Bill Coleman 

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Date: 9/24/16  10:13  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List those facts are unbelievable 



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Re: Stus-List those facts are unbelievable

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