Stus-List Plastic-Wrapped Spars in Sunlight

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Listers- 

My C 30 Owner's Manual says "DO NOT expose a spar wrapped in plastic to 
direct sunlight." Does anyone know the rationale for this precaution? Was the 
worry that a brand-new spar for a brand-new C boat might be wrapped in thin 
plastic film that would melt in direct sunlight or something? 

Of course, the reason I'm asking is because my rig is down for winter, and 
laying along my trailer side rail, and I've wrapped the lower mast section 
containing the coiled halyards, lower sheaves, cleats, etc. in thick plastic. 
Most of the mast will be shaded all winter but I'm not sure about that section. 

Thanks, 
Randy 
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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List]

She is just sitting there without a boom, like a wounded bird. Who leaves a
boat like that? I wish I could rescue her.

OK, no boom, and probably nothing else much. If that's a genuine C 30
hull, what will it take to fix/build that boat?

Violeta

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> About the time when I got fed up with Sailing Anarchy, there was doofuss
> pontificating about how he had done successive spinnaker peals and gotten
> his Newport 41 (C clone, so it is related) up to 19 knots during a Baja
> HAHA. Sort of the last straw in my realization that there was no one on
> Sailing Anarchy that actually knew bupkus about sailing.
>
>
>
> Come to think of it, he’s probably the guy selling the C 30 in Florida.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:12 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay
>
>
>
> Any of them do 12 knots?
>
> Dennis C.
>
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Re: Stus-List 1973 custom C 43' - hull/deck joint (toe rail replacement?)

[Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List]

Martin,

That's all great information, thanks a lot.

Marek - thanks for the link to the vendor in Maine. I don't know much about
sealants, so it help to get recommendations.

More comments inline on specific topics - lots of food for thought!

Violeta

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Martin DeYoung 
wrote:


> From MIT's sailing web site I find "X Dimension" was originally "Night
> Train".  I have pictures of "Night Train" being built at Bruckmann's with
> the design/build team and Blair Vedder standing in the partially completed
> hull before the deck is added.  The deck is upside down next to the hull.
> (You will be able to see the hull and deck flanges.)  I obtained the
> pictures from Nick Vedder (Blair's son) who now lives in the Seattle area,
> we are members at the same yacht club.  We met down on Calypso one
> afternoon to talk 43's.  Nick now owns a Beneteau 52 named "Night Train".
>
Have you seen these photos?
http://sailing.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/X-Dimension_history

Do you have other photos, too?

I will send the digital pics to your email in the next few days.  Regarding
> the C drawings, I have both paper and digital copies of all the 43
> drawing the museum curator could locate.  I expect you are only looking for
> any hull to deck details.  If you agree to send the museum a donation for
> each digital pic we should avoid any copy right issues, and the museum is
> providing a great service to us C aficionados.  IIRC the digital copies
> were $5 each.  How much build detail are you interested in?
>
Payment for photos, drawings, service, etc., is up to the MIT sailing
master, so I'll let him know. I've no idea if that can be processed as
donation to the museum, but I'm sure that MIT will respect all copyright,
so no worries. I'm emailing you separately about the copies.

Not only hull to deck details actually. I am interested in all structural
details relevant to XD.


> >... If we were to reuse some of the toe rail, how would one clean and
> treat that?
>
> -- We have used scotch bright type adhesive wheels on a drill motor to
> clean off the corrosion, prime with a zinc aluminum spray primer, then
> painted black with marine grade engine spray paint.  Others here have
> recommended Rust-o-ileum paint.
>
> >... What about custom extrusion, if we can't find a match for the T-rail?
>
> -- Custom extrusions are very expensive. I have done several for aircraft
> related products and the tooling is a little pricey for a small
> quantity. For a short or partial section having something machined and
> anodized may be affordable.  For a long section I expect you could find a
> similar C related toe rail section that would fit in.  Klacko has been
> mentioned as one of the hardware suppliers for the 14 or 15 "Limited" C
> built by Bruckmanns.
>

I'll pass this information to the guys and gals working on XD. I am out of
state now, so I am only helping with the research.


> >... And wouldn't the hull and deck separate, once the bolts are removed?
> It seems essential to do one section at a time. How big a section?
>
> --If I was doing this project I would temporarily replace each bolt as it
> became possible.  The 43's have each athwart ships and longitudinal
> bulkheads glassed to the deck so the risk of any hull distortion is nil so
> don't stress over a missed bolt or two.
>
Oh my. I *finally* get this! Of course, bulkheads would be glassed to the
deck, too. Boat building is new to me, but I have structural engineering
background, so I should have thought of it myself. I didn't until you
mentioned it. I was too focused on the hull/deck joint along the perimeter.

Not to worry much then, I agree. Just proceed with caution, etc. Those
drawings will really help, too!

Now I want to build a boat myself. The boat I want doesn't seem to exist
yet. But that's for another discussion. :)

>... Finally, out of curiosity, I found Evening Star (with the teak rail)
> listed for sale online. She is beautiful! But XD is better. :)
>
> -- I also believe Calypso (nee Arieto (70's based in Boston), Phantom
> and Esta Es based on the Great Lakes) is better.. but Dave Utley's
> restoration and upgrades to "Evening Star" made her the queen of the west
> coast 43's.  Dave traded "Evening Star" for the C 48 now known as
> "Morning Star", completed a similar restoration/upgrade then sailed her up
> and down the east coast.  "Morning Star" is also listed for sale here in
> the Seattle area.
>

So we have XD, Calypso, Evening Star, Phantom, and Esta Es so far, five of
the custom 43' sisters. I think there were nine more. Do you know what
happened to all of them?

Violeta


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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

About the time when I got fed up with Sailing Anarchy, there was doofuss 
pontificating about how he had done successive spinnaker peals and gotten his 
Newport 41 (C clone, so it is related) up to 19 knots during a Baja HAHA. 
Sort of the last straw in my realization that there was no one on Sailing 
Anarchy that actually knew bupkus about sailing.

 

Come to think of it, he’s probably the guy selling the C 30 in Florida.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:12 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

 

Any of them do 12 knots?

Dennis C.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

3M makes a rubber wheel specifically for that purpose. Go to any auto parts 
store that carries body shop supplies and ask for a 3M Stripe Eraser/

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John McKay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

 

How are you going to remove the mylar. The stripe on Enterprise is in bad 
shape, almost looks like it is many pieces about 2" long placed end to end.

 

John on Enterprise

 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 > wrote:

 

I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?

 

Any other relevant advice welcome

 

Cheers,

Doug

Celtic Knot

85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List Thinking of a Wheel to Tiller Conversion

[David Kaseler via CnC-List]

I have no experience with the 32 so should not comment but I have an early 33 
(1975) which was converted from wheel to tiller by a prior owner. In our case 
we would have it no other way. Our only modification was to replace the tiller 
with a longer version so my wife, the skipper sits up against the bulkhead on 
the seat or the combing. When tacking the crew is behind the skipper working 
the primary winches which are aft of the seats. In this way the crew stands 
over the winch to get maximum leverage and the skipper's view is not obstructed 
by the crew during tacking or gibing. If racing is your main activity I believe 
this is the way to go. It also keeps the weight forward except during tacks and 
gibes. As far as cockpit space is concerned, we have not seen this as a 
problem. And while not sailing, the tiller can be raised out of the way against 
the backstay. 
That's my two cents. Good luck with your conversion.
Dave. C 33 SLY

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Rod
>  
> Another option is to move your winches further aft to the spinnaker winch 
> location.  If you do not sail with a crew this is a good option and is how 
> Persistence was set up when we bought it.  Unfortunately for a crewed 
> situation or for racing you have your spinnaker trimmers facing a bit aft and 
> twisted while trimming genoa.  For those reasons we reconfigured our boat 
> back to its original configuration with primaries forward, spinnaker (or 
> secondaries) aft and a set of winches on coachroof for halyards and other 
> control lines.  That said for your purposes it may be an option and is not 
> difficult nor expensive to do.
>  
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of roderick 
> anderson via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 7:27 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: roderick anderson
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Thinking of a Wheel to Tiller Conversion
>  
> Mike, that's a great idea and that would work well for me. Oddly enough my 32 
> was never rigged for a spinnaker but I can certainly take care of that. 
> Thanks!
> Rod
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[henry evans via CnC-List]

Hi Randy,
The cove stripes and stars were actually moulded in as part of the hull.
We had about 4 or 5 really true Master Boat Builders at C who knew every 
detail of manufacturing yachts.  Gert Tiel was one of those and a real gem.  
Not to mention, one heck of a nice guy.  
When we retired on our 43' trawler "Queen Ann's Revenge" we returned to 
Youngstown, and our home club YYC, twice in our 31,000 miles of cruising. On 
our second trip, I had the pleasure of running into Gert at YYC while he was 
surveying a boat.  We had a nice visit about the good old days at C  
Cheers,
Hank 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:15 PM, RANDY  
wrote:
 

 Hank thanks for sharing that - it's awesome to hear from people who were 
there.  Earlier this year I had a phone call with Gert Tiel, when I was trying 
to figure out how to get my exterior handrails off (turns out a screw head was 
covered by a piece of bulkhead trim, among other issues).  I own C 30 MK I 
hull #7 and race her in Colorado - pictures at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTY0VBM2hlT0hveDQ.  Even in 1972 
when my boat was built, C was leaving a gap in the cove stripe for a boat 
name, which a "brochure boat" had 
(http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/30foot/30b2pg01.htm).  My boat's cove 
stripes and stars are routed out and painted.
Cheers,Randy StaffordS/V GrenadineC 30-1 #7Ken Caryl, COFrom: "henry evans 
via CnC-List" 
To: "cnc-list" 
Cc: "henry evans" , "Paul Cannon" 
, "Don Finkle" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:33:02 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

When I first joined C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) were 
painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter.  A few years 
later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. The 
stars remained gold painted.  Later on we offered the cove and stars in a 
variety of colors to match boot stripes.  The stars remained painted long after 
the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. 
It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never 
standardized.  If you look at C's over the years some of the stars are short 
and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between.  I 
remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a 
"signature" of C and should be standardized.  That never happened while I was 
there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds 
as to how the stars looked. 
A side story about coves and stars :  Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, 
nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht 
Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The 
Lake where C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on 
Lake Ontario and had many C's over the years. While I was working there, he 
went to RCR Yachts for a new C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown 
sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out 
the details of what he wanted on the boat.  After all the specifics of winches, 
halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief 
case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars".  
I told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the 
nozzle and told him what Butch wanted.  Everyone at C knew Butch and the 
plant manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% 
complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding.  He looked at 
the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ?  
I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held 
it up to the stars.  The color match was perfect !  Butch just smiled and I 
handed him back his nozzle.  Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good 
friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 
1985.  We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. 
Cheers,
Hank

 On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

I used this Ferro Stripe Eliminator Kit #4000 : 4000 : Noahsmarine.com . It 
worked but I consumed an entire wheel just doing 80% of one side. The 3M 
version probably works better, but I haven't used it. I was able to blow the 
mylar off the other side with a 1900 PSI pressure washer, however it left the 
adhesive strip behind and I'm not sure how I will remove that 
  
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 We have ferro STRIPE ELIMINATOR KIT #4000 - 4000 in stock along with other 
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On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:18 PM, John McKay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 How are you going to remove the mylar. The stripe on Enterprise is in bad 
shape, almost looks like it is many pieces about 2" long placed end to end.
John on Enterprise 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Hank thanks for sharing that - it's awesome to hear from people who were there. 
Earlier this year I had a phone call with Gert Tiel, when I was trying to 
figure out how to get my exterior handrails off (turns out a screw head was 
covered by a piece of bulkhead trim, among other issues). I own C 30 MK I 
hull #7 and race her in Colorado - pictures at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTY0VBM2hlT0hveDQ . Even in 1972 
when my boat was built, C was leaving a gap in the cove stripe for a boat 
name, which a "brochure boat" had ( 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/30foot/30b2pg01.htm ). My boat's cove 
stripes and stars are routed out and painted. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
- Original Message -

From: "henry evans via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "henry evans" , "Paul Cannon" 
, "Don Finkle"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:33:02 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover 

When I first joined C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) were 
painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter. A few years 
later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. The 
stars remained gold painted. Later on we offered the cove and stars in a 
variety of colors to match boot stripes. The stars remained painted long after 
the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. 

It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never 
standardized. If you look at C's over the years some of the stars are short 
and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between. I 
remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a 
"signature" of C and should be standardized. That never happened while I was 
there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds 
as to how the stars looked. 

A side story about coves and stars : Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, 
nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht 
Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The 
Lake where C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on 
Lake Ontario and had many C's over the years. While I was working there, he 
went to RCR Yachts for a new C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown 
sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out 
the details of what he wanted on the boat. After all the specifics of winches, 
halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief 
case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars". I 
told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the 
nozzle and told him what Butch wanted. Everyone at C knew Butch and the plant 
manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% 
complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding. He looked at 
the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ? 
I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held 
it up to the stars. The color match was perfect ! Butch just smiled and I 
handed him back his nozzle. Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good 
friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 
1985. We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. 

Cheers, 

Hank 


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote: 


I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original? 

Any other relevant advice welcome 

Cheers, 
Doug 
Celtic Knot 
85 33-2 cb 

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[henry evans via CnC-List]

Parts of the Mylar will peel off like masking tape.  Other parts may require a 
curved Exacto model knife to remove the tape.  Try Goo Be Gone or 97% rubbing 
alcohol from the drug store to get the sticky parts off.  If all else fails, 
Acetone, used carefully, will get it off. 
Cheers,
Hank  

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:18 PM, John McKay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 How are you going to remove the mylar. The stripe on Enterprise is in bad 
shape, almost looks like it is many pieces about 2" long placed end to end.
John on Enterprise 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[henry evans via CnC-List]

Hi Chris,
Good story.
One of the neat things about working at C in the "glory days" was having a 
custom wood shop. Actually, we had 3. One at NOTL, one in Newport and one at 
the custom shop in Oakville. Not sure if the plant in Keil, Germany had one or 
not. The master woodworkers in those shops could do anything. 
It gave us the flexibility to do custom "touches" which were often the requests 
of the Lady.  It was not difficult to build a custom teak pot holder, stereo 
rack or vanity for cosmetics. And it was often the little touchs that made the 
sale. When I did my C 29 out of the Rhode Island plant I was pipe smoker and, 
much to my surprise, it came with a 3 station custom teak pipe holder at the 
chart table and even a teak "pipe". 
It was great fun working for company that was sitting in the catbird seat of 
the industry, building the best and fastest boats and being able to give an 
owner exactly what he wanted. It was a heady time in the marine business and I 
am glad I was part of it back then.
Cheers,
Hank   

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:12 PM, Chris Duer  
wrote:
 

 That's a great story Henry!
We once designed a galley around storing a specific pot on a Tartan 40.  What 
the owner wants, they get.  Within reason...although the reason boundary is 
always stretched...
Chris 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM, henry evans via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 When I first joined C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) 
were painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter.  A few 
years later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. 
The stars remained gold painted.  Later on we offered the cove and stars in a 
variety of colors to match boot stripes.  The stars remained painted long after 
the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. 
It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never 
standardized.  If you look at C's over the years some of the stars are short 
and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between.  I 
remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a 
"signature" of C and should be standardized.  That never happened while I was 
there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds 
as to how the stars looked. 
A side story about coves and stars :  Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, 
nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht 
Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The 
Lake where C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on 
Lake Ontario and had many C's over the years. While I was working there, he 
went to RCR Yachts for a new C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown 
sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out 
the details of what he wanted on the boat.  After all the specifics of winches, 
halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief 
case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars".  
I told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the 
nozzle and told him what Butch wanted.  Everyone at C knew Butch and the 
plant manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% 
complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding.  He looked at 
the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ?  
I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held 
it up to the stars.  The color match was perfect !  Butch just smiled and I 
handed him back his nozzle.  Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good 
friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 
1985.  We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. 
Cheers,
Hank 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

To remove tape, use a 3M Stripe Off Wheel.  Essentially a big round gum
eraser that you put in a drill.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:17 PM, John McKay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> How are you going to remove the mylar. The stripe on Enterprise is in bad
> shape, almost looks like it is many pieces about 2" long placed end to end.
>
> John on Enterprise
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and
> diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright
> red and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought
> them up nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot
> stripe and the diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove
> stripe, but am undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was
> original? I would like to restore to original?
>
> Any other relevant advice welcome
>
> Cheers,
> Doug
> Celtic Knot
> 85 33-2 cb
>
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[John McKay via CnC-List]

How are you going to remove the mylar. The stripe on Enterprise is in bad 
shape, almost looks like it is many pieces about 2" long placed end to end.
John on Enterprise 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[Chris Duer via CnC-List]

That's a great story Henry!
We once designed a galley around storing a specific pot on a Tartan 40.  What 
the owner wants, they get.  Within reason...although the reason boundary is 
always stretched...
Chris 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM, henry evans via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 When I first joined C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) 
were painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter.  A few 
years later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. 
The stars remained gold painted.  Later on we offered the cove and stars in a 
variety of colors to match boot stripes.  The stars remained painted long after 
the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. 
It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never 
standardized.  If you look at C's over the years some of the stars are short 
and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between.  I 
remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a 
"signature" of C and should be standardized.  That never happened while I was 
there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds 
as to how the stars looked. 
A side story about coves and stars :  Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, 
nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht 
Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The 
Lake where C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on 
Lake Ontario and had many C's over the years. While I was working there, he 
went to RCR Yachts for a new C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown 
sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out 
the details of what he wanted on the boat.  After all the specifics of winches, 
halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief 
case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars".  
I told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the 
nozzle and told him what Butch wanted.  Everyone at C knew Butch and the 
plant manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% 
complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding.  He looked at 
the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ?  
I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held 
it up to the stars.  The color match was perfect !  Butch just smiled and I 
handed him back his nozzle.  Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good 
friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 
1985.  We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. 
Cheers,
Hank 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[henry evans via CnC-List]

When I first joined C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) were 
painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter.  A few years 
later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. The 
stars remained gold painted.  Later on we offered the cove and stars in a 
variety of colors to match boot stripes.  The stars remained painted long after 
the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. 
It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never 
standardized.  If you look at C's over the years some of the stars are short 
and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between.  I 
remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a 
"signature" of C and should be standardized.  That never happened while I was 
there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds 
as to how the stars looked. 
A side story about coves and stars :  Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, 
nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht 
Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The 
Lake where C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on 
Lake Ontario and had many C's over the years. While I was working there, he 
went to RCR Yachts for a new C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown 
sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out 
the details of what he wanted on the boat.  After all the specifics of winches, 
halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief 
case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars".  
I told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the 
nozzle and told him what Butch wanted.  Everyone at C knew Butch and the 
plant manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% 
complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding.  He looked at 
the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ?  
I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held 
it up to the stars.  The color match was perfect !  Butch just smiled and I 
handed him back his nozzle.  Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good 
friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 
1985.  We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. 
Cheers,
Hank 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Rust

[Mike Brannon via CnC-List]

Mark,   Most turnbuckles are made of bronze with a chrome coating.   They 
should not show any sign of rust.   The studs and toggles ends may show some 
sign of rust but it should clean off very easily with any good metal polish.   
As for the 1X19 wire I recommend that you get the rigger who put it all 
together to take a look.   There shouldn't be any sign of rust on the wire 
after 1 year.   

As previously stated you can have some transfer from the dyes during the 
swaging  process but again it should come off easily.

Mike
Virginia Lee C 36 93295
Virginia Beach, VA

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 22:57, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C 25.  
> Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles.  Also, there is rust on the 
> lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up.  I called our local 
> rigger and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy that I'm still 
> waiting.  From what I understand the dyes in the steel can cause this which 
> is no big deal, or it could be a bad batch of steel.   Has anyone ever come 
> across this?  I wonder how to tell the difference.  Any thoughts or opinions 
> are appreciated.  I had the rigging replaced at a yard near where we bought 
> the boat which is 150 miles away so we could sail it home which makes things 
> more complicated.
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Mark McMenamy
> Ft Pierce FL
> C 25 "Icicle"
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Re: Stus-List Ontario Sailor Magazine

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

We get a large number of each issue delivered to our club (Frenchman's Bay 
Yacht Club). I couldn't tell you if we pay for them or not. It is widely read 
and well regarded (at least within our club).  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 3:07 PM, Allan Rheaume via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I read a few issues of this magazine, pretty well shows most of what you 
mentioned: cruising, racing, some maintenance articles and a 
classified/advertising section. Decent sailing magazine if your local to this 
area.
Allan RheaumeDrumroll 30-2



  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:25 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Ontario Sailor Magazine
  
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C owners,I was recently approached by a Canadian publication called Ontario 
Sailor regarding a request to advertise in their magazine.  Not being from the 
area, I’m unfamiliar with the publication and hoped that anyone on the list 
that subscribes or buys the magazine might give me some feedback regarding how 
it is viewed and what type of articles they tend to publish. Does the 
publication focus on cruising? Racing?  Dinghy events? DIY repairs?  Any 
feedback would be appreciated.  I’m not affiliated with the magazine in any way 
and if you prefer to contact me off list to keep your comments private, feel 
free to do so.csgilchr...@comcast.net  Thank you,Chuck GilchrestS/V Half 
Magic1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA
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Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover

[doug.welch--- via CnC-List]

I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and 
diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red 
and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up 
nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the 
diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am 
undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would 
like to restore to original?
Any other relevant advice welcome
Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb

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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

This reminds me of when I had some bottom fairing done at a local yard.
The guy told me, in all seriousness, that when he finished, the boat would
be 1 to 2 knots faster.  I don't use that yard anymore.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Maybe if you drop one off the Travel Lift. :-)
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 11/15/2016 12:12 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Any of them do 12 knots?
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Steven Tattrie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The redwings make good club racers, I race against 2 on a regular basis
>> and have crewed on one a couple years for Wednesday races. lots of fun to
>> sail on. I would say they sail to their PHRF rating (maybe better at times)
>> and as Mike H says are a bitch to beat!  If you could see our club champion
>> trophy you would understand.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Maybe if you drop one off the Travel Lift. :-)

Bill Bina


On 11/15/2016 12:12 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Any of them do 12 knots?

Dennis C.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Steven Tattrie via CnC-List 
> wrote:


The redwings make good club racers, I race against 2 on a regular
basis and have crewed on one a couple years for Wednesday races.
lots of fun to sail on. I would say they sail to their PHRF rating
(maybe better at times) and as Mike H says are a bitch to beat! 
If you could see our club champion trophy you would understand.


In addition to their classic design, I like the large cockpit and
most of all like the long tiller handle that allows you to duck
under the dodger in foul weather.

cheers

steve
C 30 mk1




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Re: Stus-List spinnaker pole repair and refurb

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'd do that.  Buy a tube and move everything.

With the dent so close to the end, you could cut it off and sell the
remainder on eBay.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:51 AM, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> We bent/dented a spin pole on a C 33 MKII forgot to release the baby
> stay on a jibegot a new length of aluminum tube and used all the
> existing hardwarethe Binnacle did all the work for a few hundred
> $$$.FYI
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2016-11-14 6:58 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I’d be very wary of any dent fix solution that doesn’t involve a sleeve.
> Even better, simply buy a length of aluminum tube of the same dimensions,
> cut it to length and add all the existing hardware. I don’t have any
> numbers but I have to believe it will be cheaper than having someone try to
> pull the dent out.
>
> Remember, when that spinnaker is up it will be putting a large amount of
> strain on that pole. Having it fold up at the wrong moment will be un-fun.
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:30 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Dave.call your local Dr. Dent repair...find him in the automotive
> services section of your yellow pages..
> Those guys do this on metal all the time.
> Ron C.
>
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
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> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
> Sent: 2016-11-14 5:26:16 PM
> Subject: Stus-List spinnaker pole repair and refurb
>
> Evening all,
>
> This winter's theme is running rigging, and this includes dealing with the
> spinnaker pole, which is dented, slightly bent, and needs a new shock cord
> bridle.   Per recommendations here, I picked up the shock cord tools last
> weekend in Nova Scotia - that part is easy.  Any suggestions on how to
>  with the dent/bend?
>
> See photos here.
>
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/11/spinnaker-pole-repair.html
>
> Thanks, Dave '85 33-2 Windstar
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Any of them do 12 knots?

Dennis C.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Steven Tattrie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The redwings make good club racers, I race against 2 on a regular basis
> and have crewed on one a couple years for Wednesday races. lots of fun to
> sail on. I would say they sail to their PHRF rating (maybe better at times)
> and as Mike H says are a bitch to beat!  If you could see our club champion
> trophy you would understand.
>
> In addition to their classic design, I like the large cockpit and most of
> all like the long tiller handle that allows you to duck under the dodger in
> foul weather.
>
> cheers
>
> steve
> C 30 mk1
>
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Re: Stus-List Awesome C race boat on eBay

[Steven Tattrie via CnC-List]

The redwings make good club racers, I race against 2 on a regular basis and
have crewed on one a couple years for Wednesday races. lots of fun to sail
on. I would say they sail to their PHRF rating (maybe better at times) and
as Mike H says are a bitch to beat!  If you could see our club champion
trophy you would understand.

In addition to their classic design, I like the large cockpit and most of
all like the long tiller handle that allows you to duck under the dodger in
foul weather.

cheers

steve
C 30 mk1
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Stus-List spinnaker pole repair and refurb

[robert via CnC-List]

We bent/dented a spin pole on a C 33 MKII forgot to release the 
baby stay on a jibegot a new length of aluminum tube and used all 
the existing hardwarethe Binnacle did all the work for a few hundred 
$$$.FYI


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-11-14 6:58 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List wrote:

Dave,

I’d be very wary of any dent fix solution that doesn’t involve a 
sleeve. Even better, simply buy a length of aluminum tube of the same 
dimensions, cut it to length and add all the existing hardware. I 
don’t have any numbers but I have to believe it will be cheaper than 
having someone try to pull the dent out.


Remember, when that spinnaker is up it will be putting a large amount 
of strain on that pole. Having it fold up at the wrong moment will be 
un-fun.


Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:30 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Dave.call your local Dr. Dent repair...find him in the automotive 
services section of your yellow pages..

Those guys do this on metal all the time.
Ron C.


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Sent: 2016-11-14 5:26:16 PM
Subject: Stus-List spinnaker pole repair and refurb

Evening all,

This winter's theme is running rigging, and this includes dealing 
with the spinnaker pole, which is dented, slightly bent, and needs a 
new shock cord bridle.   Per recommendations here, I picked up the 
shock cord tools last weekend in Nova Scotia - that part is easy.  
Any suggestions on how to  with the dent/bend?


See photos here.

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/11/spinnaker-pole-repair.html

Thanks, Dave '85 33-2 Windstar



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Re: Stus-List 1973 custom C 43' - hull/deck joint (toe rail replacement?)

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Hi Violeta,

I might be stating the obvious, but since you are planning to use butyl tape in 
the project, you may want to look for the good product (apparently not all 
butyl tapes were created equal).

One of the best sources of the butyl tape (if not the best) is Maine Sail 
(Compass Marine) (http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape) – I have no 
association; only a happy customer.

goof luck with your project

Marek Dziedzic
1994 C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON

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Re: Stus-List Thinking of a Wheel to Tiller Conversion

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Rod

Another option is to move your winches further aft to the spinnaker winch 
location.  If you do not sail with a crew this is a good option and is how 
Persistence was set up when we bought it.  Unfortunately for a crewed situation 
or for racing you have your spinnaker trimmers facing a bit aft and twisted 
while trimming genoa.  For those reasons we reconfigured our boat back to its 
original configuration with primaries forward, spinnaker (or secondaries) aft 
and a set of winches on coachroof for halyards and other control lines.  That 
said for your purposes it may be an option and is not difficult nor expensive 
to do.

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of roderick 
anderson via CnC-List
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: roderick anderson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thinking of a Wheel to Tiller Conversion


Mike, that's a great idea and that would work well for me. Oddly enough my 32 
was never rigged for a spinnaker but I can certainly take care of that. Thanks!
Rod
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