Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[Dave via CnC-List]

Agreed on this, if I had it to do again I would not buy the ev 100.  

Dave

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> On Dec 20, 2016, at 9:32 AM, David Knecht  wrote:
> 
> I agree on autopilot as an absolute necessity (I sail and race single handed 
> frequently).  I put an EV-100 wheel pilot on my “new” boat. My previous boat 
> (C 34) came with an underdeck hydraulic (ST4000?). If I had it to do again, 
> I would spend the extra money for the hydraulic.  Having to engage and 
> disengage the wheel pilot each time you want to use it may seem like a minor 
> inconvenience, but when you need it in a hurry (crash tack) it is a major 
> PITA, especially since the lever is not in a convenient position relative to 
> the spokes of the wheel.  This is especially true when trying to disengage.  
> The wheel pilot is turning the wheel while you are trying to reach through 
> the spokes to disengage it and those sometimes come into conflict.  With the 
> hydraulic, you just push the button to engage/disengage.  Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 8:49 AM, David via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Autopilot is my best friend.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Andrew Means via CnC-List  
>> Date: 12/19/16 6:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Andrew Means  
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy? 
>> 
>> I feel like I see a reasonable amount of solar panels on the cruising boats 
>> at Shilshole but certainly less than you would in lower latitudes. The 
>> Safari mainly does day sailing with some moderate-length cruising in the San 
>> Juans, Gulf Islands and off the Vancouver coast. Long 10 hour days of 
>> motoring in non-existent Puget Sound wind makes me yearn for an autopilot...
>> 
>> -- 
>> Andrew Means
>> S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On December 19, 2016 at 2:28:01 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>> (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd be buying solar panels and associated controller/regulators.  But 
>>> perhaps in Seattle solar panels are more wishful thinking than practical..
>>> Chuck Gilchrest 
>>> S/V Half Magic
>>> 1983 Landfall 35
>>> Padanaram, MA
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 Hey all - 
 
 I have recently found myself with $750 worth of gift cards to spend at 
 Fisheries Supply. I’m debating about what to buy and thought you guys 
 might be able to help me.
 
 Big-ticket items I’d like for my 1977 C 34:
 
 Some kind of autopilot system - It looks like from the website Fisheries 
 autopilot systems are not really aimed at sailboats, but I wonder if 
 they’d be able to order something. Defender’s got the Raymarine Evolution 
 EV-100 Wheel Autopilot Pack at $1249, which is obviously a chunk more than 
 I’ve got but it could be an option. I am thinking however that I’d 
 probably prefer to buy a simpler autopilot (something that basically just 
 holds a course) second hand from somebody who is looking to upgrade and 
 save a lot of money that way. Anybody have experience with the Raymarine 
 unit or used units I should be on the lookout for?
 
 Self-Tailing Winches for the cabin top - right now we’ve got two 
 mismatched non-self-tailing winches on our cabin top and it’d be pretty 
 nice to have the matched and self tailing winches there. Two of these 
 would run past my budget but it would be worth it. They’re single speed 
 though, so operations like reefing might be challenging. I could just get 
 one dual-speed self-tailing winch this season and look to upgrade the 
 second next season... Again, I’m not opposed to looking out for used 
 self-tailing winches at the next swap meet.
 
 Other things the boat could use:
 
 + New Spinnaker Halyard (definitely needed for next season)
 + New topping lift, foreguy lines (currently old but not bad)
 + More automatic PFDs (we’ve got plenty of life vests but if we have auto 
 PFDs we’ll have better luck getting people to wear them)
 
 What do you guys think? If you had $750 to spend on boat gear what would 
 you spend it on?
 
 Andrew
 
 
 -- 
 Andrew Means
 S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
 Seattle, WA
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Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

If you buy the harness style, decent tethers aren’t a cheap date, either.

From: Andrew Means via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

Good point - we’ve got a couple automatic PFDs but it’d be smart to have enough 
so that everyone can wear one all the time.

-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA


On December 20, 2016 at 7:00:33 AM, William Walker via CnC-List 
(cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:


  I love my auto pilot, but in reading your post I think you should buy pfd 
that you will actually wearauto pilot will leave you in the dust if you 
fall off, and temptation to leave cockpit is high when Otto is driving...
  Bill Walker
  Cnc 36


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Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Good point - we’ve got a couple automatic PFDs but it’d be smart to have
enough so that everyone can wear one all the time.

-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA

On December 20, 2016 at 7:00:33 AM, William Walker via CnC-List (
cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:


I love my auto pilot, but in reading your post I think you should buy pfd
that you will actually wearauto pilot will leave you in the dust if you
fall off, and temptation to leave cockpit is high when Otto is driving...

Bill Walker
Cnc 36



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Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I love my auto pilot, but in reading your post I think you should buy pfd that you will actually wearauto pilot will leave you in the dust if you fall off, and temptation to leave cockpit is high when Otto is driving...Bill WalkerCnc 36___

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Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I agree on autopilot as an absolute necessity (I sail and race single handed 
frequently).  I put an EV-100 wheel pilot on my “new” boat. My previous boat 
(C 34) came with an underdeck hydraulic (ST4000?). If I had it to do again, I 
would spend the extra money for the hydraulic.  Having to engage and disengage 
the wheel pilot each time you want to use it may seem like a minor 
inconvenience, but when you need it in a hurry (crash tack) it is a major PITA, 
especially since the lever is not in a convenient position relative to the 
spokes of the wheel.  This is especially true when trying to disengage.  The 
wheel pilot is turning the wheel while you are trying to reach through the 
spokes to disengage it and those sometimes come into conflict.  With the 
hydraulic, you just push the button to engage/disengage.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT


> On Dec 20, 2016, at 8:49 AM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Autopilot is my best friend.   
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Andrew Means via CnC-List  
> Date: 12/19/16 6:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Andrew Means  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy? 
> 
> I feel like I see a reasonable amount of solar panels on the cruising boats 
> at Shilshole but certainly less than you would in lower latitudes. The Safari 
> mainly does day sailing with some moderate-length cruising in the San Juans, 
> Gulf Islands and off the Vancouver coast. Long 10 hour days of motoring in 
> non-existent Puget Sound wind makes me yearn for an autopilot...
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
> Seattle, WA
> 
> On December 19, 2016 at 2:28:01 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
> (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:
> 
>> I'd be buying solar panels and associated controller/regulators.  But 
>> perhaps in Seattle solar panels are more wishful thinking than practical..
>> Chuck Gilchrest 
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 Landfall 35
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all - 
>>> 
>>> I have recently found myself with $750 worth of gift cards to spend at 
>>> Fisheries Supply. I’m debating about what to buy and thought you guys might 
>>> be able to help me.
>>> 
>>> Big-ticket items I’d like for my 1977 C 34:
>>> 
>>> Some kind of autopilot system - It looks like from the website Fisheries 
>>> autopilot systems are not really aimed at sailboats, but I wonder if they’d 
>>> be able to order something. Defender’s got the Raymarine Evolution EV-100 
>>> Wheel Autopilot Pack at $1249, which is obviously a chunk more than I’ve 
>>> got but it could be an option. I am thinking however that I’d probably 
>>> prefer to buy a simpler autopilot (something that basically just holds a 
>>> course) second hand from somebody who is looking to upgrade and save a lot 
>>> of money that way. Anybody have experience with the Raymarine unit or used 
>>> units I should be on the lookout for?
>>> 
>>> Self-Tailing Winches for the cabin top - right now we’ve got two mismatched 
>>> non-self-tailing winches on our cabin top and it’d be pretty nice to have 
>>> the matched and self tailing winches there. Two of these would run past my 
>>> budget but it would be worth it. They’re single speed though, so operations 
>>> like reefing might be challenging. I could just get one dual-speed 
>>> self-tailing winch this season and look to upgrade the second next 
>>> season... Again, I’m not opposed to looking out for used self-tailing 
>>> winches at the next swap meet.
>>> 
>>> Other things the boat could use:
>>> 
>>> + New Spinnaker Halyard (definitely needed for next season)
>>> + New topping lift, foreguy lines (currently old but not bad)
>>> + More automatic PFDs (we’ve got plenty of life vests but if we have auto 
>>> PFDs we’ll have better luck getting people to wear them)
>>> 
>>> What do you guys think? If you had $750 to spend on boat gear what would 
>>> you spend it on?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew Means
>>> S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
>>> Seattle, WA
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Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

[David via CnC-List]

Autopilot is my best friend.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Andrew Means via CnC-List 
Date: 12/19/16 6:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Re: Stus-List $750 at Fisheries Supply - what to buy?

I feel like I see a reasonable amount of solar panels on the cruising boats at 
Shilshole but certainly less than you would in lower latitudes. The Safari 
mainly does day sailing with some moderate-length cruising in the San Juans, 
Gulf Islands and off the Vancouver coast. Long 10 hour days of motoring in 
non-existent Puget Sound wind makes me yearn for an autopilot...

--
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA


On December 19, 2016 at 2:28:01 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
(cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:

I'd be buying solar panels and associated controller/regulators.  But perhaps 
in Seattle solar panels are more wishful thinking than practical..
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Hey all -

I have recently found myself with $750 worth of gift cards to spend at 
Fisheries Supply. I'm debating about what to buy and thought you guys might be 
able to help me.

Big-ticket items I'd like for my 1977 C 34:

Some kind of autopilot system - It looks like from the website Fisheries 
autopilot systems are not really aimed at sailboats, but I wonder if they'd be 
able to order something. Defender's got the Raymarine Evolution EV-100 Wheel 
Autopilot 
Pack
 at $1249, which is obviously a chunk more than I've got but it could be an 
option. I am thinking however that I'd probably prefer to buy a simpler 
autopilot (something that basically just holds a course) second hand from 
somebody who is looking to upgrade and save a lot of money that way. Anybody 
have experience with the Raymarine unit or used units I should be on the 
lookout for?

Self-Tailing Winches for the cabin top - right now we've got two mismatched 
non-self-tailing winches on our cabin top and it'd be pretty nice to have the 
matched and self tailing winches there. Two of 
these
 would run past my budget but it would be worth it. They're single speed 
though, so operations like reefing might be challenging. I could just get one 
dual-speed self-tailing winch this season and look to upgrade the second next 
season... Again, I'm not opposed to looking out for used self-tailing winches 
at the next swap meet.

Other things the boat could use:

+ New Spinnaker Halyard (definitely needed for next season)
+ New topping lift, foreguy lines (currently old but not bad)
+ More automatic PFDs (we've got plenty of life vests but if we have auto PFDs 
we'll have better luck getting people to wear them)

What do you guys think? If you had $750 to spend on boat gear what would you 
spend it on?

Andrew


--
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA
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Stus-List anyone need an A4?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Seen on Moyer:
http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9950

No connection to this person, but if you need to swap out a dead A4 this looks 
like a good deal.

Joe
Coquina
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