Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Dave,

The controls are not really redundant.  The cunningham does a much better
job of flattening the main.  The cunningham tightens the luff in the bottom
third of the sail very effectively.

The babystay can shape the main a little, but it mainly used to prevent the
mast from pumping.  The thick mast section on most C is really difficult
to bend.  Preventing the mast from pumping (or inverting) is much more
important.  That said, we only use ours in heavy air or when the waves are
large.  The #3 tacks around it pretty easy, the #1... not so much.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
Hampton VA





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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 21:43
To: C Stus List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

Both depower the main  Does the adjustable baby stay (mast bend) make
the Cunningham (luff tension) redundant?
I have an adjustable baby stay, is adding a Cunningham a waste of time?

Thanks , Dave
33-2

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

We replaced Perceptions with garhauer's

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:46:00 AM
To: C Stus List
Cc: Dave S
Subject: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert to 
3 on 3 from 2 on 3.

Photo:
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html

Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

They both help to flatten the main in heavy wind but they do it
differently.  Kinda like saying, "Since I have a belt I don't need
suspenders."

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, May 17, 2017, 9:43 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Both depower the main  Does the adjustable baby stay (mast bend) make
> the Cunningham (luff tension) redundant?
> I have an adjustable baby stay, is adding a Cunningham a waste of time?
>
> Thanks , Dave
> 33-2
>
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Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Both depower the main  Does the adjustable baby stay (mast bend) make the 
Cunningham (luff tension) redundant?
I have an adjustable baby stay, is adding a Cunningham a waste of time?

Thanks , Dave
33-2

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Re: Stus-List antifreeze weterbeke diesel 44B four

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

The cavitation problem is not uncommon, and not limited to diesels, but in my 
experience it is pretty specific to particular engine designs.

 

On Hyster and Yale fork lifts in the late 80’s and early 90’s we had very high 
warranty costs for erosion in the cylinder heads on the 4-cylinder GM gas 
engines, 4-cylinder Mitsubishi gas engines, and 40-50 HP Yanmar diesels used in 
our smaller capacity models. The clue to finding the fix was that the pinhole 
leaks that developed in the Mitsubishi engine were always next to the exhaust 
valve for the #2 cylinder (we didn’t use that many of the GM or Yanmar 
engines), appeared between 2000 and 3000 hours of operation, and the problem 
seemed to be exacerbated by the use of high phosphate coolant. Mitsubishi (and 
Yanmar) modified the head casting to put a bit more metal in the problem area 
which changed the harmonic that caused the cavitation. And we sent out a 
bulletin to dealers and customers telling them to not use certain brands of 
coolant. I remember that the folks who make Peak pitched a big bitch and 
threatened to sue over the service bulletin.

 

To this day I don’t use Peak in my car, jeep, or boats.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:21 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List antifreeze weterbeke diesel 44B four

 

Amsoil has convincing marketing regarding their antifreeze.  Its 
propyleneglycol to start with so...  safer for pets, children, and the 
environment.  If any even made it to your bilge you might sleep easier.  Amsoil 
also introduced me to a phenomenon in water jacket diesel engines where by the 
diesel combustion actually causes ultrasonic cavitation in the coolant.  This 
internal engine cavitation causes metal pitting which eventually erodes through 
the engine internals.  Is you engine susceptible?  Who knows.  Is this really a 
common problem?  Again, who knows.  It does give me a little peace of mind to 
know that they have identified the problem and have addressed it with the 
formulation of their product...for whatever that is worth.  

 

 

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Re: Stus-List antifreeze weterbeke diesel 44B four

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Amsoil has convincing marketing regarding their antifreeze.  Its
propyleneglycol to start with so...  safer for pets, children, and the
environment.  If any even made it to your bilge you might sleep easier.
Amsoil also introduced me to a phenomenon in water jacket diesel engines
where by the diesel combustion actually causes ultrasonic cavitation in the
coolant.  This internal engine cavitation causes metal pitting which
eventually erodes through the engine internals.  Is you engine
susceptible?  Who knows.  Is this really a common problem?  Again, who
knows.  It does give me a little peace of mind to know that they have
identified the problem and have addressed it with the formulation of their
product...for whatever that is worth.

https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/other-products/antifreeze/low-toxicity-antifreeze-and-engine-coolant/?code=ANT1G-EA

In full disclosure I paid the $30 "dealer" (read: discount club) fee.  I
can get you any of their products at about 30% off and shipped to your
address.  The 30% usually covers the added cost of the shipping.  $27 vs $40


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On May 16, 2017 1:33 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> is there any special antifreeze I should be using in my weterbeke diesel
> 44B four?
>
> --
> Danny
> T40
> Rum Runner IV
> Mattapoisett, MA
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Interesting   if sheaves  of the same dimension can be found, maybe a 
3-gang top can made...

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> On May 17, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Chuck S  wrote:
> 
> I have similar organizers on my boat and the builder's log states they were 
> made in the C metal shop. Note the bases are stainless and the cover is 
> aluminum. The sheeves have a bronze sleeve. Mine were frozen when I bought 
> the boat, but a simple take apart, clean and lube with oil freed them up and 
> they stayed that way for 15 years now. Let me know if you find a source as 
> I'd like to do the same.
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer
> Resolute, 1990 C 34R
> 
>> On May 17, 2017 at 6:46 AM Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
>> available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert 
>> to 3 on 3 from 2 on 3.   
>> 
>> Photo:
>> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html
>> 
>> Thanks, 
> 
>  
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

According to Schaefer - not them. They guessed garhauer, though I didn't think 
garhauer was a C vendor.   (?)

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> On May 17, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Tim Sippel  wrote:
> 
> Or not …
>  
>  
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=index=91_200
>  
>  
>  
> Mine say Schaffer on them , I’m sure by now they are carbon fiber and $tuff 
> like that .
>  
> Tim Sippel
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: May 17, 2017 6:46 AM
> To: C Stus List 
> Cc: Dave S 
> Subject: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?
>  
> Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
> available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert 
> to 3 on 3 from 2 on 3.   
>  
> Photo:
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html
>  
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Backstay length and tension

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Dave,

when you go buying these toggles, make sure that you select the right size. 
They come in different length. It might be prudent to buy them in pairs. Guess 
how I know.

Marek

From: David Knecht via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 22:09
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay length and tension

Mike and Pete get the points for this one if we are keeping score.  I had to 
replace one turnbuckle (fell in the river while trying to attach with the 
threads at max) and I missed the fact that there was supposed to be a toggle on 
the end.  That extra 3” might be the difference.  I am not sure it will give me 
enough to make attachment easy, but it will certainly help.  I will report back 
when I have installed the toggles.  Dave


Aries
1990 C 34+
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Stus-List Deck organizer alternative?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Probing around the Web looking to answer Dave's question popped up an
interesting alternative to retrofiting deck organizers.  If you can't match
the fastener spacing, you have to fill the holes, drill new ones and buy
new organizers (or have Guido make you some).

Nautos makes their organizers differently.  From reading their description,
apparently you fasten a base plate to the deck then attach the sheave/cover
assembly to the base plate.  Couldn't figure exactly how the base plate
fastens to the deck.  Couldn't find an exploded view.

Anybody seen these in person?  How do they work?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'm guessing they're FICO's or Nicro-Fico's.  For comparison, there is a
double  on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fico-Double-Deck-Organizer-40mm-Sheaves-Catalina-22-Sailboat-RG1231-/162460359489?hash=item25d3645b41:g:ffYAAOSwU8hY5WSz=mtr



Dennis C.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:46 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts
> are available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible,
> convert to 3 on 3 from 2 on 3.
>
> Photo:
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Tim Sippel via CnC-List]

Or not …


https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=index=91_200



Mine say Schaffer on them , I’m sure by now they are carbon fiber and $tuff 
like that .

Tim Sippel


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CnC-List
Sent: May 17, 2017 6:46 AM
To: C Stus List >
Cc: Dave S >
Subject: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert to 
3 on 3 from 2 on 3.

Photo:
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html

Thanks,





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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Tim Sippel via CnC-List]

Mine say Schaffer on them , I’m sure by now they are carbon fiber and $tuff 
like that .

Tim Sippel


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Subject: Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert to 
3 on 3 from 2 on 3.

Photo:
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html

Thanks,





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Re: Stus-List C 34 Windlass

[Paul E via CnC-List]

Don,

I recently installed a windlass on a LF38.Here are some links below.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/GroundTackle 


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/Windlass 





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Paul E.
1981 C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On May 16, 2017, at 7:54 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 13:52:41 -0600 (MDT)
> From: DON JONSSON >
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Stus-List C 34 Windlass
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hello All 
> 
> Has anyone installed a windlass on a C 34? Or something reasonably close. 
> 
> I no longer have the desire to pull up the anchor by hand and I would 
> appreciate help from anyone who has done this. Pictures would be really 
> great. 
> 
> Also, is there any way to search the archives without going month by month? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Don Jonsson 
> Swansong, C 34 
> Victoria 

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Stus-List 33-2 Deck organizer - Who manufactured? Parts?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Hi all - Any idea who manufactured the 33-2 deck organizer, and if parts are 
available?  I am looking to add another sheave to this if possible, convert to 
3 on 3 from 2 on 3.   

Photo:
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/c-33-2-deck-organizer.html

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Stus-List simple project - acrylic vacuum flask rack in 33-ii

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Vacuum flask/Thermos rack - a small thing but one that is used constantly.
Was at the boat and thought I'd post some pics of this.

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/p/blog-page_17.html

Dave
Windstar, 33-2
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