Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.

2017-06-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
After Hurricane Katrina there were LOTS of salvage boats available for peanuts. 
 My boat worker colleague and bought exactly zero of them. Would have ended up 
working for $2/hr to fix and sell. 

Dennis C.

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> On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, jackbrennan via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> A guy behind me at the marina was thrilled four years ago when he bought a 
> C 27 with a working A4 for 1K.
> 
> He had big plans. Marinize a small Yanmar diesel he already owned, do a few 
> other projects and have a beautiful, updated sailboat for under 5K.
> 
> Four years later, the boat has not moved from its dock, unless you count the 
> time it sank after a heavy Florida rainstorm. Same A4, lots of deterioration. 
> The boat is worth $0, maybe less than that.
> 
> He tried some projects, found the going rough and apparently gave up.
> 
> My rough calculation is that he has spent 14k in dock fees, another couple of 
> grand for mandatory insurance and who knows what to have the boat raised.
> 
> He could have waited a couple of years and bought a nice, updated sailboat 
> for way less than that. Neglected sailboats are not a good deal. They are 
> difficult and expensive to bring back to life.
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Former C 25
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
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>  Original message 
> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> Date:06/09/2017 10:19 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: "Dennis C." 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat. 
> 
> Kinda like a time share condo. Go to eBay and look at how many are going for 
> $1. 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
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>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 7:19 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I expect to see a lot more of that L
>> Right now, and probably trending towards worse and worse, buying a sailboat 
>> big enough to need a slip that is older is definitely a “falling knife” 
>> investment if there ever was one.  If the boat ends up needing sails, an 
>> engine, and interior while you own her, that is likely as much as the 
>> original purchase and then some for a ROI of almost nothing.
>> My wife and I love perusing Yachtworld and we have come to notice for many 
>> older boats, the list seems static for YEARS. There is one C 40 Crusader 
>> on there that literally has been for sale longer than we have been married, 
>> and we got married in 1999!
>>  
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>> C 35 MK I
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:33 PM
>> To: C Stus List 
>> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.
>>  
>> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-boat-parts-trailer-accessories/hamilton/c-c-corvette-sail-boat-31ft-parts-and-sails/1255274199?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
>>  
>> Had mulled over Corvette project - essentially free - before buying 
>> Windstar.  
>>  
>> Dave   33-2 Windstar 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.

2017-06-09 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List 
A guy behind me at the marina was thrilled four years ago when he bought a C 
27 with a working A4 for 1K.

He had big plans. Marinize a small Yanmar diesel he already owned, do a few 
other projects and have a beautiful, updated sailboat for under 5K.

Four years later, the boat has not moved from its dock, unless you count the 
time it sank after a heavy Florida rainstorm. Same A4, lots of deterioration. 
The boat is worth $0, maybe less than that.

He tried some projects, found the going rough and apparently gave up.

My rough calculation is that he has spent 14k in dock fees, another couple of 
grand for mandatory insurance and who knows what to have the boat raised.

He could have waited a couple of years and bought a nice, updated sailboat for 
way less than that. Neglected sailboats are not a good deal. They are difficult 
and expensive to bring back to life.

Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Tierra Verde, Fl.








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 Original message 
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  
Date:06/09/2017  10:19 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Dennis C."  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat. 

Kinda like a time share condo. Go to eBay and look at how many are going for 
$1. 

Dennis C.

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On Jun 9, 2017, at 7:19 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

I expect to see a lot more of that L
Right now, and probably trending towards worse and worse, buying a sailboat big 
enough to need a slip that is older is definitely a “falling knife” investment 
if there ever was one.  If the boat ends up needing sails, an engine, and 
interior while you own her, that is likely as much as the original purchase and 
then some for a ROI of almost nothing.
My wife and I love perusing Yachtworld and we have come to notice for many 
older boats, the list seems static for YEARS. There is one C 40 Crusader on 
there that literally has been for sale longer than we have been married, and we 
got married in 1999!
 
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:33 PM
To: C Stus List 
Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.
 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-boat-parts-trailer-accessories/hamilton/c-c-corvette-sail-boat-31ft-parts-and-sails/1255274199?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
 
Had mulled over Corvette project - essentially free - before buying Windstar.  
 
Dave   33-2 Windstar 

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Re: Stus-List Separation between engine

2017-06-09 Thread doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
I have decided to go with this 
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.20-inch-x-4ft-white-tight-mesh-shelf.1000679915.html
 I still need to do final fit and attach but I think it's going to work well. 

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  On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 at 6:48 AM, Kevin Paxton via 
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Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat

2017-06-09 Thread Steven Tattrie via CnC-List 
I really wanted a corvette a couple years ago when I was looking for a
larger boat. It would have been a great step up from my redline 25 swing
keel. I really wanted the shallow keel the Corvette has.  It would have
cost to much to buy one and ship it in to fix up; there did not seem to be
any nearby, lots in Ontario and the US.  In stead joined solid keel club
and bought the C at our local club and now wait for tide changes.

Part of me still wants one and If my wife would let me (she loves our
30)..I would trade my 30 for a good corvette 31.

cheers

Steve
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Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.

2017-06-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Kinda like a time share condo. Go to eBay and look at how many are going for 
$1. 

Dennis C.

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> On Jun 9, 2017, at 7:19 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I expect to see a lot more of that L
> Right now, and probably trending towards worse and worse, buying a sailboat 
> big enough to need a slip that is older is definitely a “falling knife” 
> investment if there ever was one.  If the boat ends up needing sails, an 
> engine, and interior while you own her, that is likely as much as the 
> original purchase and then some for a ROI of almost nothing.
> My wife and I love perusing Yachtworld and we have come to notice for many 
> older boats, the list seems static for YEARS. There is one C 40 Crusader on 
> there that literally has been for sale longer than we have been married, and 
> we got married in 1999!
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
> C 35 MK I
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:33 PM
> To: C Stus List 
> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
> Subject: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.
>  
> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-boat-parts-trailer-accessories/hamilton/c-c-corvette-sail-boat-31ft-parts-and-sails/1255274199?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
>  
> Had mulled over Corvette project - essentially free - before buying Windstar. 
>  
>  
> Dave   33-2 Windstar 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.

2017-06-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
I expect to see a lot more of that ☹
Right now, and probably trending towards worse and worse, buying a sailboat big 
enough to need a slip that is older is definitely a “falling knife” investment 
if there ever was one.  If the boat ends up needing sails, an engine, and 
interior while you own her, that is likely as much as the original purchase and 
then some for a ROI of almost nothing.
My wife and I love perusing Yachtworld and we have come to notice for many 
older boats, the list seems static for YEARS. There is one C 40 Crusader on 
there that literally has been for sale longer than we have been married, and we 
got married in 1999!

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:33 PM
To: C Stus List 
Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Bye bye pretty boat.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-boat-parts-trailer-accessories/hamilton/c-c-corvette-sail-boat-31ft-parts-and-sails/1255274199?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Had mulled over Corvette project - essentially free - before buying Windstar.

Dave   33-2 Windstar

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Re: Stus-List Separation between engine

2017-06-09 Thread Kevin Paxton via CnC-List 
When I initially put a solid piece of plywood to cover the gap one day the
temperature warning lamp lit up on the control panel. That's when I decided
to drill a couple holes in the plywood. I've been nervous to actually have
the plywood in place at all since that day as well.

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:03 PM Adam Hayden via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A few of you have mention that you have netting to separate the engine and
> lazerette.  Does the engine need the airflow from the lazerette for
> cooling?   The engines are usually raw water or fresh water cooled as
> opposed to air cooled.   I was just curious?   I have a 36 and have had a
> few items fall onto the shaft and like others mentioned burned a bit of
> plastic.   Fortunately lines are on the outboard side away from the engine
> area.  It is one of those things I would like to do as well, but have more
> pressing projects.
>
> Adam hayden
> C 36
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> Get Outlook for Android 
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