Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[rjcasciato--- via CnC-List]

Andy.is your wife doing any of the varnishing?




Actually, I'm thinking about getting a quote from Bathfitter Pro to vacuum form 
new walls and vanity in my head..




Ron 




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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:39 PM -0400, "Andrew Burton via CnC-List" 
 wrote:










Are you just trying to start a fight, Ron? :)
Actually, I've threatened to paint the bulkheads on my boat eggshell white, but 
my wife won't hear of it. She says it feels nice and cozy...and my woodwork is 
in excellent shape, so I just varnish it.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, rjcasciato via CnC-List  
wrote:
Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" With all 
that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...Ron C.Impromptu 38 MK 
II 1977


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 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 Date: 7/5/17  10:30 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  Subject: 
Stus-List C&C 40 question 




http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y


 


Has anyone seen this boat?


Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!


YIKES!


 


Joe Della Barba


Coquina


C&C 35 MK I


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Stus-List Princesss auto led lights

[Adam Hayden via CnC-List]

I installed these exact lifhts during the refurbishment of my C&C 36.  They 
work perfectly.  I installed a double in the galley as I wanted better lighting 
for cooking and meal prep.   After 3 years of regular use I have not had any 
issue at all.I would certainly recommend them as well.I did install 
other lights in the rest of the boat as I found them super bright.

Adam Hayden
C&C 36
Pictou NS

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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

PHRF ratings are one way to judge potential speed. These came from Long Island 
Sound

Redline 41 is rated 120
C&C 40 standard rig and keel rates 99
C&C 37/40 rates 66

Each C&C design improved on speed and interior volume.
The new all carbon Redline 40 rates 18, but not much interior.


My boat is rated 93. We sail that fast and had early success racing among 
average boats off of Atlantic City. Now in the Chesapeake, I'm racing against 
hardcore, experienced crews and the boats are baltoplated and burnished and 
kept in a lift or drysailed from a trailer and the sails are brand spanking 
new. My boat is a mancave. I added air conditioning and a big flat screen TV, 
so I can drive down after work Friday night and turn it on and relax, have a 
cold brew and get a a good nights rest at the dock. We race Sat morning.


> On July 5, 2017 at 3:14 PM "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Now that I think about it, I think the Redline was a 41.
>  
> From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Matthew L. Wolford mailto:wolf...@erie.net
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>  
> Yes, I believe the first one was referred to as a Redline 40.
>  
> From: David via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>  
> 1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 
> 40 model.  
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
> 
> Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?
>  
> Charlie Nelson
>  
> cenel...@aol.com
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: rshibe via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: rshibe 
> Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
> 
> Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than 
> dark wood for a "Man Cave".
> Ray Shibe
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > ...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.
> >  
> > And all this time I blamed the crew...
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> > 
> > 
> >  Original message 
> > From: rjcasciato via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: rjcasciato  > mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net >
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
> > 
> > Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
> > 
> > With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
> > Ron C.
> > Impromptu
> > 38 MK II
> > 1977
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >  
> >  Original message 
> > From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  > mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov >
> > Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
> >  
> > Has anyone seen this boat?
> > Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the 
> > second is outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a 
> > holding tank then aluminum!
> > YIKES!
> >  
> > Joe Della Barba
> > Coquina
> > C&C 35 MK I
> > 
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Stus-List For Sale

[Joel Bruce via CnC-List]

1986 C&C 35 MKIII, located in Maine.  Email for questions, 42k, offers
considered.  joel.bruc...@gmail.com

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I had stuck rings and know what that looks like.  Cylinder 1 and 2 were 165
and 155 respectively.  3 was ~360.  I managed to get them unstuck and the
last time I checked they were all greater than 400.  They dipstick and HP
pump shims have always leaked at the same rate.

Josh

On Jul 5, 2017 2:17 PM, "Bill Dakin via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> The only time I've known this to happen on internal combustion engines was
> when the combustion gas pressures passed the compression rings and passed
> the oil control ring to cause crankcase pressures to force out oil spray.
> Oil spray within the crankcase is normal, it is when the negative pressure
> outside forces it out of filler.  Now might be a good time to run a
> compression test on the cylinders for the heck of it.
> bd
>
>
>  we noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the
>> engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further
>> exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, in
>> fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a task as
>> all the dealers said n
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2138

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2311

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2500

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2501

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5997


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Crusader 40  - sort of resembles a Bermuda 40, long keel with a centerboard.
C&C 40 - centerboard and deep keel versions.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford mailto:wolf...@erie.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Yes, I believe the first one was referred to as a Redline 40.

From: David via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 40 
model.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?

Charlie Nelson

cenel...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: rshibe mailto:rsh...@optonline.net>>
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

And all this time I blamed the crew...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu
38 MK II
1977



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 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Crusader 40  - sort of resembles a Bermuda 40, long keel with a centerboard.
C&C 40 - centerboard and deep keel versions.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Yes, I believe the first one was referred to as a Redline 40.

From: David via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 40 
model.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?

Charlie Nelson

cenel...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: rshibe mailto:rsh...@optonline.net>>
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

And all this time I blamed the crew...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu
38 MK II
1977



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Now that I think about it, I think the Redline was a 41.

From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 3:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Yes, I believe the first one was referred to as a Redline 40.

From: David via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 40 
model.   



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 


Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?

Charlie Nelson

cenel...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: rshibe 
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question


Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List  wrote:


  ...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

  And all this time I blamed the crew...



  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


   Original message 
  From: rjcasciato via CnC-List  
  Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: rjcasciato  
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 


  Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
  With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
  Ron C.
  Impromptu 
  38 MK II 
  1977



  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   Original message 
  From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  
  Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  
  Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question 

  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

  Has anyone seen this boat?
  Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
  YIKES!

  Joe Della Barba
  Coquina
  C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Yes, I believe the first one was referred to as a Redline 40.

From: David via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 40 
model.   



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 


Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?

Charlie Nelson

cenel...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: rshibe 
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question


Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List  wrote:


  ...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

  And all this time I blamed the crew...



  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


   Original message 
  From: rjcasciato via CnC-List  
  Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: rjcasciato  
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 


  Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
  With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
  Ron C.
  Impromptu 
  38 MK II 
  1977



  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   Original message 
  From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  
  Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  
  Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question 

  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

  Has anyone seen this boat?
  Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
  YIKES!

  Joe Della Barba
  Coquina
  C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Different boat.  The 37+ or 37XL or 37R or 37/40 are all the same hull and
as I understand it were designed as a successor to the 37.  Only about 150
hulls were made between 1989 and 1994.  The fire at the C&C factory seems
to have cut this lineage short.  Hearsay is that while still on the drawing
board the new C&C 37 was going to have fresh modern lines to compete with
the Beneteaus of the day.  A vertical bow and transom to be specific.  Upon
seeing this modern conception it was decreed that it looked horrible and
instead of a complete redesign $40 of fiberglass was added to the bow and
$40 to the stern.  Ultimately this resulted in a boat which measures nearly
40'.

The first three models (37+, 37R, and 37XL) were marketing ploys.  Any and
all hulls were available with nearly all of the options.  Eventually
confusing over the different trim lines and the length resulted in the
marketing changing the trim line to 37/40.

To the best of my knowledge neither the 37 or 40 were ever produced after
the release of the 37+ in 1989.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Hull #42
Solomons, MD


On Wed, Jul 5, 2017, 2:23 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?
>
> Charlie Nelson
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rshibe via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: rshibe 
> Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>
> Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than
> dark wood for a "Man Cave".
> Ray Shibe
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> ...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.
>
> And all this time I blamed the crew...
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rjcasciato 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>
> Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
> With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
> Ron C.
> Impromptu
> 38 MK II
> 1977
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
>
> Has anyone seen this boat?
> Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second
> is outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank
> then aluminum!
> YIKES!
>
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[David via CnC-List]

1977 through 1984 40.   It is actually a 40-2 as there was a much earlier 40 
model.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Date: 7/5/17 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?

Charlie Nelson

cenel...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: rshibe 
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

And all this time I blamed the crew...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu
38 MK II
1977



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Is this boat the C&C 37/40 or a different animal altogether?
 
Charlie Nelson
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
-Original Message-
From: rshibe via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: rshibe 
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question



Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List  wrote:



...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.


And all this time I blamed the crew...







Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List  
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: rjcasciato  
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 


Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu 
38 MK II 
1977







Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone




 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question 



http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
 
Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

[Bill Dakin via CnC-List]

The only time I've known this to happen on internal combustion engines was
when the combustion gas pressures passed the compression rings and passed
the oil control ring to cause crankcase pressures to force out oil spray.
Oil spray within the crankcase is normal, it is when the negative pressure
outside forces it out of filler.  Now might be a good time to run a
compression test on the cylinders for the heck of it.
bd


 we noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the
> engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further
> exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, in
> fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a task as
> all the dealers said n
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[rshibe via CnC-List]

Hey guys our boats also serve as "Man Caves" what better interior than dark 
wood for a "Man Cave".
Ray Shibe

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:40, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> ...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.
> 
> And all this time I blamed the crew...
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: rjcasciato via CnC-List  
> Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: rjcasciato  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question 
> 
> Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
> With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
> Ron C.
> Impromptu 
> 38 MK II 
> 1977
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
>  Original message 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question
> 
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone seen this boat?
> 
> Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
> outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
> aluminum!
> 
> YIKES!
> 
>  
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> Coquina
> 
> C&C 35 MK I
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

If I wanted to win boat races I would be sailing off a trailer in a boat that 
costs less than one C&C sail ;)

Joe
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 1:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

And all this time I blamed the crew...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question
Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu
38 MK II
1977



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 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[David via CnC-List]

...that's why we were not geting all those firsts.

And all this time I blamed the crew...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: rjcasciato via CnC-List 
Date: 7/5/17 1:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasciato 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
Ron C.
Impromptu
38 MK II
1977



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 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Are you just trying to start a fight, Ron? :)
Actually, I've threatened to paint the bulkheads on my boat eggshell white,
but my wife won't hear of it. She says it feels nice and cozy...and my
woodwork is in excellent shape, so I just varnish it.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, rjcasciato via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" 
> With all that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...
> Ron C.
> Impromptu
> 38 MK II
> 1977
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: 7/5/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%
> 26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen this boat?
>
> Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second
> is outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank
> then aluminum!
>
> YIKES!
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[rjcasciato via CnC-List]

Great lines, but way too much dark wood below. "less is more" With all 
that weight. it would be hard to sail to her rating...Ron C.Impromptu 38 MK 
II 1977


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 Date: 7/5/17  10:30 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  Subject: 
Stus-List C&C 40 question 


http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
 
Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I had the same leak.  I was able to get a new dipstick from the local
Yanmar dealer (Cook Engines).

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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> Hello All,
> For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I ran
> the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's Gate
> back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer sounded
> (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed down the
> East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind died, I got a
> tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to rebuild the
> engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of trouble shooting
> and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we noticed that the bulk of
> the oil was accumulating on the side of the engine with the dip stick. The
> dip stick slid in easily. Further exploration led to the conclusion that
> the source of the oil leak was, in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new
> replacement for an old 3GM was a task as all the dealers said none were
> available. An old salty engine repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show
> told me he could get one. He did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak!
> If you have an old Yanmar and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick
> for proper fit.
> Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I experience a similar condition.  Mine is compounded by the HP pump shims
weeping oil.  I'd be willing to try a new dipstick first if one was
available and not too costly.  Truly I probably only need the dipstick
gasket.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jul 5, 2017 11:56 AM, "Howard and Skippy via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
> For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I ran
> the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's Gate
> back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer sounded
> (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed down the
> East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind died, I got a
> tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to rebuild the
> engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of trouble shooting
> and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we noticed that the bulk of
> the oil was accumulating on the side of the engine with the dip stick. The
> dip stick slid in easily. Further exploration led to the conclusion that
> the source of the oil leak was, in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new
> replacement for an old 3GM was a task as all the dealers said none were
> available. An old salty engine repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show
> told me he could get one. He did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak!
> If you have an old Yanmar and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick
> for proper fit.
> Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3
>
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Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hey guys,

You guys might need to dig a little deeper, try 
wiki/monel and look to the section "other" and 
the alloy Monel 400, which will be the common tank material.


BTW, it is also the best alloy for kitchen 
sinks... a much harsher application than a water 
tank that gets "shocked" once or twice a year.


It is THE preferred alloy for marine 
applications, far superior than stainless steels 
but a little more expensive so you won't see much 
on production yachts. Lastly, a little reminder 
about our salt water boats sitting in a solution 
of NaCl (sodium & chloride) and the shaft and 
thingies down there last for years and years 
because of an ultra low corrosion rate if Monel is used.


My spring tank routine is a bleach shock (about 
1/2 cup for 15 gallons) to a 1/2 tank then fill 
to top. After a 1 beer soak, I pop the outlet 
hose and drain to bilge. A couple of good rinses 
follow and done for another year. During summer I 
might add a teaspoon of bleach during a fill if I 
remember. We use the tank for drinking and coffee 
water but put it through a Britta filter.

The above will freshen the bilge as a bonus.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 07:25 AM 05/07/2017, you wrote:

Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_000_05f58d4eb1604faebaf38c6080284c2fNSCDAG306baadssagov_"

Just did some Google-Fu and Monel might not be especially good with chlorine.

J

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Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

Ron,

This looks like a winner!  The tanks are in my 
Hylas.  The Office did not have Monel.


I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so 
it should be avoided, but that info could be wrong.


Joel

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Joel,

Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662. 
It is supposed to be non-corrosive.


I’m curious how you got Monel tanks.  It is 
corrosion resistant but does corrode.  I have a 
3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep 
pits on the surface where it was exposed to salt water.


Regards,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
ron.ri...@1968.usna.com




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All

Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?

Joel
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Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

[Howard and Skippy via CnC-List]

Hello All,
For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I 
ran the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's 
Gate back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer 
sounded (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed 
down the East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind 
died, I got a tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to 
rebuild the engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of 
trouble shooting and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we 
noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the 
engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further 
exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, 
in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a 
task as all the dealers said none were available. An old salty engine 
repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show told me he could get one. He 
did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak! If you have an old Yanmar 
and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick for proper fit.

Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3

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Stus-List 33-2 music and speakers

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

I recently tore out the (heavy) speakers and stereo from my 34-1. I now use
one of these waterproof bluetooth units.  I carabiner it to the backstay
when in the cockpit.

http://www.fugoo.com/fugoo-tough-xl/

I'm very happy with it, but I'm no audiophile.

Cheers,
  Jeremy
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

If any lister is interested, I keep my boat in Oriental for the summer and will 
be down there this weekend so I could have a look (FWIW!).
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
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From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
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Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:31 am
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 question



http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y
 
Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Stus-List C&C 40 question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-Yachts-C%26amp%3BC-40-3102940/Oriental/NC/United-States#.WVz3qmYUk6Y

Has anyone seen this boat?
Two things come to mind, one is the bow pulpit looks bent and the second is 
outside of cardboard, I cannot image a worse material for a holding tank then 
aluminum!
YIKES!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Just did some Google-Fu and Monel might not be especially good with chlorine.

J

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Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

Ron,

This looks like a winner!  The tanks are in my Hylas.  The Office did not have 
Monel.

I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so it should be avoided, but that 
info could be wrong.

Joel

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Joel,

Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662.  It 
is supposed to be non-corrosive.

I’m curious how you got Monel tanks.  It is corrosion resistant but does 
corrode.  I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the 
surface where it was exposed to salt water.

Regards,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
ron.ri...@1968.usna.com




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Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

All

Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?

Joel
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 music and speakers

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Dave — if you’re interested in the Fusion or Polyplanar speaker products, let 
me know as I can source them for you.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jul 3, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Merci sylvain, C'est possible, and I will check for an impedance mismatch, 
> but perhaps  I should have been clearer.The setup works ok, I just want 
> better sound.   The bass is weak and the amp (I did not want complexity of a 
> standalone amp) is  probably underpowered vs the efficiency of the speakers, 
> and the aging speakers themselves may be suspect.  
> I don't want to chop holes in the boat for a mall-thumping adolescent mating 
> call, I just want as close to 'audiophile' as I can get within the existing 
> footprint/compromises, and am wondering mostly about the speakers listers may 
> have discovered.
> 
> Dave.

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Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Ron,

This looks like a winner!  The tanks are in my Hylas.  The Office did not
have Monel.

I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so it should be avoided, but
that info could be wrong.

Joel

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel,
>
>
>
> Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: https://www.fisheriessupply.
> com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662.  It is supposed to be
> non-corrosive.
>
>
>
> I’m curious how you got Monel tanks.  It is corrosion resistant but does
> corrode.  I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the
> surface where it was exposed to salt water.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C&C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2017 2:18 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
> *Subject:* Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
>
>
>
> All
>
>
>
> Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?
>
>
>
> Joel
>
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Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

+1
 I always thought Monel was the most corrosion-proof type of metal to be had. I 
can tell you my fresh water system benefits hugely from putting the whole 
bottle of Clorox in once a year, flushing it through, and adding a little bit 
with every fill. I have fiberglass tanks.  We still don’t drink tank water 
unless dying of thirst though.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & 
Melody via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:31 PM
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Cc: Russ & Melody 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks


Hi Joel,

Why are you looking for a chlorine alternative?

It is probably your best choice to treat monel tanks. Monel is spec'd in many 
chlorine handling applications because of its excellent corrosion resistance.

It is an excellent oxidizer, will kill undesirable microbes and is unstable 
enough to be non-reactive in a relatively short time. Apply to the tank a week 
or more before you're going away. Golden.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 12:33 PM 04/07/2017, you wrote:

I'll check it out.Â

There has got to be a chlorine alternative. Â

JoelÂ

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am not sure if this is what you are asking for, but I am using this: 
https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353&products_id=2386
 . I always had problems with water going bad over time (we don’t use too 
much of it). This thing keeps it fresh longer (a month? 6 weeks?).
Â
Interestingly, I could not find it anywhere else on the web, so it might be 
Canadian specific.
Â
Marek
Â
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
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Â
Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 music and speakers

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I also have Atrium 4 and am happy with them.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 12:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 music and speakers

Dave
I did as you and replaced the old pioneer stereo with a Kenwood, and pulled 
the old wedge speakers out and replaced with Polk Audio Artium 4 outdoor 
speakers. They were on sale last year at Futureshop/Bestbuy for $100 a pair 
so there's a pair mounted on the bulkhead and a pair on the pushpit rail. I 
cut a slot in the brackets and hoseclamped them to the center rail. Sound 
pretty good for cheap speakers and they are weatherproof.

Brad
Pulse C&C 33-2
Lake Huron.

Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~
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Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Joel,

 

Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662.  It 
is supposed to be non-corrosive.  

 

I’m curious how you got Monel tanks.  It is corrosion resistant but does 
corrode.  I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the 
surface where it was exposed to salt water.  

 

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C&C 37+

Bristol, RI

  ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

  

 

 

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks

 

All

 

Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?

 

Joel 

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