Re: Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership)

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Grenadine's rig and deck hardware is all-original, old-school. No furler, lazy 
jacks, self-tailing winches, rope clutches. My crew has to grind and tail and 
cleat to horn cleats, and flake sails manually. For two years they didn't know 
any better because they're newbies :) But one of them jumped on a shorthanded 
competitor's boat the other week and came back jealous of his furler and 
self-tailing winches. In defense I had to explain how much it would cost to 
upgrade :) I'd rather spend the money on new sails. While I can appreciate the 
merits of all those conveniences especially for leisure sailing, for racing I 
like being able to make a last-minute headsail choice right before leaving the 
dock, or even changing the headsail on the fly. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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From: "Chuck Borge via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Chuck Borge"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:54:13 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership) 

Years of racing J24s, J30s & Etchells, never thought I'd have a furler. Now a 
little older, wiser and sporting a Stackpack too. 

Not the fastest setup, but still finding a way to win club races. 
And my wife and I can be off the mooring and sailing in minutes. Put-away is 
just as quick. I am sure we use our boat many times more than those around us 
just because it is so easy. No sail- folding arguments either! 

Enjoy! 

Chuck B 
C 34 
Elusive 


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On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:17 PM, robert via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 




Bill 
You will never regret putting a furler on your boat. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C 32 - 84 
Halifax,N.S. 

On 2017-07-25 6:00 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List wrote: 



Tapestry is all original from '81, no 'conveniences' of furler, self tailers, 
clutches, or any modern rigging. It's kind of interesting being the throwback 
to older times among all the jazz on my dock. Alas, I asked our rigger to quote 
a Schaefer furler last week. 
Bill Dakin 
S/V Tapestry, 
'81 25 MKII 



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Re: Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership)

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Years of racing J24s, J30s & Etchells, never thought I'd have a furler.  Now a 
little older, wiser and sporting a Stackpack too. 

Not the fastest setup, but still finding a way to win club races. 
And my wife and I can be off the mooring and sailing in minutes. Put-away is 
just as quick. I am sure we use our boat many times more than those around us 
just because it is so easy. No sail- folding arguments either!

Enjoy!

Chuck B
C 34 
Elusive 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:17 PM, robert via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Bill
> You will never regret putting a furler on your boat.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax,N.S.
> 
>> On 2017-07-25 6:00 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List wrote:
>> Tapestry is all original from '81, no 'conveniences' of furler, self 
>> tailers, clutches, or any modern rigging.  It's kind of interesting being 
>> the throwback to older times among all the jazz on my dock.  Alas, I asked 
>> our rigger to quote a Schaefer furler last week.
>> Bill Dakin
>> S/V Tapestry,
>> '81 25 MKII
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Hillerange stove thermostat

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Suremarineservice.com. in Seattle 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 
 Original message From: DON JONSSON via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/25/17  09:14  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: DON JONSSON  Subject: Stus-List 
Hillerange stove thermostat 
Hello all

I'm looking for a thermostat for a Hillerange oven.  It is on our 1981 C 34 
and it is the brown three burner, model number is 3121 and is also known as the 
Seaward Princess (I think).  The thermostat is part number 70400.  We cannot 
get our current one rebuilt in Seattle because our current one is for natural 
gas not propane and that is the problem.  Someone must have replaced it with 
the wrong one at some point and it has never worked since I have owned the 
boat.  The pilot light will not stay lit. 

If anyone happens to have a functioning one on a stove that is not longer used 
I would be interested.

Thanks
Don Jonsson
Swan Song, C 34
Victoria, B.C.

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Re: Stus-List Removing wood bungs

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Drill a hole in the bung till the drill bit contacts the screw that's
beneath the bung.  Then screw in a sheet metal screw.  When the sheet metal
screw contacts the screw that's under the bung, continue to screw it in,
and the bung will slide out.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:52 AM, John McKay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if C used glue or varnish on interior wooden bungs?
>
> Have to remove 7 of them and just trying to get a handle on the job so I
> am doing as little damage as possible.
>
> Thank you
>
> John on Enterprise
>
> 33 MK II
> Sarnia Ontario
>
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Re: Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership)

[robert via CnC-List]

Bill
You will never regret putting a furler on your boat.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax,N.S.

On 2017-07-25 6:00 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List wrote:
Tapestry is all original from '81, no 'conveniences' of furler, self 
tailers, clutches, or any modern rigging.  It's kind of interesting 
being the throwback to older times among all the jazz on my dock.  
Alas, I asked our rigger to quote a Schaefer furler last week.

Bill Dakin
S/V Tapestry,
'81 25 MKII



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Re: Stus-List Hillerange stove thermostat

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Hi Don

We had the same problem when we got our 34 19 years ago - keeping the pilot
light lit.  We replaced our thermostat years ago and that fixed our problem.
Will dig into my records to see if I can find where we got the part.

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of DON
JONSSON via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: DON JONSSON
Subject: Stus-List Hillerange stove thermostat

Hello all

I'm looking for a thermostat for a Hillerange oven.  It is on our 1981 C
34 and it is the brown three burner, model number is 3121 and is also known
as the Seaward Princess (I think).  The thermostat is part number 70400.  We
cannot get our current one rebuilt in Seattle because our current one is for
natural gas not propane and that is the problem.  Someone must have replaced
it with the wrong one at some point and it has never worked since I have
owned the boat.  The pilot light will not stay lit. 

If anyone happens to have a functioning one on a stove that is not longer
used I would be interested.

Thanks
Don Jonsson
Swan Song, C 34
Victoria, B.C.

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Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership)

[Bill Dakin via CnC-List]

Tapestry is all original from '81, no 'conveniences' of furler, self
tailers, clutches, or any modern rigging.  It's kind of interesting being
the throwback to older times among all the jazz on my dock.  Alas, I asked
our rigger to quote a Schaefer furler last week.
Bill Dakin
S/V Tapestry,
'81 25 MKII
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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[ahycrace via CnC-List]

Fix the pump if possible 
Gary Kolc "Liberty"
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/25/17  11:45 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew Schlanger  Subject: 
Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF 
I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
Yanmar 3GMF.
It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!

Are there reasonable alternatives?

Thanks


Matthew Schlanger
The Office
C 35 MKIII


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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

I was hoping they'd make it.  Now that we have a motel at the lake, a racing 
sled would be fun; used of course.  My budget can't take new.For the "no 
effort" crowd, maybe back to self tacking jibs and lazy jacks.  My wife is 
complaining about the 160% genny which I need in anything under 10kts.  And I'm 
getting tired of folding the main.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL


  From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:47 AM
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“real” C in any way except the logo, but then they went and changed that 
too. I used to think sailors got tired of sailing and bought trawlers, but an 
informal look around shows the end destination of sailors seems to be a nice 
center console fishing boat. I can kind of see it too, no systems really, the 
engine winterizes itself every time you tilt it up, and it fits into any random 
time slot. Hard to convince a modern scheduled to death family to carve out the 
time needed to own and use a sailboat. You too can take a week off work that 
just happens to coincide with a Bermuda high and you’ll never touch the sails, 
but you will combine heat, humidity, AND bugs!    Joe Coquina C 35 MK I    
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Re: Stus-List Removing wood bungs

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

If the wood is varnished, you should cut through the varnish first.
Otherwise, you may pull up splinters from the wood adjoining the bung.

Go to Harbor Freight.  Buy a cheap set of Forstner drill bits ($10).
Carefully center the correct size bit in the bung.  Rotate a few times
around the bung to cut the varnish.

Even if the piece isn't varnished, it's still a good idea to cut around the
bung.

Drill a hole in the center of the bung 1/2 to 2/3 the size of the bung.
Insert a woodscrew until it contacts the fastener.  Carefully rotate the
screw a bit more.  If you're lucky, the bung will ride up the screw.  It
may just crumble to pieces.  Pick out the pieces with an awl or knife tip.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Just use a wood screw to screw into the bung.  It will pop right out.  It
> will  e destroyed but it will come out.  Get/cut a new plug, glue in place,
> shave off with a chisel.  Lightly sand with a block.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Jul 25, 2017 12:52 PM, "John McKay via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if C used glue or varnish on interior wooden bungs?
>>
>> Have to remove 7 of them and just trying to get a handle on the job so I
>> am doing as little damage as possible.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> John on Enterprise
>>
>> 33 MK II
>> Sarnia Ontario
>>
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Re: Stus-List Removing wood bungs

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Just use a wood screw to screw into the bung.  It will pop right out.  It
will  e destroyed but it will come out.  Get/cut a new plug, glue in place,
shave off with a chisel.  Lightly sand with a block.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jul 25, 2017 12:52 PM, "John McKay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if C used glue or varnish on interior wooden bungs?
>
> Have to remove 7 of them and just trying to get a handle on the job so I
> am doing as little damage as possible.
>
> Thank you
>
> John on Enterprise
>
> 33 MK II
> Sarnia Ontario
>
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Re: Stus-List Removing wood bungs

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

John,

Most of the ones I've removed on Our 33-ll were siliconed in.

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of John McKay via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:52:05 PM
To: C List
Cc: John McKay
Subject: Stus-List Removing wood bungs

Does anyone know if C used glue or varnish on interior wooden bungs?

Have to remove 7 of them and just trying to get a handle on the job so I am 
doing as little damage as possible.

Thank you

John on Enterprise

33 MK II
Sarnia Ontario

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Stus-List Reminder: SIX WEEKS AWAY -- C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- Sept. 8-10, 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Now just six weeks away, on behalf of Rob Gallagher (C 30 Mk II; Hanuman), 
David Risch (C 40; Corsair) and Don Sweeney (C 36; Harbor Lights), I would 
like to invite you to attend our 2017 C Northeast Rendezvous; September 8-10, 
2017 in Greenport . 

Some of the highlights include pot luck group dinners, informal tours of C, 
exploring Greenport, cigars, cocktails and more cocktails. Did I mention 
drinks? 

We have dock space reserved at Mitchell Park Marina, located within a four-acre 
park at the center of Greenport Village. A few steps away are boutiques, shops, 
grocery stores, pubs, ice cream parlors, coffee bars, and several highly-rated 
restaurants. You can even ferry (or dinghy) across the river to beautiful 
Shelter Island — something for everyone! 

There are already seven C’s scheduled to attend — and there’s plenty of room 
for more to join in on what’s shaping up to be our best Northeast Rendezvous 
yet! 

And, seriously, when was the last time you had a rendezvous with its own “Movie 
Trailer”? (Go full screen and crank the volume — trust me) — 
https://youtu.be/M8yBSXuHPaQ  

Website with Online Registration: cncnortheast.com  
(please sign up there to take advantage of our group rate and all the freebie 
goodies from our sponsors.)

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List]

Yes raw water pumped into the heat exchange.
Thanks for the info. 
Still researching.


Matt

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I replaced the Fresh Water pump on 3GM30F two years ago.  I sourced the part 
> from local Yanmar parts dealer.  Was $206.61 CAD +taxes and easily replaced.  
> Gasket was 5.52 We have not changed the raw water pump. Item number for pump 
> was 121000-42100 and for gasket was 121000-42052.  I am not sure if these 
> were dealer part numbers or Yanmar.  I think yanmar. 
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew 
> Schlanger via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:46 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Matthew Schlanger
> Subject: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
> Yanmar 3GMF.
> It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!
> 
> Are there reasonable alternatives?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 MKIII
> 
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Stus-List Removing wood bungs

[John McKay via CnC-List]

Does anyone know if C used glue or varnish on interior wooden bungs?
Have to remove 7 of them and just trying to get a handle on the job so I am 
doing as little damage as possible.
Thank you
John on Enterprise
33 MK IISarnia Ontario
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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

Most water pumps can be rebuilt.  I would guess that all you need is a new 
seal.  Surely any good mechanic could replace it if they have the right 
equipment.
Frank
 

On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:46 AM, Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
Yanmar 3GMF.
It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!

Are there reasonable alternatives?

Thanks


Matthew Schlanger
The Office
C 35 MKIII


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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Also try Jabsco’s website:

http://www.xylemflowcontrol.com/jabsco/jabsco-pedestal-pumps.htm 


I was able to replace the after-market raw water pump on my 3QM30 with a direct 
Jabsco replacement several years ago.  Still about $175.00, but much better 
than $549.00...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Raw water pump?  
> 
> http://www.depcopump.com/ 
> http://www.pumpagents.com/ 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
> Yanmar 3GMF.
> It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!
> 
> Are there reasonable alternatives?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 MKIII

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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

http://poseidonmarine.eu/inboard_engines_product.php?p=18=wppi

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jul 25, 2017 11:47 AM, "Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for
> my Yanmar 3GMF.
> It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!
>
> Are there reasonable alternatives?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 MKIII
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Raw water pump?

http://www.depcopump.com/
http://www.pumpagents.com/

Dennis C.


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for
> my Yanmar 3GMF.
> It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!
>
> Are there reasonable alternatives?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 MKIII
>
>
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Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List]

I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
Yanmar 3GMF.
It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!

Are there reasonable alternatives?

Thanks


Matthew Schlanger
The Office
C 35 MKIII


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Re: Stus-List 3M tape

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

I'm in Canada and recently ordered 4991 from: http://nhsmedia.com/
Dow Corning 795 from https://www.hitechglazing.com

Had both within a week.

Cheers,
  Jeremy


From: Fred Hazzard 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:14:13 -0700
Subject: Stus-List 3M tape
I am finally going replace one of my long ports.  I wrote down 2 numbers
suggested by you listers.  Vbh 4991 & 5952.  Which one is preferred?
Also, where to buy, Amazon?

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I had a hard time thinking of the “new” C as related to “real” C in any 
way except the logo, but then they went and changed that too.
I used to think sailors got tired of sailing and bought trawlers, but an 
informal look around shows the end destination of sailors seems to be a nice 
center console fishing boat. I can kind of see it too, no systems really, the 
engine winterizes itself every time you tilt it up, and it fits into any random 
time slot. Hard to convince a modern scheduled to death family to carve out the 
time needed to own and use a sailboat. You too can take a week off work that 
just happens to coincide with a Bermuda high and you’ll never touch the sails, 
but you will combine heat, humidity, AND bugs!

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
rjcasciato--- via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're 
destined to repeat it.
My own opinion is that sailing has become a diminishing interest.while 
power boats are enjoying a growth market.
It's the immediate gratification generation..just turn the key and drive 
away.
It's not the lack of money...except for special circumstances.e.g. 
Comanche, Meteor, etc..the money is going into power.
Check out the MJM 50 e.g.  big engines, gyroscopic stabilization and a $2.5 M 
pricetag.
And the waiting list is over 3 years long..MJM produces at least 2 boats 
per week.from 35' to 50'...the least expensive is in the $900K 
range.
Makes me really like my C even more
Ron C.


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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:35 PM -0400, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
So how many times does this make for C?

Hope blooms eternal...

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List 
> wrote:

http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf



Alerion Yachts,

C Yachts,

True North Yachts,

North Rip Boats,

licensed builder of several JBoat models



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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

It is also aging population

The great thing about sailing vs powerboating is that everyone on board is 
involved in sailing whereas powerboat is like sitting on the beach.  Boring (if 
you are not the driver).  Sailing can be a lot of work and racing needs an 
active crew.  Powerboat you are less dependent on other people to take your 
boat out for the day.

My last boat will hopefully be something like a Mainship.  It will be flag blue.

Sabre also made that realization.

Even the major sailboat manufacturers are making sailboats that have more and 
more the attributes of powerboats ….

Interesting …

Mike
Persistence
A sailboat


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
rjcasciato--- via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're 
destined to repeat it.
My own opinion is that sailing has become a diminishing interest.while 
power boats are enjoying a growth market.
It's the immediate gratification generation..just turn the key and drive 
away.
It's not the lack of money...except for special circumstances.e.g. 
Comanche, Meteor, etc..the money is going into power.
Check out the MJM 50 e.g.  big engines, gyroscopic stabilization and a $2.5 M 
pricetag.
And the waiting list is over 3 years long..MJM produces at least 2 boats 
per week.from 35' to 50'...the least expensive is in the $900K 
range.
Makes me really like my C even more
Ron C.


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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:35 PM -0400, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
So how many times does this make for C?

Hope blooms eternal...

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List 
> wrote:

http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf



Alerion Yachts,

C Yachts,

True North Yachts,

North Rip Boats,

licensed builder of several JBoat models



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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

There were 4 separate failures while being built alongside Tartan in Ohio.


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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:21 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm
> 
> I asked a friend how many times C might have repeated this:
> He says ...
> 
> "Let me try
> 1. First it was that airline guy
> 2. North South charter guy
> 3. Hong Kong guy
> 4 Tartan Yachts guy
> 5. Now US Watercraft. 
> 
> That's 5!  Must be a record in the industry!"
> 
> Don
> 
> Don Harben
> Viking 34
> Life
> www.ncyc.ca
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:05 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from 
>> historyyou're destined to repeat it.
> 
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