Re: Stus-List Refrig

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

If you have fast frosting after you start the system, the compressor or a leak 
might not be the problem, have you replaced the evaporator too 3 years ago? 
Then can clog and give you uneven frosting. I heard that some people/ pro can 
clean/purge them, but once it stats it might happen again and should be 
replaced.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33 mkII
New Richmond, Qc

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Le 13 juil. 2018 à 21:43, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Sorry I have limited data.  But there is a way to connect a led light to the 
controller to see if there are any faults.  Just google it.  Mine was the 
controller.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:47 PM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So.  3 year old old Danfoss 12 volt refrig.   Last one lasted us  20 plus 
years.  This one...?   Worked great until this year.  Start it up.  Fan is 
going and we get frosting at the evaporator at where the tubes enter.   But not 
consistent throughout evaporator.  If a coolant leak would we get any frosting 
of evap at all?

Voltage is 12.5 or better .

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Check out Mars Metals. They made the original keels.

https://marskeel.com/production/repair-modifications/draft-reductions/


> On July 13, 2018 at 12:58 PM Languid Refiner via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will 
> be using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it 
> will cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence 
> River and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice or 
> guidance to offer?
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Noah
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Re: Stus-List Refrig

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Sorry I have limited data.  But there is a way to connect a led light to the 
controller to see if there are any faults.  Just google it.  Mine was the 
controller.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:47 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> So.  3 year old old Danfoss 12 volt refrig.   Last one lasted us  20 plus 
> years.  This one...?   Worked great until this year.  Start it up.  Fan is 
> going and we get frosting at the evaporator at where the tubes enter.   But 
> not consistent throughout evaporator.  If a coolant leak would we get any 
> frosting of evap at all?  
> 
> Voltage is 12.5 or better .
> 
> Thanks in advance.  
> 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Did someone put the brake on?

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Tom cunningham via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All!
> I’m new to this list and am really not sure how it works (or if I’ve set it 
> up at all correctly) 
> My name is Tom and I’m in shelter island N.Y.
> I’ve recently purchased an 1982 landfall 35 and am having the most horrific 
> time with the rudder.
> The helm was pretty free when I first inspected the boat (I was able to 
> easily swing the rudder by hand from the ground)
> However, during the time the boat was in the yard, whenever I came back to 
> the steering it seemed stiffer but I was caught up in other goals and didn’t 
> pay enough mind so did nothing.
> Now though, with the boat in the water it takes a tremendous amount of force 
> to move the rudder at all. I’ve troubleshot and disconnected the Edson helm 
> and after making a sling have attempted to drop the rudder to see if it’s 
> bent but it won’t budge. I’m currently injecting penetrating oil where 
> possible and manipulating  the rudder with the emergency tiller.  I’ve 
> already spoken with the c and c guys in Canada whom, after hearing me out, 
> thought it was an interesting problem. 
> I too am interested and am looking for help.
> 
> Tom Cunningham
> tomcunning...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>> 
>> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 
>> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel 
>> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your 
>> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a 
>> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they 
>> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point 
>> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder 
>> first!
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

[Tom cunningham via CnC-List]

Hello All!
I’m new to this list and am really not sure how it works (or if I’ve set it up 
at all correctly) 
My name is Tom and I’m in shelter island N.Y.
I’ve recently purchased an 1982 landfall 35 and am having the most horrific 
time with the rudder.
The helm was pretty free when I first inspected the boat (I was able to easily 
swing the rudder by hand from the ground)
However, during the time the boat was in the yard, whenever I came back to the 
steering it seemed stiffer but I was caught up in other goals and didn’t pay 
enough mind so did nothing.
Now though, with the boat in the water it takes a tremendous amount of force to 
move the rudder at all. I’ve troubleshot and disconnected the Edson helm and 
after making a sling have attempted to drop the rudder to see if it’s bent but 
it won’t budge. I’m currently injecting penetrating oil where possible and 
manipulating  the rudder with the emergency tiller.  I’ve already spoken with 
the c and c guys in Canada whom, after hearing me out, thought it was an 
interesting problem. 
I too am interested and am looking for help.

Tom Cunningham
tomcunning...@me.com






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> On Jul 13, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
> 
> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 37R 
> keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel filled 
> with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your keel 
> with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a certain 
> size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they supplied the 
> original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point having your 
> rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder first!
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On
> 
> Sent from my mobile device. 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Second try at including the drawing:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UGxSu8vnaOY/WrcFPOB9mUI/AAABuX8/fZG5XGUGQUQ6ONsYZ5Sfb_Bcm1aC9Uo4QCEwYBhgL/s1600/Keel%2BDesign.jpg

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 21:34, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> Assailant's keel weight is listed in it's build file as 6,885 lbs so it
> was lightened about 500 lbs from the stock 7,250 lbs. at the factory,
> probably by using sand occlusions up high in the casting.  Here is a
> drawing of what those occlusions look like and where they are in the keel:
>
> http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/inside-c_15.html
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>>
>> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the
>> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel
>> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your
>> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a
>> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they
>> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point
>> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder
>> first!
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Assailant's keel weight is listed in it's build file as 6,885 lbs so it was
lightened about 500 lbs from the stock 7,250 lbs. at the factory, probably
by using sand occlusions up high in the casting.  Here is a drawing of what
those occlusions look like and where they are in the keel:

http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/inside-c_15.html

Ken H.



On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>
> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the
> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel
> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your
> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a
> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they
> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point
> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder
> first!
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Good idea.

Buddy of mine bought a Beneteau 47 with a deep keel and had a shoal keel
put on.  A few weeks later he found a guy with a shoal keel that wanted a
deep keel.  Bad timing.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Why don’t you two swap keels?
>
> Seriously
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 2:08 PM
> *To:* C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?
>
>
>
> My advice is don't.  You're undertaking a considerable project to cruise a
> boat that was not built to be a cruiser.  IMO you'll be happier finding a
> racer/cruiser boat that fits you needs and sailing grounds.  Retain the
> value of the 37R for someone looking to race.  I find my 37+ (tall rig,
> wing keel) to be tender and frequently wonder if a deeper keel would
> beneficial.
>
>
>
> If you insist on proceeding then I would make sure that to modify to the
> largest torpedo bulb possible and draft to 6 or 6.5 feet.
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Refrig

[David via CnC-List]

So.  3 year old old Danfoss 12 volt refrig.   Last one lasted us  20 plus 
years.  This one...?   Worked great until this year.  Start it up.  Fan is 
going and we get frosting at the evaporator at where the tubes enter.   But not 
consistent throughout evaporator.  If a coolant leak would we get any frosting 
of evap at all?

Voltage is 12.5 or better .

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Re: Stus-List Mast paint

[john sandford via CnC-List]

I used Brightside on mine.

Rolled and tipped. 3 coats.

Sanded the original anodised mast right down to full metal. Etched with WEST 2 
part etc (No longer available) then primed with Zinc Chromate (No longer 
available)  

All of the “No longer available” I happened to find old stock around, with 
folks who didn’t know it has been banned.

Looks amazing and has been up for 3 years with no problem.

Brightside is not hard like the epoxy paint that Akzo Nobel sell, but It was 
straightforward to apply, once I learned to really, really thin it, and keep a 
wet edge.

A few dings, of course, with the yellow chromate showing through till I touch 
it up.

 

 

 

 

From: svrebeccaleah [mailto:svrebeccal...@gmail.com] 
Sent: July-13-18 4:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Mast paint

 

I am getting to repaint the mast on my 1988 LF39. Does anyone on here have a 
clue what paint C uses on their spars? The local chandlery suggested Interlux 
Brightside, not knowing what is currently on there. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance

Doug

 

 

 

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Port Orchard YC 

Rebecca Leah 

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Re: Stus-List Mast paint

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Awl grip is easy to bush on with great results. You may want to have a helper 
painting the other side of the mast at the same time, but that's true of any 
paint. I would certainly use Awl Grip. Just make sure you're in a a non dusty 
part of the yard. Not that it really matters, all you're going to see is the 
bottom 8 feet of the mast. 

Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Jul 13, 2018, at 16:28, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Not enough detail.  Are you doing it yourself?  Awlcraft 2000 is what my yard 
> used.  They had a spray gun and paint shed so it was a co trolled, 
> professional application.  It may not be a good choice for a DIY.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 3:08 PM svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I am getting to repaint the mast on my 1988 LF39. Does anyone on here have a 
>> clue what paint C uses on their spars? The local chandlery suggested 
>> Interlux Brightside, not knowing what is currently on there. 
>> Any help would be appreciated. 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> Doug Mountjoy 
>> Port Orchard YC 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

BTW My boat came like that, and a deal i could not nor would nor refuse. 
Cruising the pamlico and neuse river dont allow for much more draft, and I  
have already dabbed a few times but its just mush.
Very glad I was able to find this boat locally and have a C  to sail in a 
land of Catalina, Benys and  Island Packets
Now its time to finish the punchlist and  be first over the line, as she has 
done in the past :)

John Conklin


On Jul 13, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My advice is don't.  You're undertaking a considerable project to cruise a boat 
that was not built to be a cruiser.  IMO you'll be happier finding a 
racer/cruiser boat that fits you needs and sailing grounds.  Retain the value 
of the 37R for someone looking to race.  I find my 37+ (tall rig, wing keel) to 
be tender and frequently wonder if a deeper keel would beneficial.

If you insist on proceeding then I would make sure that to modify to the 
largest torpedo bulb possible and draft to 6 or 6.5 feet.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 12:59 PM Languid Refiner via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be 
using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will 
cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence River 
and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance 
to offer?

Many Thanks,

Noah
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Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hi Noah,

We bought our 37/40 in Ontario back in 2010 and sailed it down the St.
Lawrence to Cape Breton Island where we live.  We have the 8' 2" Deep Fin
Keel, same as yours.  We had zero issues with this depth of keel, anywhere
we went on that trip and only occasionally since.  Where are you going to
use the boat that you need to shorten the keel?  Just curious.

I'm quite please with the deep keel actually, I'm glad we held out for one
when we were searching for a boat.

By the way, your boat has had a few different names over the years,
including: 'Painkiller Two', 'Hippy Chick', and 'Lake Effect'.  I prefer  '
Assailant'.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html


On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 13:59, Languid Refiner via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will
> be using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it
> will cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St.
> Lawrence River and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have
> advice or guidance to offer?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Noah
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Re: Stus-List Mast paint

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Not enough detail.  Are you doing it yourself?  Awlcraft 2000 is what my
yard used.  They had a spray gun and paint shed so it was a co trolled,
professional application.  It may not be a good choice for a DIY.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 3:08 PM svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am getting to repaint the mast on my 1988 LF39. Does anyone on here have
> a clue what paint C uses on their spars? The local chandlery suggested
> Interlux Brightside, not knowing what is currently on there.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
> Doug
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy
> Port Orchard YC
> Rebecca Leah
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Stus-List Mast paint

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

I am getting to repaint the mast on my 1988 LF39. Does anyone on here have a 
clue what paint C uses on their spars? The local chandlery suggested Interlux 
Brightside, not knowing what is currently on there. Any help would be 
appreciated. Thanks in advanceDoug


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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Why don’t you two swap keels?
Seriously

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 2:08 PM
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

My advice is don't.  You're undertaking a considerable project to cruise a boat 
that was not built to be a cruiser.  IMO you'll be happier finding a 
racer/cruiser boat that fits you needs and sailing grounds.  Retain the value 
of the 37R for someone looking to race.  I find my 37+ (tall rig, wing keel) to 
be tender and frequently wonder if a deeper keel would beneficial.

If you insist on proceeding then I would make sure that to modify to the 
largest torpedo bulb possible and draft to 6 or 6.5 feet.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 12:59 PM Languid Refiner via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be 
using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will 
cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence River 
and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance 
to offer?

Many Thanks,

Noah
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Stus-List 1988 C

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!

Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 37R 
keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel filled with 
sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your keel with a 
small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a certain size 
(weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they supplied the original 
lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point having your rudder deeper 
than your keel or you could find bottom rudder first!
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On

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>   1.  1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice? (Languid Refiner)
>   2. Re:  1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice? (Russ & Melody)
>   3. Re:  [EXTERNAL]1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?
>  (Della Barba, Joe)
>   4. Re:  1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice? (John Conklin)
>   5.  C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? (T Smyth)
>   6.  C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? (T Smyth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 12:58:30 -0400
> From: Languid Refiner 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?
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> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be
> using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will
> cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence
> River and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice
> or guidance to offer?
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Noah
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> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:10:30 -0700
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> Hi Noah,
> 
> It can be done. Too many details to list here, but this is a good start:
> https://marskeel.com/production/repair-modifications/draft-reductions/
> 
> Cheers, Russ
> Sweet 35mk-1
> for sale on Vancouver Island, feel free to forward link SVP,
> http://www.usednanaimo.com/classified-ad/CC-35-sailboat_29730445
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:58 AM 7/13/2018, you wrote:
>> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and 
>> will be using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw 
>> looks like it will cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do 
>> along the St. Lawrence River and onward. My plan is to shorten the 
>> keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance to offer?
>> 
>> Many Thanks,
>> 
>> Noah
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> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL]1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?
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> Call Mars Metals. They will make a bulb for you to bolt on and give you some 
> credit for the lead you cut off.
> Joe
> Coquina
> C 35 MK I
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Languid 
> Refiner via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 12:59 PM
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?
> 
> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be 
> using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will 
> cau

Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

My advice is don't.  You're undertaking a considerable project to cruise a
boat that was not built to be a cruiser.  IMO you'll be happier finding a
racer/cruiser boat that fits you needs and sailing grounds.  Retain the
value of the 37R for someone looking to race.  I find my 37+ (tall rig,
wing keel) to be tender and frequently wonder if a deeper keel would
beneficial.

If you insist on proceeding then I would make sure that to modify to the
largest torpedo bulb possible and draft to 6 or 6.5 feet.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 12:59 PM Languid Refiner via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will
> be using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it
> will cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St.
> Lawrence River and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have
> advice or guidance to offer?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Noah
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Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[T Smyth via CnC-List]

> C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574
> 
> Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
> to purchase for this boat?
> 
> In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how 
> others are solving this problem.
> 
> (When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
> lazarette.)
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Tom
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Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

The  keel on my 1982 - standard 37 was taken from 6’10”
 (originally fin keel) to 5’6”
with bulb
She sails like a dream. I can post pics but my message always get rejected :(
shoot me email happy to send along

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
www.flirtingwithfire.net

On Jul 13, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Hi Noah,

It can be done. Too many details to list here, but this is a good start:
https://marskeel.com/production/repair-modifications/draft-reductions/

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35mk-1
for sale on Vancouver Island, feel free to forward link SVP,
http://www.usednanaimo.com/classified-ad/CC-35-sailboat_29730445




At 09:58 AM 7/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be 
using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will 
cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence River 
and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance 
to offer?

Many Thanks,

Noah
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Call Mars Metals. They will make a bulb for you to bolt on and give you some 
credit for the lead you cut off.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Languid 
Refiner via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 12:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Languid Refiner
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be 
using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will 
cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence River 
and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance 
to offer?

Many Thanks,

Noah
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Re: Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Noah,

It can be done. Too many details to list here, but this is a good start:
https://marskeel.com/production/repair-modifications/draft-reductions/

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35mk-1
for sale on Vancouver Island, feel free to forward link SVP,
http://www.usednanaimo.com/classified-ad/CC-35-sailboat_29730445




At 09:58 AM 7/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and 
will be using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw 
looks like it will cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do 
along the St. Lawrence River and onward. My plan is to shorten the 
keel. Does anyone have advice or guidance to offer?


Many Thanks,

Noah
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Stus-List 1988 37R Keel Shortening Advice?

[Languid Refiner via CnC-List]

Hi Everyone, I've purchased the 1988 37R 'Assailant' in Ontario and will be
using her as a cruiser instead of a racer. The 8'1" draw looks like it will
cause me some grief with the sailing I want to do along the St. Lawrence
River and onward. My plan is to shorten the keel. Does anyone have advice
or guidance to offer?

Many Thanks,

Noah
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

One reason people like traction batteries (golf cart, floor sweeper, etc) is 
that they have decent life down to 80% discharge. A start battery like a car 
battery will die very quickly cycled like that.
Joe

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

And keep in mind that the 190 AH rating is just the rating. You will probably 
be able to use half of that on a regular basis (or you would murder the 
battery).

Marek

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 07:42
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

And keep in mind that the 190 AH rating is just the rating. You will probably 
be able to use half of that on a regular basis (or you would murder the 
battery).

Marek

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 07:42
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Forgot to add:
CCA is cold cranking amps – the max current you can get (briefly) into a dead 
short at 0 degrees F.
MCCA is marine cold cranking amps – the same thing at 32 degrees F.
A small lithium battery can have hundreds of cranking amps while only being 
about 10 AH.

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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