Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
That looks pretty much like mine. The bad ones I refaced (or defaced) with valve grinding compound and put a heavy coating of Lanocote on the whole thing before reassembling. They are a mite difficult to turn in winter but they don't leak. I would advise doing this out of the water. In the meantime, you could unscrew the square nuts on the side of the unit, screw in a zerc fitting, and pump some heavy grease into it while in the water. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 10:19, John Christopher via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I don’t think you can see the full seacock but this was the leak. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/T5NHhWbUy1ynxMEq7 > > > /John > > On May 5, 2019, at 9:19 PM, sender wrote: > > can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco > cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible > with conventional greases. > Eric > > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin >> enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it >> with an angle grinder. >> >> Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the >> water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already >> (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto >> (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make >> sure the handle is in the "open" position. >> >> Good reference at >> https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ >> >> First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them >> and was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was >> on the hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. >> >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >> >> On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. >> >> >> >> /John >> >> On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. >> >> Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle >> attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking >> from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). >> >> Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? >> >> >> /John >> >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
Similar to Charlie, I have a open end at both ends of the boom. It is relatively easy to get to the attachment for the purchase system at the mast end of the boom. When I re-rigged mine, I found no purchase system but designed one for the outhaul and the first reef. The outhaul is a 4:1 or 5:1 (I can't remember), and the first reef is 3:1. If I had to remove the systems I would put a tag line on the outboard end tail and disconnect the mast end attachment, then withdraw the whole system. I think you will probably find that the exposed parts that attach to the sail are separate pieces from those that exit the mast. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:06 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don't know about the 35-3 outhaul system but my 36XL/kcb there is a > purchase system buried in the boom as well likely similar to yours. > > Mine can be accessed by undoing a shackle near the gooseneck on the > underside of the boom after the the outhaul is free to move. > > IIRC, you should undo the outhaul line from the mainsail clew, attach a > messenger line to it and then pull the purchase out from the gooseneck > opening. The messenger line makes it much easier to reassemble plus it > helps in understanding how the purchase works and how to reassemble > it-don't > ask me how I know!! > > This is not to say even this procedure is 'easy'--working above your head > under the boom at the gooseneck is a PITA. However, I don't believe you > need to disassemble the boom to replace the purchase--although you may feel > that you have done that just getting the purchase system out! > > My boom cannot be disassembled--everything is welded. > > YMMV, > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb > Water Phantom > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List > To: cnc-list > Cc: Luke Wolbrink > Sent: Mon, May 6, 2019 1:39 pm > Subject: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line > > Hello, > > I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the > outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making > replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is > there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible > without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better > done from the gooseneck or the clew end? > > Thanks in advance, > Luke > 1985 35-3 'Zella' > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
Our 37/40+ has wire leading to the sail clew but line coming out the gooseneck leading to a clutch and winch. After pulling out the wire cable, I found an eye one end and the line tied to the eye. Very simple. Not sure this will help,Bruce Whitmore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List Date: 5/6/19 2:16 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line I don't have that issue with our boat, I just drag it all out the boom end after taping a messenger line to the line coming out the gooseneck end. Jim WattsParadigm ShiftC&C 35 Mk IIIVictoria, BCOn Mon, 6 May 2019 at 10:39, Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List wrote:Hello,I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better done from the gooseneck or the clew end?Thanks in advance,Luke1985 35-3 'Zella' ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
I don't have that issue with our boat, I just drag it all out the boom end after taping a messenger line to the line coming out the gooseneck end. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 10:39, Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the > outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making > replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is > there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible > without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better > done from the gooseneck or the clew end? > > Thanks in advance, > Luke > 1985 35-3 'Zella' > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
Don't know about the 35-3 outhaul system but my 36XL/kcb there is a purchase system buried in the boom as well likely similar to yours. Mine can be accessed by undoing a shackle near the gooseneck on the underside of the boom after the the outhaul is free to move. IIRC, you should undo the outhaul line from the mainsail clew, attach a messenger line to it and then pull the purchase out from the gooseneck opening. The messenger line makes it much easier to reassemble plus it helps in understanding how the purchase works and how to reassemble it-don't ask me how I know!! This is not to say even this procedure is 'easy'--working above your head under the boom at the gooseneck is a PITA. However, I don't believe you need to disassemble the boom to replace the purchase--although you may feel that you have done that just getting the purchase system out! My boom cannot be disassembled--everything is welded. YMMV, Charlie Nelson1995 C&C 36XL/kcbWater Phantom -Original Message- From: Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Luke Wolbrink Sent: Mon, May 6, 2019 1:39 pm Subject: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line Hello, I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better done from the gooseneck or the clew end? Thanks in advance,Luke1985 35-3 'Zella'___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
Is the current outhaul line still there? Can you attach a new line to old and pull it thru?I use whipping twine to sew old and new lines end to end then gently pull in new line. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa. Original message From: Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List Date: 5/6/19 10:38 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Luke Wolbrink Subject: Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line Hello,I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better done from the gooseneck or the clew end?Thanks in advance,Luke1985 35-3 'Zella' ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List 35-5 outhaul control line
Hello, I'm currently re-rigging my 35-3 and have run into some trouble with the outhaul. There is clearly a purchase system inside the boom making replacing the control line that comes out at the gooseneck impossible. Is there anyone on here who has made this replacement and if so is it possible without taking apart the boom? If I do need to take it apart, is it better done from the gooseneck or the clew end? Thanks in advance, Luke 1985 35-3 'Zella' ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
I don’t think you can see the full seacock but this was the leak. https://photos.app.goo.gl/T5NHhWbUy1ynxMEq7 /John > On May 5, 2019, at 9:19 PM, sender wrote: > > can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco > cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible > with conventional greases. > Eric > >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List >> wrote: >> Hi John >> >> You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin >> enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it >> with an angle grinder. >> >> Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the >> water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already >> (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto >> (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make >> sure the handle is in the "open" position. >> >> Good reference at https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ >> >> First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them and >> was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was on the >> hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. >> >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >>> On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: >>> Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. >>> >>> >>> >>> /John >>> >>> On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: >>> Hi, Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? /John >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >>> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
