Re: Stus-List Double fluorescent overhead dinette light fixture

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Make sure if you go with LEDs that you get "warm white" bulbs. The quality of 
light is excellent!
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jul 20, 2019, at 13:07, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> For those of us that have older boats with the double fluorescent light 
> fixture on the headliner, it's a Thin Lite Model 116.  The bulbs are F13T5's.
> 
> Mine started to flicker a bit this weekend so I explored replacement options. 
>  My first thought was marinebeam's replacement bulbs.  They also make a 
> replacement fixture but the dimensions didn't match.
> 
> However, I discovered Thin Lite makes a direct replacement LED version.  Its 
> Model LED126P.  I saw one on a marine vendor site called an M126P for $73.  
> 
> Mine is still hanging in there but it's good to know a direct replacement is 
> available.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List 12v A-19 bulbs

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Shawn, you mean these?
https://shop.hamiltonmarine.com/products/light-bulb-screw-base-2pk-12v-100w-8-3amp-100a1712-389.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq9_v-4bE4wIVCh6tBh1PlQI5EAQYASABEgJwwfD_BwE


> On Jul 20, 2019, at 10:17 44AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ours has two of these, and one has the replacement LED strips, the other the 
> original Fl tube. Unfortunately, the LEDs are mismatched, and one is cool 
> white, the other warm. If you want the original look, and a more pleasing 
> light, I suggest the warm white LED. Not sure I would spend $70 for a new 
> bulb though... I'd probably investigate a new fixture that accepts more 
> common bulbs. I'm also curious where these fixtures were originally located 
> on the 35mk2 - we have a small one over the sink on a custom upper cabinet, 
> and a larger one over the dinette table area. I think the one over the sink 
> may have been on the cabin top over the stove originally, as there is a hole 
> in the liner there. I am planning to move it back to cover the hole and 
> exposed wires... :)
> 
> Still trying to find a cheaper source for the 12V 60W A19 (big household 
> thread) bulb used in the teak bulkhead lights. They're not common and $30US 
> is the least costly I've seen. 
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com 
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto 
> 
> 

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Re: Stus-List Double fluorescent overhead dinette light fixture

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I took the marine beam replacement led route.  The tubes weren't cheap
(~$20/each) but a drop in replacement bulb that didn't need rewired or new
holes or anything else was a big win.  I got the warm white ones.  I guess
technically MB suggests rewiring the fixtures to bypass the florescent
starting circuit.  Mine have worked just fine without the bypass.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:08 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> For those of us that have older boats with the double fluorescent light
> fixture on the headliner, it's a Thin Lite Model 116.  The bulbs are
> F13T5's.
>
> Mine started to flicker a bit this weekend so I explored replacement
> options.  My first thought was marinebeam's replacement bulbs.  They also
> make a replacement fixture but the dimensions didn't match.
>
> However, I discovered Thin Lite makes a direct replacement LED version.
> Its Model LED126P.  I saw one on a marine vendor site called an M126P for
> $73.
>
> Mine is still hanging in there but it's good to know a direct replacement
> is available.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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>
>
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Re: Stus-List Double fluorescent overhead dinette light fixture

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Ours has two of these, and one has the replacement LED strips, the other
the original Fl tube. Unfortunately, the LEDs are mismatched, and one is
cool white, the other warm. If you want the original look, and a more
pleasing light, I suggest the warm white LED. Not sure I would spend $70
for a new bulb though... I'd probably investigate a new fixture that
accepts more common bulbs. I'm also curious where these fixtures were
originally located on the 35mk2 - we have a small one over the sink on a
custom upper cabinet, and a larger one over the dinette table area. I think
the one over the sink may have been on the cabin top over the stove
originally, as there is a hole in the liner there. I am planning to move it
back to cover the hole and exposed wires... :)

Still trying to find a cheaper source for the 12V 60W A19 (big household
thread) bulb used in the teak bulkhead lights. They're not common and $30US
is the least costly I've seen.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:08 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> For those of us that have older boats with the double fluorescent light
> fixture on the headliner, it's a Thin Lite Model 116.  The bulbs are
> F13T5's.
>
> Mine started to flicker a bit this weekend so I explored replacement
> options.  My first thought was marinebeam's replacement bulbs.  They also
> make a replacement fixture but the dimensions didn't match.
>
> However, I discovered Thin Lite makes a direct replacement LED version.
> Its Model LED126P.  I saw one on a marine vendor site called an M126P for
> $73.
>
> Mine is still hanging in there but it's good to know a direct replacement
> is available.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
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Stus-List Double fluorescent overhead dinette light fixture

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

For those of us that have older boats with the double fluorescent light
fixture on the headliner, it's a Thin Lite Model 116.  The bulbs are
F13T5's.

Mine started to flicker a bit this weekend so I explored replacement
options.  My first thought was marinebeam's replacement bulbs.  They also
make a replacement fixture but the dimensions didn't match.

However, I discovered Thin Lite makes a direct replacement LED version.
Its Model LED126P.  I saw one on a marine vendor site called an M126P for
$73.

Mine is still hanging in there but it's good to know a direct replacement
is available.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Survey About Racing

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Comments below


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1




 From:   Randy Stafford  
 To:   cnc-list  
 Sent:   6/27/2019 10:16 AM 
 Subject:   Stus-List Survey About Racing 

Hello Listers, 
 
I’d like to conduct a little survey about racing, tapping into the broad 
experience, geography, and boat diversity represented on this list. 
 
What prompted this is a discussion in my club about ratings, which expanded 
into a discussion about courses, tactics, and relative performance.  I’d like 
to get perspective from the collective knowledge on this list, to add into that 
discussion. 
 
So here are some fairly objective survey questions, for those of you who race 
your boats: 
 
1. Where do you race? Lake Ontario


2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there? 
6 - 14 knots in the spring. Lots of light or dead air in the summer.
Frequent storms, squalls may hit 40 - 60 knots briefly. When the
lake is cold there can be wind shear.


3. What kind of courses do you sail? 
W/L club races and at regattas, short ( < 20 nm ) medium ( < 100 nm )
and one long ( Lake Ontario 300 ) course race,


4. What sail plan do you fly? Mainly flying sail. 195% spinnakers both asymm 
and symm from a pole.


5. What model of boat are you racing? C 30-1 < 506


6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments) 
PHRF-LO FS: 175 NFS: 199  credit of 4 sec/mile for the main, -3 sec/mile 
penalty for 195% spin.
Note that PHRF-LO adjusts based on main sail area but calculates the standard 
area using a
default with lots of roach. My main does touch the backstay, lightly hangs up 
on tacks.


7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail? 
Surfing under spinnaker. The C 30-1 is difficult to get over hull speed so 
even reaching
at 30+ knots doesn't get close to planning ;-)


8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay 
fairly constant? 
Some of the division have a wide rating spread, the fast boats pull ahead and 
stay there.
With light summer wind and the random wind hole lead reversals are common.


9. How many boats are you usually competing against? As little as 4, as much as 
11.


10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results? 
Windburn even for a C 30-1 is heavy. We are disadvantaged in light air, do 
well
in heavy air. As a guess 75% of the time we are in the top 3. On our best days 
we
have taken first at the Youngstown Levels, Lake Ontario 300 and LOSHRS races.


 
And now a few more subjective questions: 
 
11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular kind 
of course with a particular sail plan? 
PHRF-LO states that the rating is suitable ( paraphrasing it here ) for 
windward leeward course of one mile legs in
winds of 4 to 18 knots. No data from triangular or course racing is analyzed 
for rating reviews. 


12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for your 
boat? 
Initially a new boat ( class ) goes through an assessment at a handicapper's 
district meeting. We discuss
everything including US PHRF data, sister classes and comparable. We make a 
best estimate then the
rating is adjusted by -6 sec/mile "Protect The Fleet" for the first year until 
race data is available.


13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance 
against your competition? 
Making the best of a heavy C 30-1. Recently the addition of North Sails 3Di 
155% raw genoa and
main has helped a lot in the light wind.


14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your 
competition? 


Calling lay lines, watching for shifts, avoiding wind holes


 
Thank you very much in advance for your responses to this survey. 
 
Best Regards, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
 
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