Re: Stus-List 1981 C 34
As a follow up, I just learned that a friend of mine is going to sell his same vintage 36. Nearly the same as the 34, but a little more boat. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List > wrote: > > In 2012 or thereabouts, I listed my 1978 C 34 (with numerous expensive > upgrades and relatively new rags) for $35K (US) Absolutely no interest at > that price point. I later came down to $25K, and the boat eventually sold > for $22.5K. The buyer got a great boat at a great price. If I were buying > one today, I think $20K US is fair. > > -Original Message- From: Stephen via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 2:04 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Stephen > Subject: Stus-List 1981 C 34 > > I live in Nova Scotia and have the opportunity to purchase a C 34. Assuming > that the boat is in good condition with no major structural issues, what > would be a reasonable price range? > The pictures show a clean boat which looks like it’s been well maintained. It > does have the Yanmar diesel and the current owner says the sails are in good > shape. > Thanks in advance for your responses. > Steve McCarthy > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 1981 C 34
Steve, I have a 1981 C CB version which we bought in June 2018. It is a fun boat which sails really well and is comfortable for coastal cruising. Prices vary a lot with condition and what it comes with and where you are located. Mine was pretty bare bones with old main and jib (had a sail loft fix them only to have new rips a few months later), broken water heater, broken propane system, head hoses needed to be replaced, missing parts and had been sitting on the hard for 2 years so the cushions we mildewed etc. the hull is solid with no soft spots although there are some problem areas in the deck that I want to fix at some point. Westerbeker 20B2 diesel engine had a bad fuel pump relay which was a $30 part, but it was not running when we bought the boat because of that. We paid $7500 US for the boat. Not sure if that was a good deal in the end or not. We put ~11k in so far (not counting marina costs, haul and storage fees) and lots of sweat equity in getting most systems working over the last year, including new WH, water pump, battery shore charger, rebuilt prop, dripless shaft seal, new foam in the cushions, new cruising sails, some new running rigging, fenders, dock lines, buying safety equipment, a rigid vang, etc. etc. So we have an $18k boat at this point which is mostly in working order although there are always things that need fixing and enhancements that would be nice. I didn’t realize how much a dodger would cost (~5k) and we don’t have one so if your boat comes with one in decent shape that is worth a bit. Same goes for a working autopilot and self-tailing winches. Old boats always can always use more boat bucks so plan on that. It might be better to buy a boat where the previous owner did a bunch of the upgrades - on the other hand I get new stuff the way I want it. In any case, if the sails are crispy and all systems are working and it is reasonably well equipped and clean then something in the $16-$24k US range might be reasonable I think. Lots of recent upgrades, good sail selection, and very clean, then maybe even a bit more. If not, then it should be significantly less I think but you will put most of that money in regardless. Hope that helps. Not sure how the market compares further north. Get a survey done and if it looks good get it and have fun sailing! - - Nathan Post S/V Wisper 1981 C 34 Lynn, MA, USA > On Aug 23, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Stephen via CnC-List > wrote: > > I live in Nova Scotia and have the opportunity to purchase a C 34. Assuming > that the boat is in good condition with no major structural issues, what > would be a reasonable price range? > The pictures show a clean boat which looks like it’s been well maintained. It > does have the Yanmar diesel and the current owner says the sails are in good > shape. > Thanks in advance for your responses. > Steve McCarthy > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast.
I installed Touche's knotmeter nearly on centerline forward of the keel to be a) in less turbulent water and b) to avoid the port/starboard tack bias. It is under the step in the V-berth. An inspection port allows access. If I recall, in this case, the original poster was using GPS speed so knotmeter location was not a factor. Dennis C. On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:23 PM Don Kern via CnC-List wrote: > I have always attributed the slight difference in apparent performance > between Port and Stb'd tacks to be the difference of water flow around > the keel. On my C 35 Mk2 the paddle for speed is on the port side aft > of the leading edge of the keel. The mast head is centered and the mast > is plumb with equal tension on the the lowers (the uppers are 2x the > lowers). Keel and rudder were faired 15 years ago. > > Don Kern > Fireball C 35 MkII > Bristol, RI > > > > On 8/20/2019 12:32 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List wrote: > > I am following this thread with great interest. I measured distances > using the main halyard and believe my mast is plumb. The partners and foot > hold the mast centred as far as I can tell and as long as the boat, keel > and rudder are symmetrical. I continue to point higher and get better > performance on a starboard tack and the boat lists a couple degrees at > anchor, probably because of the battery bank located sb. There are more > reasons than mast plumb that a boat performs better on one tack is my > point. I noted better sb performance with all combinations of water tank > and holding tank levels. I have tried for over 10 years to tune a better > balance but she still sails a little better on starboard tack! > > Len Mitchell > > Crazy Legs > > 1989 37+ > > Midland On > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast.
I have always attributed the slight difference in apparent performance between Port and Stb'd tacks to be the difference of water flow around the keel. On my C 35 Mk2 the paddle for speed is on the port side aft of the leading edge of the keel. The mast head is centered and the mast is plumb with equal tension on the the lowers (the uppers are 2x the lowers). Keel and rudder were faired 15 years ago. Don Kern Fireball C 35 MkII Bristol, RI On 8/20/2019 12:32 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List wrote: I am following this thread with great interest. I measured distances using the main halyard and believe my mast is plumb. The partners and foot hold the mast centred as far as I can tell and as long as the boat, keel and rudder are symmetrical. I continue to point higher and get better performance on a starboard tack and the boat lists a couple degrees at anchor, probably because of the battery bank located sb. There are more reasons than mast plumb that a boat performs better on one tack is my point. I noted better sb performance with all combinations of water tank and holding tank levels. I have tried for over 10 years to tune a better balance but she still sails a little better on starboard tack! Len Mitchell Crazy Legs 1989 37+ Midland On Sent from my iPad ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 1981 C 34
In 2012 or thereabouts, I listed my 1978 C 34 (with numerous expensive upgrades and relatively new rags) for $35K (US) Absolutely no interest at that price point. I later came down to $25K, and the boat eventually sold for $22.5K. The buyer got a great boat at a great price. If I were buying one today, I think $20K US is fair. -Original Message- From: Stephen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 2:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stephen Subject: Stus-List 1981 C 34 I live in Nova Scotia and have the opportunity to purchase a C 34. Assuming that the boat is in good condition with no major structural issues, what would be a reasonable price range? The pictures show a clean boat which looks like it’s been well maintained. It does have the Yanmar diesel and the current owner says the sails are in good shape. Thanks in advance for your responses. Steve McCarthy Sent from my iPad ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List 1981 C 34
I live in Nova Scotia and have the opportunity to purchase a C 34. Assuming that the boat is in good condition with no major structural issues, what would be a reasonable price range? The pictures show a clean boat which looks like it’s been well maintained. It does have the Yanmar diesel and the current owner says the sails are in good shape. Thanks in advance for your responses. Steve McCarthy Sent from my iPad ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
