Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Same happened to a friend with an old Jeep truck.  Smoked so bad he could fog 
for misquitoes.That's why I wondered if the same would be true for an old 
diesel in a boat.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL

On Sunday, September 1, 2019, 12:15:20 PM CDT, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 As an aside, in high school I had a 48 Ford with a flat head V 8.  I wanted to 
treat it good so instead of using regular 30 weight I used a nice detergent 
10-30.  The detergent cleaned the gunk out of the bearings and engine pretty 
much fell apart, blowing out so much oil that a could not see out the rear view 
mirror.

Tom BuscagliaS/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40Vashon WAP 206.463.9200C 305.409.3660

On Sep 1, 2019, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:


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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:36:28 + (UTC)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
To: C&C List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil

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I'd been told by a mechanic, that one shouldn't put 100% synthetic oil in an 
old vehicle that had been using regular oil all its life.? The claim was that 
it would clean the engine too good and it would start leaking.It's highly 
recommended for newer cars of course.I would presume the same would be true for 
marine engines, unless the fact that they're diesels would make a 
difference???Anyone else ever heard that story and have heard whether it's true 
or not?RonWild CheriC&C 30-1?STL
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

David,

If you're asking about not changing the oil AND filter at the same time,
then yes you may be able to get away with longer service intervals.  If you
are asking about changing the oil but not the filter then I would say that
that is a misrepresentation of the advice provided here.  On the other
hand, changing the filter but not the oil might be an acceptable strategy
if you knowingly have a poor quality filter but exceptional oil.  In some
circumstances there are oil filter d/p gages and changing the filter
conservatively based on d/p would be appropriate.

Josh

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 10:06 AM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Just to get a consensus...my changing the filter (oil yes of course) every
> year is an unnecessary mess then?
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2019 1:14:34 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* Tom Buscaglia 
> *Subject:* Stus-List engine oil
>
> As an aside, in high school I had a 48 Ford with a flat head V 8.  I
> wanted to treat it good so instead of using regular 30 weight I used a nice
> detergent 10-30.  The detergent cleaned the gunk out of the bearings and
> engine pretty much fell apart, blowing out so much oil that a could not see
> out the rear view mirror.
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:36:28 + (UTC)
> From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
> To: C&C List 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil
>
> Message-ID: <1270410097.716485.1567272988...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I'd been told by a mechanic, that one shouldn't put 100% synthetic oil in
> an old vehicle that had been using regular oil all its life.? The claim was
> that it would clean the engine too good and it would start leaking.It's
> highly recommended for newer cars of course.I would presume the same would
> be true for marine engines, unless the fact that they're diesels would make
> a difference???Anyone else ever heard that story and have heard whether
> it's true or not?RonWild CheriC&C 30-1?STL
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Andy,

It might be time for your mechanic to update his 
old info. It's not his father's synthetic oil on the market these days.


A simple gargle search:
http://gcocregina.ca/can-synthetic-oil-be-used-in-older-vehicles/
https://myengineneeds.com/what-synthetic-oil-is-better-for-older-cars/
https://www.gmpartsonline.net/blog/synthetic-oil-safe-older-truck


As I say, oil is the cheapest thing a yachtsman 
buys for his precious boat. Why not spend the 
extra 20 bucks a year and get the best? Think 
anchor gear... most years you don't need the best 
gear so why haul all that extra weight around?


`   Cheers, Russ


At 07:11 AM 9/2/2019, you wrote:
For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils 
and I wouldn’t think of not change the filter 
with each oil change. When I installed the new 
engine in my 40 two years ago I asked the 
mechanic about using synthetic oil and was told 
absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.


Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not 
change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in my 
40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was told 
absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.

Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:05, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Just to get a consensus...my changing the filter (oil yes of course) every 
> year is an unnecessary mess then?
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Tom Buscaglia via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 1:14:34 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
> Subject: Stus-List engine oil
>  
> As an aside, in high school I had a 48 Ford with a flat head V 8.  I wanted 
> to treat it good so instead of using regular 30 weight I used a nice 
> detergent 10-30.  The detergent cleaned the gunk out of the bearings and 
> engine pretty much fell apart, blowing out so much oil that a could not see 
> out the rear view mirror.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:36:28 + (UTC)
>> From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
>> To: C&C List 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil
>> Message-ID: <1270410097.716485.1567272988...@mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I'd been told by a mechanic, that one shouldn't put 100% synthetic oil in an 
>> old vehicle that had been using regular oil all its life.? The claim was 
>> that it would clean the engine too good and it would start leaking.It's 
>> highly recommended for newer cars of course.I would presume the same would 
>> be true for marine engines, unless the fact that they're diesels would make 
>> a difference???Anyone else ever heard that story and have heard whether it's 
>> true or not?RonWild CheriC&C 30-1?STL
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Just to get a consensus...my changing the filter (oil yes of course) every year 
is an unnecessary mess then?

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Tom Buscaglia via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 1:14:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
Subject: Stus-List engine oil

As an aside, in high school I had a 48 Ford with a flat head V 8.  I wanted to 
treat it good so instead of using regular 30 weight I used a nice detergent 
10-30.  The detergent cleaned the gunk out of the bearings and engine pretty 
much fell apart, blowing out so much oil that a could not see out the rear view 
mirror.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


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I'd been told by a mechanic, that one shouldn't put 100% synthetic oil in an 
old vehicle that had been using regular oil all its life.? The claim was that 
it would clean the engine too good and it would start leaking.It's highly 
recommended for newer cars of course.I would presume the same would be true for 
marine engines, unless the fact that they're diesels would make a 
difference???Anyone else ever heard that story and have heard whether it's true 
or not?RonWild CheriC&C 30-1?STL
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