Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Joel,

The Atomic 4 is a simple engine to work on.

In addition to Moyer, you might contact Old Lyme Marina in Connecticutt.  I
got parts from them when I was resurrecting my old AT4.

Here's what I did to resurrect it after 10 years or so of it being idled.

1.  Pulled plugs and poured a tablespoon or so of Marvel Mystery Oil down
each cylinder.
2.  Removed and cleaned sediment bowl
3.  Rebuilt carberator.  It should be a Bendix Zenith carb.  Rebuild kit
from NAPA
4.  Sprayed carb cleaner through all fuel lines
5.  Disconnected and cleaned all wiring
6.  Found start button inoperative.  Cleaned it.  Replace if necessary
7.  Replaced spark plugs and bench set timing.
8.  Closed cooling water intake seacock and cranked it until it finally
started
9.  Removed plates on either side of block and cleaned/inspected water
passages
10.  Ran engine at fast idle + and poured automatic transmission fluid into
carb

Note:  Don't do Step 10 in a crowded marina.  It generates HUGE amounts of
smoke.

The purpose of closing the seacock is to prevent water from backing up into
the cylinders if the engine doesn't start.  The combustion gases blow the
water out.  If you try to start it in your garage, this is not applicable.

My previous boat had a running AT4 when I bought it.  I installed an
electronic ignition and coil kit from Indigo.  Moyer sells one.

Sometimes AT4 ignition coils will overheat and short out internally.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 11:49 AM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> I need help with how to get it started, maintain
> And other things I don’t know about this motor
> Hopefully I don’t have to put a new motor
> You may call or text me at +19058181336
> Have a great day
>
> --
> Joel Delamirande
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Galley/Nav Drawer Parts Source

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

I would look to replace the “plastic” sides with Azek (sp??) and cut out the 
lips and ledges with a good dado saw.

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Tim Rutherford via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:50:59 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Tim Rutherford 
Subject: Stus-List Galley/Nav Drawer Parts Source


Looking for a source of the parts to repair a drawer from the Nav Station, 
specifically the plastic corner pieces that join the front to the sides.

Photos linked below:
Photo 1 - the corner piece that is not broken, I need a piece like this on the 
other 
side
Photo 2 - back 
corner
Photo 3 - drawer 
overview
Photo 4 - drawer construction 
materials

PSA - if you put too much hardware in a drawer and the boat heels in heavy 
seas, it can all slide at once and break out the front of the drawer and spill 
everything out onto the cabin sole. /end PSA

Cheers y'all. Any help you can offer is appreciated.
--
Tim Rutherford
1981 C 36-1 KCB Chamame'
DIYC - Tampa
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

There is also an Atomic 4 Facebook group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/208227399713304/

Don't forget on Moyer's site there are free 'how-to' videos (
https://moyermarine.com/video_tech-tips/) and for sale videos (
https://moyermarine.com/product-category/videosdvds/), Tech Tips (
https://moyermarine.com/techtips/) FAQs (https://moyermarine.com/faq/),
etc. as resources.

And the best thing you can do is probably order their manual (
https://moyermarine.com/product-category/manuals/)
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

None of the mods require changes in the cockpit.
I am going to second (third??) the motion to get on the Moyer forum, it is very 
informative.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

When you theses electronic upgrades
Do u have to upgrade or modifications  the panels in the cockpit

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 2:45 PM Lewis Cooke via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> First thing first, I would do a compression test to determine how good the
> motor is. The best upgrades I did where electric fuel pump, electronic
> ignition, coil, Indigo electronics thermostat kit which helps with the rear
> cylinder running cool and gumming up the valves.
>
> Lewis Cooke
> A/V For Play
> C 30-1 #45
> Lorain, OH
>
> On Feb 18, 2021 1:49 PM, "Joel Delamirande via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon sailors
>> My refit of sailboat is almost done
>> Before spring I want to get my atomic 4 fired up and ready to go,
>> presently the motor is my garage
>> I would like some guidance and help where to
>> Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, I love them and
>> appreciate there honesty
>> But need customer service or call back
>>
>> I need help with how to get it started, maintain
>> And other things I don’t know about this motor
>> Hopefully I don’t have to put a new motor
>> You may call or text me at +19058181336
>> Have a great day
>>
>> --
>> Joel Delamirande
>> *www.jdroofing.ca *
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Chances are you will not need a new motor.  This is a very simple motor and you 
could rebuild the thing with basic tools.  There are also lots of parts 
available for this engine. Moyer has a forum you could join and ask all your 
questions there.  My last boat had an A4 and I was on that group.  There are 
threads where people chronicled their rebuild in their basement! I would 
definitely start in the the moyer forums.  I have a bunch of parts laying 
around that I might be able to help you out with.  I actually have a brand new, 
never installed, electronic ignition kit.  I bought it to upgrade my engine 
but, ended up buying a moyer rebuilt that came with that already installed. 
Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:49:03 -0500

Good afternoon sailors 
My refit of sailboat is almost doneBefore spring I want to get my atomic 4 
fired up and ready to go, presently the motor is my garage I would like some 
guidance and help where to Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, 
I love them and appreciate there honesty But need customer service or call back 
I need help with how to get it started, maintainAnd other things I dont 
know about this motor Hopefully I dont have to put a new motor You may 
call or text me at +19058181336 Have a great day --
Joel Delamirandewww.jdroofing.ca Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Lewis Cooke via CnC-List]

First thing first, I would do a compression test to determine how good the
motor is. The best upgrades I did where electric fuel pump, electronic
ignition, coil, Indigo electronics thermostat kit which helps with the rear
cylinder running cool and gumming up the valves.

Lewis Cooke
A/V For Play
C 30-1 #45
Lorain, OH

On Feb 18, 2021 1:49 PM, "Joel Delamirande via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good afternoon sailors
> My refit of sailboat is almost done
> Before spring I want to get my atomic 4 fired up and ready to go,
> presently the motor is my garage
> I would like some guidance and help where to
> Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, I love them and
> appreciate there honesty
> But need customer service or call back
>
> I need help with how to get it started, maintain
> And other things I don’t know about this motor
> Hopefully I don’t have to put a new motor
> You may call or text me at +19058181336
> Have a great day
>
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Doug Robinson via CnC-List]

Joe,

I called and left you a contact, Joe Colautti services many of our 
members here in NOLSC.  Of late I have been doing mostly my own (I am a 
former Ford Model A owner), but I have used him in the past.


http://colauttimarine.com/

yr ftfl svnt etc.

Doug Robinson

On 2/18/21 1:49 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List wrote:

Good afternoon sailors
My refit of sailboat is almost done
Before spring I want to get my atomic 4 fired up and ready to go, 
presently the motor is my garage

I would like some guidance and help where to
Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, I love them and 
appreciate there honesty

But need customer service or call back

I need help with how to get it started, maintain
And other things I don’t know about this motor
Hopefully I don’t have to put a new motor
You may call or text me at +19058181336
Have a great day

--
Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *


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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Atomic 4

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Good afternoon sailors
My refit of sailboat is almost done
Before spring I want to get my atomic 4 fired up and ready to go, presently
the motor is my garage
I would like some guidance and help where to
Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, I love them and
appreciate there honesty
But need customer service or call back

I need help with how to get it started, maintain
And other things I don’t know about this motor
Hopefully I don’t have to put a new motor
You may call or text me at +19058181336
Have a great day

-- 
Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *
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Stus-List Re: Galley/Nav Drawer Parts Source

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

You can probably make something that will work out of a block of wood.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:51 AM Tim Rutherford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looking for a source of the parts to repair a drawer from the Nav Station,
> specifically the plastic corner pieces that join the front to the sides.
>
> Photos linked below:
> Photo 1 - the corner piece that is not broken, I need a piece like this on
> the other side
> 
> Photo 2 - back corner
> 
> Photo 3 - drawer overview
> 
> Photo 4 - drawer construction materials
> 
>
> PSA - if you put too much hardware in a drawer and the boat heels in heavy
> seas, it can all slide at once and break out the front of the drawer and
> spill everything out onto the cabin sole. /end PSA
>
> Cheers y'all. Any help you can offer is appreciated.
> --
> Tim Rutherford
> 1981 C 36-1 KCB Chamame'
> DIYC - Tampa
> tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --
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>  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Galley/Nav Drawer Parts Source

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Try Lee Valley woodworking catalog.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 18, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Tim Rutherford via CnC-List 
 wrote:



Looking for a source of the parts to repair a drawer from the Nav Station, 
specifically the plastic corner pieces that join the front to the sides.

Photos linked below:
Photo 1 - the corner piece that is not broken, I need a piece like this on the 
other 
side
Photo 2 - back 
corner
Photo 3 - drawer 
overview
Photo 4 - drawer construction 
materials

PSA - if you put too much hardware in a drawer and the boat heels in heavy 
seas, it can all slide at once and break out the front of the drawer and spill 
everything out onto the cabin sole. /end PSA

Cheers y'all. Any help you can offer is appreciated.
--
Tim Rutherford
1981 C 36-1 KCB Chamame'
DIYC - Tampa
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Galley/Nav Drawer Parts Source

[Tim Rutherford via CnC-List]

Looking for a source of the parts to repair a drawer from the Nav Station,
specifically the plastic corner pieces that join the front to the sides.

Photos linked below:
Photo 1 - the corner piece that is not broken, I need a piece like this on
the other side

Photo 2 - back corner

Photo 3 - drawer overview

Photo 4 - drawer construction materials


PSA - if you put too much hardware in a drawer and the boat heels in heavy
seas, it can all slide at once and break out the front of the drawer and
spill everything out onto the cabin sole. /end PSA

Cheers y'all. Any help you can offer is appreciated.
--
Tim Rutherford
1981 C 36-1 KCB Chamame'
DIYC - Tampa
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
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Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Yes!

I don’t understand why you would drill out a hole oversize, and lose the 
strength and structure the fiberglass provides, leaving just some epoxy only 
held on by a thin bond attached to the edge.  It isn’t that hard to pick out 
the balsa with a pick, or Allen key like Dave suggests. Granted, you may have 
backing plates going past the edges, but it still doesn’t seem right to remove 
good fiberglass structure.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Dave S via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:04 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Hoyt, Mike; Dave S
Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck

 

 another trick to removing core is using a ground down Allen key chucked in a 
drill, working from above. 

 

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2019/07/deck-fill-core-removal-and-reinforcement.html?m=1

 

To keep the epoxy in place make sure you use lots of colloidal silica in the 
mix.

 

Dave 

Windstar 33-2

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Put tape on the underside to cover the holes before filling with thickened 
epoxy.  Then once cured drill appropriate sized hole in the epoxy for the 
fastener.

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List  
Sent: February 16, 2021 7:26 PM
To: Matthew via CnC-List 
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker 
Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck

 

Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place until you can put some 
tape under the glob?

Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL

 

 

On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 01:31:10 PM CST, Matthew via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

 

 

Regarding Dennis’ comment about overbored holes being hidden by the track, a 
trick I like to use is to drill up from underneath and stop when the bit 
encounters the underside of the deck.  The result is that the hole on the deck 
surface stays the same size.  In addition, you know precisely where to place 
the deck fitting and drill the new hole.

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