Stus-List Re: C 40

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm up for a free 40. Boat or scotch, I'm good either way.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 14:30, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Speaking of C 40's, I was down at our club today hanging out on Alera,
> under the winter cover that still has to come off.  As I walked the docks I
> saw that there is a 40 there that has been neglected.  I checked and
> according to the registration sticker on it, it looks like has not been
> used since 2017.  I called the club dock-master and apparently the owner is
> on notice to vacate the slip by the end of this month as the club requires
> boats to be both properly maintained and used.  This is neither.
>
> I reached out to the owner but have not heard back yet. Not sure of the
> year but from the cut of the ports I suspect it is from the late 80s.  If
> anyone in the PNW or anywhere else with the will to relocate the boat is
> interested, I'll see what the deal is the let everyone know.  I think it
> would be an awesome deal for someone.  Maybe even a freebee! (Yes Dave, I'm
> thinking of you and Dave).
>
>  Tom B
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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Stus-List Re: water tanks interconnected, or not?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

My 38 also has a tank under the port and starboard settees. Each of the
tanks has a shutoff valve at the outlet. The two drain hoses meet at a T
under the floorboards, and from this T is the line to the pressure pump.

 

Curiously, there is also a shutoff valve on each side of the T. I could see
no good purpose for the second shutoff in each supply line (unless it was
there to stop all the water from leaking out through a broken line), so I
left them in place when I replaced the hoses a while back.

 

Maybe you have an arrangement like this one?

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 7:14 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com; Adam Hayden 
Subject: Stus-List Re: water tanks interconnected, or not?

 

Peter

Very interesting.  I have the same issue except my port tank drains and the
Starboard tank does not.

Drives me crazy.  

Adam c 36

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.

 

  _  

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 3:55:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com 
mailto:petemcm...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List water tanks interconnected, or not? 

 

I have a 30gal water tank under both settees. The valves for each are set to
open flow. However, the pump seems to draw only from the starboard side. I'd
assumed that with both valves open, the tanks would equalize, but the stbd
tank empties and the pump goes dry, while the port tank remains full. Can
someone venture to what's going on? I've read this 2015 discussion
 , but the
OP then was interested in disconnecting the two tanks. I'll do some
exploring tomorrow to see what might be preventing the tanks from
equalizing. Ideas are welcome.

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Stus-List Re: Mast Base Blocks

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

The Garhauer versions work really well… at about half the cost of Harken. 

 

All the hardware on Imzadi, and everything except the traveler on Belle, is 
Garhauer. I’m a big fan.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:24 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Mast Base Blocks

 

Those stand-up springs Harken sells do a pretty good job of keeping them from 
banging around.

Bill Coleman

 

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 8:38 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello Again,

 

So, I'm considering replacing all the blocks for the mast base.  I currently 
have 3 for halyards, 1 for mainsheet, 1 for boom furling line and 1 for center 
board.

 

I'm was considering Schafer stainless because they look great but, I'm now 
thinking, some kind of plastics would be better for when they fall against the 
new paint.

 

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations about brands, quality vs cost, 
etc...  

 

All my existing blocks are pretty old and I'm sure, aren't as friction free as 
they should be.  I've kept the old deck organizers and I'm planning on 
replacing the sheaves.  I've got the new mast sheaves on the way.  I ordered 
them From Zephyrworks. I may have them do the deck organizer Sheaves too.  He 
said he could rebuild any block too.  I think I'm going to have him rebuild the 
1 Schaefer exit block I needs to be replaced.

 

 

Thanks again,

Danny

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Stus-List Re: More Google Problems

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Oops.

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> I’ve found that a lot more messages land in my Gmail in box if I move a
> few from my junk mail to in mail.
> Maybe their algorithm re-thinks what’s good mail.
>
> I believe I created the problem when I accidentally hit junk mail instead
> of trash with several CNC list emails.
> Suddenly virtually all list mail went to junk.
>
> Fred Hazzard
>
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Stus-List Re: Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Thanks Dave.  Yes that is correct.  Grenadine currently has separate 
through-hulls for depth transducer and speed transducer, to port and starboard 
respectively, aft of the keel and outboard by a foot or so.  My new system has 
a single DST transducer which the manufacturer recommends go through the hull 
forward of the keel and where the deadrise isn’t steep.  The correct long-term 
solution would be to glass in the current two transducer through-hulls, and cut 
a new one in the correct location for the new DST transducer.  If the new 
transducer insert will fit in one of the current through-hulls, then I have 
options.  If not I have no choice but to cut a new hole, and I can wait to 
remove the current transducer and glass over their holes.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 4:58 AM, Dave S  wrote:
> 
> If I get the math you are going from two through hulls to one - I did the 
> same and removed my overboard discharge at the same time.  
> 
> Why not eliminate the unused holes?  It needs to be done properly for sure 
> but it’s not difficult.  
> 
> Some pics here:
> 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/08/repair-of-keelhull-joint-closing.html?m=1
>  
> 
> 
> Dave 
> 33-2
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 2:38 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a 
>> new instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which 
>> goes through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing 
>> through-hull hole (for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.  
>> The manufacturer of my new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of 
>> the keel, whereas my current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.  
>> On the other hand I’d like to not cut new holes through my hull if not 
>> absolutely necessary.  What say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all 
>> recommend for bedding a through-hull?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Re: More Google Problems

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

I’ve found that a lot more messages land in my Gmail in box if I move a few 
from my junk mail to in mail.
Maybe their algorithm re-thinks what’s good mail. 

I believe I created the problem when I accidentally hit junk mail instead of 
trash with several CNC list emails. 
Suddenly virtually all list mail went to junk. 

Fred Hazzard 
S/ V Fury
C 44
Portland Or 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> Google has initiated some nonsense spam filters that has affected a lot of 
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>  
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> it.
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Stus-List Re: C 40 offer

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

What mk1 30 with complete refit go for

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:15 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
wrote:

> C mk I should go for $10-25,000, depending on condition and extras. We
> have two fleets of them, in Detroit and Sarnia, totaling 20ish.
>
> Bob
> Mystic, '71 35 mk 1
>
> On 03/23/2021 11:35 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> We are going to put an offer in. They agreed to through in a 10 foot Avon
> RIB and outboard for a “strong offer”. Should I even bother with lowballing
> at this point? The dinghy and engine would sell for quite a bit unless they
> are beat to crap. The outfit selling this boat seems to keep their stuff in
> top shape, so I doubt it. It is a 2007 boat with an 8 HP Yamaha. That will
> probably get swapped for my 15 when we get home 
>
> I have no real feel for what old boats sell for now. Sadly it seems a
> chore to even give away a C 35, they seem to have aged out of the market.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: C 40 offer

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

C mk I should go for $10-25,000, depending on condition and extras. We have 
two fleets of them, in Detroit and Sarnia, totaling 20ish.

Bob
Mystic, '71 35 mk 1

> On 03/23/2021 11:35 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> We are going to put an offer in. They agreed to through in a 10 foot Avon 
> RIB and outboard for a “strong offer”. Should I even bother with lowballing 
> at this point? The dinghy and engine would sell for quite a bit unless they 
> are beat to crap. The outfit selling this boat seems to keep their stuff in 
> top shape, so I doubt it. It is a 2007 boat with an 8 HP Yamaha. That will 
> probably get swapped for my 15 when we get home 
> 
> I have no real feel for what old boats sell for now. Sadly it seems a 
> chore to even give away a C 35, they seem to have aged out of the market.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> 
> Kent Island MD USA
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Stus-List More Google Problems

[Stu via CnC-List]

Google has initiated some nonsense spam filters that has affected a lot of 
members.  According to our provider, they are running all industry standards 
for emails.  But Google does not agree and you have to fight through the 
settings to stop our list emails from going to your spam folder.

If your are still experiencing Gmail problems – check out this site:   
https://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/

Then when you get it fixed, Google has sent out an update that crashes apps on 
your Android Phone.  But they claim to have a fix but you have to install it.

Have a look at the latest:  
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/google-fixes-issue-causing-android-apps-to-crash-1.5358462

Just another day in cyberspace

Stay safe & healthy

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Stus-List Re: C 40 offer

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

IMHO a 14 year old RIB isn't worth much.  If Hypalon it might be worth
$1000 to $1,500.

Joel


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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:36 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We are going to put an offer in. They agreed to through in a 10 foot Avon
> RIB and outboard for a “strong offer”. Should I even bother with lowballing
> at this point? The dinghy and engine would sell for quite a bit unless they
> are beat to crap. The outfit selling this boat seems to keep their stuff in
> top shape, so I doubt it. It is a 2007 boat with an 8 HP Yamaha. That will
> probably get swapped for my 15 when we get home 
>
> I have no real feel for what old boats sell for now. Sadly it seems a
> chore to even give away a C 35, they seem to have aged out of the market.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: C 40 offer

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Joe,

Contact me off list @ “n...@sjyachts.com”.  I can give you prices boats are 
selling for on Yacht World (not what they listed for).

No charge, just speak nicely of me .

Neil Andersen
1982 C 32 FoxFire

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:35:30 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
Subject: Stus-List C 40 offer


We are going to put an offer in. They agreed to through in a 10 foot Avon RIB 
and outboard for a “strong offer”. Should I even bother with lowballing at this 
point? The dinghy and engine would sell for quite a bit unless they are beat to 
crap. The outfit selling this boat seems to keep their stuff in top shape, so I 
doubt it. It is a 2007 boat with an 8 HP Yamaha. That will probably get swapped 
for my 15 when we get home 

I have no real feel for what old boats sell for now. Sadly it seems a chore to 
even give away a C 35, they seem to have aged out of the market.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA




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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

I did the ICW returning my boat from CRW in 2019.(Charleston to Beaufort+) 
While things may have changed for the better now, I found it not a matter of if 
I run aground but when and how often:
Ran hard aground in the middle of the channel just north of the last bridge 
before Charleston. (The local TowboatUS referred to it as his 'honey hole'.)
Also skimmed the bottom near a few inlets where the official advice is that 
because of constant shoaling, tidal currents, etc. the markers are more like 
suggestions! 
In addition, I misread a local dredge's floating marks (and failed to reach him 
on his working channel) and ran hard aground again, waiting ~ 3 hours for the 
tide and TowboatUS to float us free.
I was not paying much attention to the local tides but I would be astonished if 
an 8 ft draft boat could do this portion of the ICW without running aground 
hard and often!
I have done few off-shore runs but after this ICW experience, I am not sure 
which would be more nerve-wracking--facing the real ocean or the so-called ICW!
Charlie Nelson1995 C 36 XL/kcbWater Phantom(draft ~ 5' with board up)

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On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:32 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Good to know!  If only there was a deep water inlet between the two!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:59 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I've carried 8’ from Beaufort, NC to Norfolk several times recently. Farther 
South might be a challenge.Andy

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Mar 22, 2021, at 11:41, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
wrote:


I'd be more worried about water draft than air draft in the ICW with a fixed 
keel boat.
Andy, I know its a tough job ...  Besides, too cold to sail in Newport.
Joel
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:36 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I think the tall rig on the 40 is fine for the ICW. I loved that boat. She gave 
me few excuses to use the engine, even in light airs if I looked at her 
sideways she was doing 5 knots. And she'd point like Babe Ruth predicting a 
home run. Heading home from Cuttyhunk was always lovely; we'd head down the 
rhumb line for R2A with sheets just a little eased and we'd watch all the 
Benecatahunts fade off to leeward into the Sakonnet River and eventually start 
motoring. The 40 combines performance and beauty to an extent not seen on many 
other boats. It’s my favorite C!
Andy(Stuck in the Bahamas with clients far away from my own boat)

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Mar 22, 2021, at 10:47, Robert Boyer via CnC-List  
wrote:


Tall rigs will give you fits if you ever travel down the ICW.
Bob

Bob Boyers/v Rainy DaysC Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)(Spending winters in warm 
places, and summers on the Chesapeake Bay)blog: dainyrays.blogspot.comemail: 
dainyr...@icloud.com




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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Well, I can tell ya, you want to be careful coming into the canal from the west 
side. Locals coming out told us to favor the North side.  Big mistake. I think 
the shoaling changes a lot, and were I to do it again, I would stay in the 
middle, and go very slow . . .

Took TowBoat an hour and half to wrestle us off, in an ebbing tide, not the 
highlight of the trip.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 



 

Hi Joe, 

What's your air draft?  Mine is 54' 

  

You can't overcome physics.   I've done the Cape May canal bridges many times.  
There are two bridges over it and a railway swing bridge that remains open 
cause it's broke.  Sources list Cape May Parkway and Seashore Rd bridge height 
at 50' or 52.5' and there is a graduated table at the base of the bridge.  The 
water level shows the actual clearance.  The tidal range is 4.5' in this area 
and I would time my trips so the tide is low or close to it and find 57+ feet 
at the bridge.  This works the best for climbing the Delaware River.  When 
motoring at 6 knots hullspeed, the favorable current gave me 8.4 knots Speed 
Over Ground on GPS. 

  

There is another challenge to running the canal at low water; running aground.  
The bottom is muddy, so backing out or spinning usually get you clear.  Keep 
your speed low so you The ferries really kick up the sand where they dock and 
it forms a sandbar on the opposite side of the channel.  So favor the side 
where the ferries dock.  Be mindful, if they blast their horn, they are backing 
out, so U-turn and hold off till one leaves.

  

Note: Heading West, the tide can give a boost for eight hours or more.  It's 
like riding a wave that's travelling West (turn of the Earth).   I've had a 
favorable tide the whole way from Cape May to the C Canal.  Heading the 
opposite direction the tide is favorable for less time, like four hours, 
because you're travelling East and the wave passes under you in the opposite 
direction.  Sucks but true.  Heading that way, I would consult Reed's and use 
math to leave the C so I would arrive at Cape May at low tide or just after 
it to use the canal.  If I arrive more than two hours before Low, I wait.  If 
it's more than two hours after low, I go around.  There is a channel along the 
beach but I'm not sure if it's marked.  Hopefully others will chime in. 

  

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md 

  

  

 

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[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

We are going to put an offer in. They agreed to through in a 10 foot Avon RIB 
and outboard for a “strong offer”. Should I even bother with lowballing at this 
point? The dinghy and engine would sell for quite a bit unless they are beat to 
crap. The outfit selling this boat seems to keep their stuff in top shape, so I 
doubt it. It is a 2007 boat with an 8 HP Yamaha. That will probably get swapped 
for my 15 when we get home 

I have no real feel for what old boats sell for now. Sadly it seems a chore to 
even give away a C 35, they seem to have aged out of the market.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

FYI

Cruising the Cheaspeake 4th edition by William H. Shellenberger has a chart on 
page 132 that lists clearances for both the north and south spans of the bridge 
by pier number.

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Get yourself a 55 gallon plastic drum and fill it with water.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:21 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

 

I think the C 40 is either 55 or 57 feet air draft plus lights and antenna, 
so the Cape May channel looks like a NO-GO.

 

Joe

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I think the C 40 is either 55 or 57 feet air draft plus lights and antenna, 
so the Cape May channel looks like a NO-GO.

 

Joe

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

CBRYA used to have a sheet with clearance under the various sections. You have 
to be careful of the various construction projects and moorings that are in 
various spots. Some of the moorings have cables about 1,000 feet long to the 
barges.

Joe

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

 

The charts only show air draft for the center span of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge 
(160 feet or so).  There are no clearance boards on the other spans.  Its a PIA 
if there is a lot of commercial traffic because everyone uses the center span.  
I probably could fit under 10 or more spans, but I'll only try a couple.  When 
I pass under a bridge I have no depth perception.

 

Joel

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

In related news, the clearance under power lines is highest near the poles and 
they can sag in the middle in hot weather. 

Joe

Coquina

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 10:57 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

 

I take the NOAA charted clearances with more than a grain of salt.  We tend to 
think of bridges as wonderful fixed construction projects.  However, many older 
bridges may have subsided and have less than stated clearances.  

 

I tend to trust the clearance boards but add a safety factor.

 

FYI, some bridges have more clearance a span or two out of the channel.  For 
instance, according to local "knowledge", the bridge at Navarre Beach, FL has a 
foot or two more clearance two spans south of the charted channel.  This is due 
to the design of the bridge.  The metal girders supporting the roadway in the 
three center spans are several feet thick because the spans are wide.  Away 
from the charted channel, the spans are short.  Those spans are supported by 
shorter concrete T girders. The shorter girders allow more clearance.

 

Passing under a bridge outside the charted channel incurs risk.  You really 
don't know what the air clearance is and you don't know if there's good depth.  
I've never done it.

  -- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:24 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts list 
them as 55’ at high water.

Andy

Andrew Burton

 

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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

The charts only show air draft for the center span of the Chesapeake Bay
Bridge (160 feet or so).  There are no clearance boards on the other
spans.  Its a PIA if there is a lot of commercial traffic because everyone
uses the center span.  I probably could fit under 10 or more spans, but
I'll only try a couple.  When I pass under a bridge I have no depth
perception.

Joel


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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:58 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I take the NOAA charted clearances with more than a grain of salt.  We
> tend to think of bridges as wonderful fixed construction projects.
> However, many older bridges may have subsided and have less than stated
> clearances.
>
> I tend to trust the clearance boards but add a safety factor.
>
> FYI, some bridges have more clearance a span or two out of the channel.
> For instance, according to local "knowledge", the bridge at Navarre Beach,
> FL has a foot or two more clearance two spans south of the charted
> channel.  This is due to the design of the bridge.  The metal girders
> supporting the roadway in the three center spans are several feet thick
> because the spans are wide.  Away from the charted channel, the spans are
> short.  Those spans are supported by shorter concrete T girders. The
> shorter girders allow more clearance.
>
> Passing under a bridge outside the charted channel incurs risk.  You
> really don't know what the air clearance is and you don't know if there's
> good depth.  I've never done it.
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:24 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts
>> list them as 55’ at high water.
>> Andy
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>>
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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I take the NOAA charted clearances with more than a grain of salt.  We tend
to think of bridges as wonderful fixed construction projects.  However,
many older bridges may have subsided and have less than stated clearances.

I tend to trust the clearance boards but add a safety factor.

FYI, some bridges have more clearance a span or two out of the channel.
For instance, according to local "knowledge", the bridge at Navarre Beach,
FL has a foot or two more clearance two spans south of the charted
channel.  This is due to the design of the bridge.  The metal girders
supporting the roadway in the three center spans are several feet thick
because the spans are wide.  Away from the charted channel, the spans are
short.  Those spans are supported by shorter concrete T girders. The
shorter girders allow more clearance.

Passing under a bridge outside the charted channel incurs risk.  You really
don't know what the air clearance is and you don't know if there's good
depth.  I've never done it.
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts
> list them as 55’ at high water.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hey Andrew,
I checked my old NOAA chart and you're right.  My bad.
55' is listed on NOAA charts. 

Quick google searches showed 50' and 52.5'.   That sounded reasonable if Joe's 
VHF antenna hit the bridge.  

Chuck



> On 03/23/2021 10:23 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts 
> list them as 55’ at high water.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
>  
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:12, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Hi Joe,
> > What's your air draft?  Mine is 54'
> >  
> > You can't overcome physics.   I've done the Cape May canal bridges 
> > many times.  There are two bridges over it and a railway swing bridge that 
> > remains open cause it's broke.  Sources list Cape May Parkway and Seashore 
> > Rd bridge height at 50' or 52.5' and there is a graduated table at the base 
> > of the bridge.  The water level shows the actual clearance.  The tidal 
> > range is 4.5' in this area and I would time my trips so the tide is low or 
> > close to it and find 57+ feet at the bridge.  This works the best for 
> > climbing the Delaware River.  When motoring at 6 knots hullspeed, the 
> > favorable current gave me 8.4 knots Speed Over Ground on GPS.
> >  
> > There is another challenge to running the canal at low water; 
> > running aground.  The bottom is muddy, so backing out or spinning usually 
> > get you clear.  Keep your speed low so you The ferries really kick up the 
> > sand where they dock and it forms a sandbar on the opposite side of the 
> > channel.  So favor the side where the ferries dock.  Be mindful, if they 
> > blast their horn, they are backing out, so U-turn and hold off till one 
> > leaves.   
> >  
> > Note: Heading West, the tide can give a boost for eight hours or 
> > more.  It's like riding a wave that's travelling West (turn of the Earth).  
> >  I've had a favorable tide the whole way from Cape May to the C Canal.  
> > Heading the opposite direction the tide is favorable for less time, like 
> > four hours, because you're travelling East and the wave passes under you in 
> > the opposite direction.  Sucks but true.  Heading that way, I would consult 
> > Reed's and use math to leave the C so I would arrive at Cape May at low 
> > tide or just after it to use the canal.  If I arrive more than two hours 
> > before Low, I wait.  If it's more than two hours after low, I go around.  
> > There is a channel along the beach but I'm not sure if it's marked.  
> > Hopefully others will chime in.
> >  
> >  
> > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md
> > 
> > > > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with 
> > > my VHF antenna going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have 
> > > been a bad time for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going 
> > > ting-ting-ting across the girders up there.
> > > 
> > > There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is 
> > > a bit low and I think the marina near there will come out and hook a big 
> > > weight to your halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > Coquina
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
> > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc: G Donald Wagner  > > mailto:don.wag...@verizon.net >
> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 
> > > 10" with the board down, according to the data brochure.
> > > 
> > > I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the 
> > > Brochure.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per 
> > > the brochure. I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not 
> > > allowing for the Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
> > > 
> > > The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you 
> > > believe the corps of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  
> > > Of course, near Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often 
> > > stated to be 55" , will be a problem!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Just my .02 cents worth
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Don Wagner
> > > 
> > > 

Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts list 
them as 55’ at high water.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:12, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> What's your air draft?  Mine is 54'
>  
> You can't overcome physics.   I've done the Cape May canal bridges many 
> times.  There are two bridges over it and a railway swing bridge that remains 
> open cause it's broke.  Sources list Cape May Parkway and Seashore Rd bridge 
> height at 50' or 52.5' and there is a graduated table at the base of the 
> bridge.  The water level shows the actual clearance.  The tidal range is 4.5' 
> in this area and I would time my trips so the tide is low or close to it and 
> find 57+ feet at the bridge.  This works the best for climbing the Delaware 
> River.  When motoring at 6 knots hullspeed, the favorable current gave me 8.4 
> knots Speed Over Ground on GPS.
>  
> There is another challenge to running the canal at low water; running 
> aground.  The bottom is muddy, so backing out or spinning usually get you 
> clear.  Keep your speed low so you The ferries really kick up the sand where 
> they dock and it forms a sandbar on the opposite side of the channel.  So 
> favor the side where the ferries dock.  Be mindful, if they blast their horn, 
> they are backing out, so U-turn and hold off till one leaves.   
>  
> Note: Heading West, the tide can give a boost for eight hours or more.  It's 
> like riding a wave that's travelling West (turn of the Earth).   I've had a 
> favorable tide the whole way from Cape May to the C Canal.  Heading the 
> opposite direction the tide is favorable for less time, like four hours, 
> because you're travelling East and the wave passes under you in the opposite 
> direction.  Sucks but true.  Heading that way, I would consult Reed's and use 
> math to leave the C so I would arrive at Cape May at low tide or just after 
> it to use the canal.  If I arrive more than two hours before Low, I wait.  If 
> it's more than two hours after low, I go around.  There is a channel along 
> the beach but I'm not sure if it's marked.  Hopefully others will chime in.
>  
>  
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md
>>  
>>  
>> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
>> going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time 
>> for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across 
>> the girders up there.
>> 
>> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
>> think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
>> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
>> board down, according to the data brochure.
>> 
>> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
>> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the 
>> Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
>> 
>> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps 
>> of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near 
>> Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , 
>> will be a problem!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just my .02 cents worth
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don Wagner
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Der Baron 
>> 
>> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Joe,
What's your air draft?  Mine is 54'

You can't overcome physics.   I've done the Cape May canal bridges many times.  
There are two bridges over it and a railway swing bridge that remains open 
cause it's broke.  Sources list Cape May Parkway and Seashore Rd bridge height 
at 50' or 52.5' and there is a graduated table at the base of the bridge.  The 
water level shows the actual clearance.  The tidal range is 4.5' in this area 
and I would time my trips so the tide is low or close to it and find 57+ feet 
at the bridge.  This works the best for climbing the Delaware River.  When 
motoring at 6 knots hullspeed, the favorable current gave me 8.4 knots Speed 
Over Ground on GPS.

There is another challenge to running the canal at low water; running aground.  
The bottom is muddy, so backing out or spinning usually get you clear.  Keep 
your speed low so you The ferries really kick up the sand where they dock and 
it forms a sandbar on the opposite side of the channel.  So favor the side 
where the ferries dock.  Be mindful, if they blast their horn, they are backing 
out, so U-turn and hold off till one leaves.   

Note: Heading West, the tide can give a boost for eight hours or more.  It's 
like riding a wave that's travelling West (turn of the Earth).   I've had a 
favorable tide the whole way from Cape May to the C Canal.  Heading the 
opposite direction the tide is favorable for less time, like four hours, 
because you're travelling East and the wave passes under you in the opposite 
direction.  Sucks but true.  Heading that way, I would consult Reed's and use 
math to leave the C so I would arrive at Cape May at low tide or just after 
it to use the canal.  If I arrive more than two hours before Low, I wait.  If 
it's more than two hours after low, I go around.  There is a channel along the 
beach but I'm not sure if it's marked.  Hopefully others will chime in.


Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md

>  
>  
> 
> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF 
> antenna going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad 
> time for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting 
> across the girders up there.
> 
> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low 
> and I think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
> 
>  
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
>  
> 
> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
> 
>  
> 
> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with 
> the board down, according to the data brochure.
> 
> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
> 
>  
> 
> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the Windex 
> or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
> 
> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the 
> corps of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near 
> Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , 
> will be a problem!
> 
>  
> 
> Just my .02 cents worth
> 
>  
> 
> Don Wagner
> 
> C
> 
> Der Baron 
> 
> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
> 
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Don’t forget our Wednesday night rendezvous is tomorrow night -
Mar 24, 2021 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) 

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Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Back in the day we would run aground at low tide and the antenna whacked the 
bridge at high tide.

I am assuming the 40 won’t be going under that bridge.

Joe

Coquina

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:51 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

 

My 35/3 cleared the Cape May bridge, but the tide was not high.  It was close.

 


 

 

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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time for 
a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across the 
girders up there.

There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your halyard 
to heel the boat over to get under it.

 

Joe

Coquina

 

From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: G Donald Wagner mailto:don.wag...@verizon.net> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40

 

My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
board down, according to the data brochure. 

I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.

 

On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. I've 
never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the Windex or the 
Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 

The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps of 
Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near Miami and 
on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , will be a 
problem!

 

Just my .02 cents worth

 

Don Wagner

C

Der Baron 

on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay

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Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

As a regular cruising going up and down the ICW not all bridges have 65 foot 
clearance—some as low as 62 or 63 feet.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in warm places, and summers on the Chesapeake Bay)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
> going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time 
> for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across 
> the girders up there.
> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
> think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>  
> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
> board down, according to the data brochure.
> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>  
> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the Windex 
> or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps 
> of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near Miami 
> and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , will be a 
> problem!
>  
> Just my .02 cents worth
>  
> Don Wagner
> C
> Der Baron 
> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
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Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I did the entire ICW from Norfolk to Ft Lauderdale in November. Some of the 
supposed 65’ bridges only showed 62’ on the gauges. The one in C May is a 55’ 
clearance at high tide, I believe. That canal is a nice short cut rather than 
going out and around the cape. In case anyone is curious, I take the passage 
between the shoals marked on the charts as Cape May Channel. Lots of water, but 
you want to be right on top of your navigation for and hour or so!
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 08:51, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My 35/3 cleared the Cape May bridge, but the tide was not high.  It was close.
> 
>   Virus-free. www.avg.com
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
>> going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time 
>> for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across 
>> the girders up there.
>> 
>> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
>> think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
>> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
>> board down, according to the data brochure.
>> 
>> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
>> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the 
>> Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
>> 
>> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps 
>> of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near 
>> Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , 
>> will be a problem!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just my .02 cents worth
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don Wagner
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Der Baron 
>> 
>> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

My 35/3 cleared the Cape May bridge, but the tide was not high.  It was
close.


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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF
> antenna going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a
> bad time for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going
> ting-ting-ting across the girders up there.
>
> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and
> I think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your
> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* G Donald Wagner via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* G Donald Wagner 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>
>
>
> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the
> board down, according to the data brochure.
>
> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>
>
>
> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure.
> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the
> Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument.
>
> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the
> corps of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course,
> near Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be
> 55" , will be a problem!
>
>
>
> Just my .02 cents worth
>
>
>
> Don Wagner
>
> C
>
> Der Baron
>
> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
>
> d to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your
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Stus-List HappyBuy diesel heater

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

I purchased on e of the Chinese made copies of the Espar heater.  It is the 5KW 
version.  Next step is to figure out where to install it.

Persistence has basically the identical layout to a C 33-2.  Have any 33-2 
owners installed one of these and if so where?

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
1987 Frers 33 #16
www.hoytsailing.com

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Stus-List Now bridge clearance

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time for 
a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across the 
girders up there.
There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your halyard 
to heel the boat over to get under it.

Joe
Coquina

From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: G Donald Wagner 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40

My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
board down, according to the data brochure.
I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.

On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. I've 
never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the Windex or the 
Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument.
The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps of 
Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near Miami and 
on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , will be a 
problem!

Just my .02 cents worth

Don Wagner
C
Der Baron
on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
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Stus-List Re: Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Randy,

Touche's speed transducer is located under the step for the V-berth forward
of the keel.  Really.  I have to reach through an inspection port to remove
it.  I wanted it well forward in undisturbed flow.

Personally, I'd drill a new hole forward of the keel and fill the old one.
4200 or 5200 works.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:38 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a
> new instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which
> goes through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing
> through-hull hole (for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.
> The manufacturer of my new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of
> the keel, whereas my current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.
> On the other hand I’d like to not cut new holes through my hull if not
> absolutely necessary.  What say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all
> recommend for bedding a through-hull?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

I installed the transducer for my Raymarine depth sounder inside the hull.
Cleaned the surface and used silicone sealant to attach. Works fine to
depths of 200 feet

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:38 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a
> new instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which
> goes through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing
> through-hull hole (for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.
> The manufacturer of my new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of
> the keel, whereas my current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.
> On the other hand I’d like to not cut new holes through my hull if not
> absolutely necessary.  What say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all
> recommend for bedding a through-hull?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Re: Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

If I get the math you are going from two through hulls to one - I did the same 
and removed my overboard discharge at the same time.  

Why not eliminate the unused holes?  It needs to be done properly for sure but 
it’s not difficult.  

Some pics here:

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/08/repair-of-keelhull-joint-closing.html?m=1

Dave 
33-2

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 2:38 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a new 
> instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which goes 
> through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing through-hull 
> hole (for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.  The manufacturer 
> of my new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of the keel, whereas 
> my current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.  On the other hand 
> I’d like to not cut new holes through my hull if not absolutely necessary.  
> What say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all recommend for bedding a 
> through-hull?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Re: Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List]

Fwiw, I replaced 2 thru hulls start of last season and in one installed a
DST 800 and used 3m 4200 fast cure and it seems to have worked well.

I had a question about the they thru hull and found the customer support at
Gemeco to be very good, they might be able to comment on the they hull
placement. My guess is if aft the water flow may not be best for speed?

https://www.gemeco.com/transducer-detail.php?transducer=DST800

Best regards,

Lisle

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:38 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a
> new instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which
> goes through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing
> through-hull hole (for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.
> The manufacturer of my new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of
> the keel, whereas my current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.
> On the other hand I’d like to not cut new holes through my hull if not
> absolutely necessary.  What say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all
> recommend for bedding a through-hull?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Reuse Through-Hull or Cut New?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Listers,

I appeal to your collective wisdom here.  Over the offseason I acquired a new 
instrument system for Grenadine, including a new DST transducer which goes 
through the hull.  I’m debating whether to reuse an existing through-hull hole 
(for the old speed or depth sensor), or cut a new one.  The manufacturer of my 
new DST transducer recommends locating it forward of the keel, whereas my 
current transducer through-hulls are aft of the keel.  On the other hand I’d 
like to not cut new holes through my hull if not absolutely necessary.  What 
say you?  Also, what kind of sealant do y’all recommend for bedding a 
through-hull?

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO
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