Stus-List Re: handrail

[James Hesketh via CnC-List]


>>
>> Hi Dwight, do you remember what kind of screw head it was? I tried to
>> look through the deep small hole, couldn’t see it clearly...tried all kinds
>> of screwdriver and could not get it to work.
>>
>>
Although a Phillips Head or other "fancy" screw is easier to turn with a
driver than a conventional slotted head; in a place where a screw may
sometime eventually need loosening, and has a likelihood of getting wood,
calking, glue, or dirt into it, a slotted head is always easier to clean
out than the others.

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
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Stus-List Re: handrail

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Ditto. The square head driver

Bill

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 4:20 PM John Irvin via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Mine (27-III) werebRobertsons
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:02 PM, General Gao via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Dwight, do you remember what kind of screw head it was? I tried to look
> through the deep small hole, couldn’t see it clearly...tried all kinds of
> screwdriver and could not get it to work.
>
> Bo
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1974 35 MKii. There are 2 additional brass screws in each leg.
>> Some will break because they probably have dealloyed. I did this exact job
>> about 10 years ago. Still good
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:26 AM General Gao via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thx everyone for chiming in!
>>>
>>> My apologies I had thought I added my boat model in my signature, mine
>>> is a 1974 C 35 Mk2.
>>>
>>> I would agree with you, it would be extremely unlikely that there was no
>>> wood screw used; besides, who would put through holes on the cabin if they
>>> did not intend to use screws to fasten the handrail from inside? I used
>>> flashlight, and I also used screw driver to poke inside the holes, I
>>> couldn't find anything. I will try again today.
>>>
>>> But if anyone had worked on the same model of boat, I'd appreciate some
>>> kind of confirmation.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bo
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> 1974 C 35 MK2
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I think there is a set screw at the pedestal (I think on the forward side). 
Pretty hard to get to it.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa On


 Original message 
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Date: 2021-04-17 16:04 (GMT-05:00)
To: Stus-List 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

The shifter cable is a simple device.  It's the same as a bicycle brake cable.  
It's a solid wire that is run down a outer tube.  Each end of the tube is 
secured in position and the wire slides inside.  Move one end of the wire and 
the opposite end moves the same.  If everything is good at the Transmission 
end, the problem is at the  pedestal end.  The tube is secured inside the 
pedestal and the wire is fastened to the lever there, inside the pedestal.  
Usually, you can see both by pulling the compass on top of the pedestal.  It 
helps to look at the Edson website for their help videos.  I shared that link 
earlier.

Chuck


On 04/17/2021 3:46 PM General Gao via CnC-List  wrote:


Hi Chuck, yes I have done that, the transmission side was fine; it happened 
last season just before the boat was moved into position for hull-out, the 
control lever all of sudden lost its ability to properly move the transmission 
side lever into the correct position.

Bo

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:35 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER < 
cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
At the transmission, you should be able to locate the shifter lever and move it 
by hand.  This will also move the lever at the wheel pedestal.  I would move 
the transmission lever to neutral, forward and reverse positions and check that 
the pedestal lever positions agree.

Chuck S


On 04/17/2021 1:37 PM General Gao via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the shift 
cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the gearbox 
side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue. I've verified 
the cable at the engine end did not change

I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing

I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end bracket 
might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the distance of 
the conduit end from the control lever.

Am I missing something?

Regards,

Bo


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Stus-List Re: handrail

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

If you remove the wooden bungs and clean out the hole with a drill bit, use a 
strong flashlight to see the head better.   Clean the hole with a handheld 
drill bit, so you don't gouge the screw head. 

The bungs on my handrails were 3/8".  The heads on mine are Phillips and the 
machine screws are small, like No 8, in brass or bronze and very long, 3 1/2 to 
4" long.  The outer handrails on my boat attach to the inner handrails.  Nuts 
inside.   They've lived in my basement for the last 15 years.

I'll install the wood handrails but change the handrail fasteners to stainless 
and use Stainless Steel Tee Nuts.  I'll place the tee nuts on the outside, 
screw from inside so I can tighten or retighten from the inside.  I'll bung the 
outside for asthetics and waterproofing and leave the bungs off inside.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHOOSE-QTY-10-32-x-9-32-Long-Barrel-Stainless-Steel-T-Nut-Tee-Nut-3-Prong/164290492244?hash=item264079f754:g:8kIAAOSw-5hfDgcB

I think the best method is stainless steel handrails with welded studs but  I 
don't think I can afford that.

Chuck Scheaffer 1989 C 34R, Md

> On 04/17/2021 4:19 PM John Irvin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Mine (27-III) werebRobertsons
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > > On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:02 PM, General Gao via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Dwight, do you remember what kind of screw head it 
> was? I tried to look through the deep small hole, couldn’t see it 
> clearly...tried all kinds of screwdriver and could not get it to work.
> >  
> > Bo
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List < 
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I have a 1974 35 MKii. There are 2 additional 
> > brass screws in each leg. Some will break because they probably have 
> > dealloyed. I did this exact job about 10 years ago. Still good
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:26 AM General Gao via CnC-List < 
> > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > Thx everyone for chiming in!
> > > >  
> > > > My apologies I had thought I added my boat model in my 
> > > > signature, mine is a 1974 C 35 Mk2.
> > > >  
> > > > I would agree with you, it would be extremely unlikely 
> > > > that there was no wood screw used; besides, who would put through holes 
> > > > on the cabin if they did not intend to use screws to fasten the 
> > > > handrail from inside? I used flashlight, and I also used screw driver 
> > > > to poke inside the holes, I couldn't find anything. I will try again 
> > > > today.
> > > >  
> > > > But if anyone had worked on the same model of boat, I'd 
> > > > appreciate some kind of confirmation.
> > > >  
> > > > Regards,
> > > >  
> > > > Bo
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> >  
> > --
> > 1974 C 35 MK2
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> > help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list 
> > - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  
> > Thanks - Stu
> > 
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
> > with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

As Charlie points out, just about any hydraulics shop (and most farm implement, 
forklift, or construction machinery dealers) can rebuild a Navtec backstay 
adjuster. And based on 22 years in the forklift business, $260 would be at the 
high end of what I would estimate for the cost, depending on your cylinder. 
After all, it is just a small hydraulic cylinder, and maybe some make on demand 
hoses and a relatively low pressure pump.

 

Hydraulics shop would be the best starting point because the job would be too 
small for most dealers, and it would take time. 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: cenelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:06 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: cenelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free

 

I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of farmer implements use 
hydraulics) about 8 yrs ago for $260.

 

Still no leaks—!

 

Charlie Nelson




Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS 
 

On Thursday, April 15, 2021, 5:54 PM, Riley Anderson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello all, 

 

I'm getting rid of my Navtec backstay adjuster, it needs a rebuild ($620 from 
Navtec). I put it on eBay for cheap, but I'm only going to leave the listing up 
for a month. If it doesn't sell in that time, consider it free to any lister 
who wants it. My guess is shipping should be about $30-40. The model number is 
IA7-10, pulled it from my 1976 38-ii. Navtec says these are from 1989-1999.


 

Here is the link to the listing if you just can't wait. 
  Photos are on the listing.

 

-- 

Fair winds and following seas,

 

Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson

SV Freight Train

Middletown, CT USA

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Stus-List Re: handrail

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Mine (27-III) werebRobertsons

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:02 PM, General Gao via CnC-List  
wrote:


Hi Dwight, do you remember what kind of screw head it was? I tried to look 
through the deep small hole, couldn’t see it clearly...tried all kinds of 
screwdriver and could not get it to work.

Bo


On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have a 1974 35 MKii. There are 2 additional brass screws in each leg. Some 
will break because they probably have dealloyed. I did this exact job about 10 
years ago. Still good

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:26 AM General Gao via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Thx everyone for chiming in!

My apologies I had thought I added my boat model in my signature, mine is a 
1974 C 35 Mk2.

I would agree with you, it would be extremely unlikely that there was no wood 
screw used; besides, who would put through holes on the cabin if they did not 
intend to use screws to fasten the handrail from inside? I used flashlight, and 
I also used screw driver to poke inside the holes, I couldn't find anything. I 
will try again today.

But if anyone had worked on the same model of boat, I'd appreciate some kind of 
confirmation.

Regards,

Bo




--
1974 C 35 MK2
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

The shifter cable is a simple device.  It's the same as a bicycle brake cable.  
It's a solid wire that is run down a outer tube.  Each end of the tube is 
secured in position and the wire slides inside.  Move one end of the wire and 
the opposite end moves the same.  If everything is good at the Transmission 
end, the problem is at the  pedestal end.  The tube is secured inside the 
pedestal and the wire is fastened to the lever there, inside the pedestal.  
Usually, you can see both by pulling the compass on top of the pedestal.  It 
helps to look at the Edson website for their help videos.  I shared that link 
earlier.

Chuck



> On 04/17/2021 3:46 PM General Gao via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Hi Chuck, yes I have done that, the transmission side was fine; it 
> happened last season just before the boat was moved into position for 
> hull-out, the control lever all of sudden lost its ability to properly move 
> the transmission side lever into the correct position.
>  
> Bo
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:35 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER < 
> cscheaf...@comcast.net mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote:
> 
> > > At the transmission, you should be able to locate the 
> shifter lever and move it by hand.  This will also move the lever at the 
> wheel pedestal.  I would move the transmission lever to neutral, forward and 
> reverse positions and check that the pedestal lever positions agree.  
> >  
> > Chuck S
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > > > > On 04/17/2021 1:37 PM General Gao via 
> > CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > >  
> > >  
> > > I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To 
> > > summarize, the shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. 
> > > Looking at the gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and 
> > > caused the issue. I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
> > >  
> > > I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
> > >  
> > > 
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
> > >  
> > > 
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
> > >  
> > > I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the 
> > > conduit end bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw 
> > > that sets the distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
> > >  
> > > Am I missing something?
> > >  
> > > Regards,
> > >  
> > > Bo
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list 
> > > to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the 
> > > list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
> > > Thanks - Stu
> > > 
> > > > > 
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> > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks 
> > - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Inside the tube is a clamp that holds the cable shroud in place.  When your 
cable gets old and you have to muscle the shift lever to get the boat to go in 
gear, the clamp can break.  Trouble is, Edson no longer makes the clamp.  So 
gently remove it and have a machine shop make you a new one.  Make sure to get 
a new series 64 cable while you’re at it.  The broken clamp is a symptom, the 
40 year old cable is the problem.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Former Edson dude
83 Landfall 35 (with the same shift assembly)


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 3:46 PM, General Gao via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck, yes I have done that, the transmission side was fine; it happened 
> last season just before the boat was moved into position for hull-out, the 
> control lever all of sudden lost its ability to properly move the 
> transmission side lever into the correct position.
> 
> Bo
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:35 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER  
>> wrote:
>> At the transmission, you should be able to locate the shifter lever and move 
>> it by hand.  This will also move the lever at the wheel pedestal.  I would 
>> move the transmission lever to neutral, forward and reverse positions and 
>> check that the pedestal lever positions agree.  
>>  
>> Chuck S
>>  
>>  
>>> On 04/17/2021 1:37 PM General Gao via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the 
>>> shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the 
>>> gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue. 
>>> I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
>>>  
>>> I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
>>>  
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
>>>  
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
>>>  
>>> I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end 
>>> bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the 
>>> distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
>>>  
>>> Am I missing something?
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>>  
>>> Bo
>>>  
>>>  
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>>> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[General Gao via CnC-List]

Hi Jeff, yes I was able to move the cable by hand, the two end points of
cable travel for some reason changed suddenly.. The cable losted its
ability to move the transmission into different gears all of sudden at the
end of last season.

Bo

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 3:19 PM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> First thing I would do is disconnect the cable from the transmission and
> see how things work. Does that free up the cable? Is the lever difficult to
> move by itself? Then move forward.
>
> On Sat., Apr. 17, 2021, 1:37 p.m. General Gao via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the
>> shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the
>> gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue.
>> I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
>>
>> I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end
>> bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the
>> distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bo
>>
>>
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>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
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> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[General Gao via CnC-List]

Hi Chuck, yes I have done that, the transmission side was fine; it happened
last season just before the boat was moved into position for hull-out, the
control lever all of sudden lost its ability to properly move the
transmission side lever into the correct position.

Bo

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:35 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
wrote:

> At the transmission, you should be able to locate the shifter lever and
> move it by hand.  This will also move the lever at the wheel pedestal.  I
> would move the transmission lever to neutral, forward and reverse positions
> and check that the pedestal lever positions agree.
>
> Chuck S
>
>
>
> On 04/17/2021 1:37 PM General Gao via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the
> shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the
> gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue.
> I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
>
> I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
>
> I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end
> bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the
> distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Regards,
>
> Bo
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks -
> Stu
>
>
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List]

First thing I would do is disconnect the cable from the transmission and
see how things work. Does that free up the cable? Is the lever difficult to
move by itself? Then move forward.

On Sat., Apr. 17, 2021, 1:37 p.m. General Gao via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the
> shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the
> gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue.
> I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
>
> I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
>
> I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end
> bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the
> distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Regards,
>
> Bo
>
>
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Stus-List Re: help with shift cable issue

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

At the transmission, you should be able to locate the shifter lever and move it 
by hand.  This will also move the lever at the wheel pedestal.  I would move 
the transmission lever to neutral, forward and reverse positions and check that 
the pedestal lever positions agree.  

Chuck S



> On 04/17/2021 1:37 PM General Gao via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the 
> shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the 
> gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue. 
> I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change
>  
> I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:
>  
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing
>  
> I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end 
> bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the 
> distance of the conduit end from the control lever.
>  
> Am I missing something?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Bo
>  
>  
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Stus-List Re: handrail

[General Gao via CnC-List]

Hi Dwight, do you remember what kind of screw head it was? I tried to look
through the deep small hole, couldn’t see it clearly...tried all kinds of
screwdriver and could not get it to work.

Bo


On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a 1974 35 MKii. There are 2 additional brass screws in each leg.
> Some will break because they probably have dealloyed. I did this exact job
> about 10 years ago. Still good
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:26 AM General Gao via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thx everyone for chiming in!
>>
>> My apologies I had thought I added my boat model in my signature, mine is
>> a 1974 C 35 Mk2.
>>
>> I would agree with you, it would be extremely unlikely that there was no
>> wood screw used; besides, who would put through holes on the cabin if they
>> did not intend to use screws to fasten the handrail from inside? I used
>> flashlight, and I also used screw driver to poke inside the holes, I
>> couldn't find anything. I will try again today.
>>
>> But if anyone had worked on the same model of boat, I'd appreciate some
>> kind of confirmation.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bo
>>
>>
>

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Stus-List help with shift cable issue

[General Gao via CnC-List]

I am continuing with my work on the shift cable issue. To summarize, the
shift cable suddenly could not shift the gearbox properly. Looking at the
gearbox side, the cable conduit ends may have moved and caused the issue.
I've verified the cable at the engine end did not change

I took a couple of pictures at the control end of things:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nXEiGVBoIcaEGtVxav6felcClgAVns2b/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Lji9SQ1EPGDig2bngtrdwHd4I0moIBa/view?usp=sharing

I am thinking something got loose at the pedestal side, the conduit end
bracket might got loose; however I could not find the screw that sets the
distance of the conduit end from the control lever.

Am I missing something?

Regards,

Bo
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Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller ideas

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Yep.  Maintenance is critical.  For those who haven't seen the can of worms
I found in Touche's steering system, go to:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd/view?usp=sharing

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 10:33 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> While an emergency tiller is a necessary safety item, I strongly suggest
> better *maintenance* of the cable/chain and wheel system.  There are many
> online videos from Edson and others that show how to do that.
> https://edsonmarine.com/sailboat-product-videos/
>
>
>
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Stus-List Emergency tiller ideas

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

While an emergency tiller is a necessary safety item, I strongly suggest better 
maintenance of the cable/chain and wheel system.  There are many online videos 
from Edson and others that show how to do that.  
https://edsonmarine.com/sailboat-product-videos/

Emergency tiller rope purchase
FWIW, Our boat came with a short emergency tiller.  Our plan is to use a simple 
rope purchase as was used on larger sailing vessels in the past to control 
their tillers.

Here is a wonderful video of the Jolie Brise (Jolly Breeze) which has an 
enormous sail area contolled by a simple tiller.  To see the rope purchase, 
skip to 12 min and pause it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzyGJeQg7bc

Hope you enjoy these videos.

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Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Close but Not 100% shoulda done a video. Plenty of steerage for an emergency 
situation  for sure!


On Apr 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

John, thanks very much. From your pics, that’s just my set up. So you can get 
full steerage from that angle—no conflict with wheel?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
John, I'd like to see your pics, thanks!

Richard
s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge 
Lane,
 Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com 
mailto:petemcm...@gmail.com>>; John Conklin 
mailto:jconk...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:26 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37

Hi Peter,
On My 37 the access plate just under helm seat  is remover and a long pole with 
square base is inserted into matching female square top of the rudder post. The 
pole only fits/aims sideways ( toward engine control panel) and you actually 
steer  from there.
After reading about this topic last year I decided to check it out and document 
it. I have pics but its too much of a pain to post pics on here using google 
drive. Happy to send them  along if anyone would like to see  the emergency 
tiller system, really works nice, and I could see steering with this in a pinch 
no problem.

John Conklin
S/v Halcyon

On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have 
noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not 
dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider?
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Stus-List Virtual Rendezvous

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Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Thanks Len,
 Yes, pretty robust system for sure.  I tried it and moving the rudder was like 
using a tiller ( sideways) 
Hoping to never need to use this feature no matter how well it works 

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 10:29 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
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> 
> John, that looks like great leverage. I applaud you for testing it before you 
> need it. Every C will be a little different. Mine is short and almost 
> impossible to use in moderate wind without a winch. It’s worth trying before 
> shit happens. Auto helm is your friend if something goes bad FYI. Len. 
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