Stus-List Re: Batteries again

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I have used Dyno batteries without issue.  They cost less than 1/2.  Am I 
missing something?

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/dyno-battery-heavy-duty-m30-marine-batteries/m30hh

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On May 30, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I highly recommend Lifeline group 31
> 
> Get Outlook for Android
> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:40:31 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Batteries again
>  
> There is a lot of reason to be concerned about off brands. Pretty much all 
> cycling batteries of the same size will be about the same AH rating. There is 
> no magic in lead batteries, the AH per pound is pretty consistent.  What 
> matters *hugely* is the number of cycles that they can endure before being 
> trashed. The various cheap Chinese imports are highly variable to say the 
> least, their reviews are all over the place. Lifeline is usually considered 
> the best AGM maker.
> FYI – Deka makes all the West Marine AGMs, you might call around your local 
> battery shop and see what they charge. They are worse than Lifelines, but if 
> they crap out after a week at least you can return them to the store 
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  
>  
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List  
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:25 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: Stus-List Batteries again
>  
> I have been following the battery discussion and have a question.  I need to 
> replace my two 9 year old AGM batteries this season.  I have separate start 
> and house batteries which can be combined if needed.  I don’t have large 
> power needs (electronics, autopilot and fridge when cruising).  I have been 
> reading and researching this and I am unsure of what to purchase.  From what 
> I have read, AH is the important number to focus on.  Last time, I got 
> Lifeline AGM group 27 from Defender.  Defender has 3 different group 27 
> batteries
> Powertech rated at 92AH  which cost about $330
> Lifeline  rated at 100AH for 432
> Northstar   rated at 92AH for 457
>   
> From Amazon, I can get a VMAX group 27 with 100AH for $289 or a Universal 
> with 110 AH for $239.  Is there any reason to be concerned about less known 
> (to me) brands from Amazon or does it make sense to just focus on the 
> numbers?  Thanks- Dave  
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
>  

Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

FWIW, My VHF antenna cable and mast wiring extends six feet from the bottom of 
the mast, up under a settee bunk.  The wires enter a waterproof box and land on 
a terminal strip and the coax has a female PL259 connecting to a double male 
PL258 to the cable that goes to the VHF radio.  Under the sole is a wet area.  
Under a bunk is higher up and drier.  I disconnect everything myself before 
pulling the mast.

Chuck S

> On 05/28/2022 6:26 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> About 8" from where it enters the bottom of the mast in the bilge (dry). 
> Except for working on my old knees and removing part of the sole, it is 
> reachable. I have not found the other end that goes to the radio but I 
> suspect it is hidden under the sole that I must remove to see/find it. 
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andy Frame 
> Sent: Sat, May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes
> 
> 
> Where is the cut?
> 
> On 5/28/2022 12:07 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
> > The yard that removed my mast to replace the rod rigging just cut the
> > mast antenna cable and so I either have to have another cable run or
> > 'splice' the current cable using one of the Sheakspeare fittings that
> > claim to connect the shield and the conductor without solder, etc.
> >
> > Has any one on the list used such connectors and had any luck (or hints
> > on how to proceed!) or am I faced with running new cable and the expense
> > of someone to climb the mast, etc. The connector was only $16 so I
> > figured it was worth that much to give it a try.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Charlie Nelson
> > Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb
> > New Bern, NC
> 
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> s/v MaryMe
> 1975 C 24
> Port Labelle, FL USA
> Amateur Radio WD4RCC
> 
> 

Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I forget where I came across this guide but it has served me well.  I don't
recall needing a crimper.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yMTRmMzIxYTktMDcxOS00NmMyLTg0ZDQtODg1NjU5N2ZkMGJl/view?usp=drivesdk=0-Hr-2cV_NnRO2_bhpIbiGBw

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, May 30, 2022, 09:44 cenelson--- via CnC-List 
wrote:

> A great idea although my mast is not routinely removed—twice since new in
> 1995.
>
> At least this solution allows the cable to be disconnected and reconnected
> without cutting it, which the Shakespeare connector requires.
>
> Of course, I would need a ‘crimper’ for the male connectors—as another
> poster proclaimed “…it never ends…”
>
> Charlie
>
> PS: I am going to lean hard on the yard to do this fix—they were the one
> who broke it—as other listers have suggested!
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022, 8:57 AM, Hoyt, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> You should put a connector there anyway so that you can remove the mast in
> the future.  Majority of boats at our club take down mast every year and
> are set up this way.  Basically same connector as at radio and antenna ends
> of the cable with a  barrel connector
>
>
>
> *From:* Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* May 28, 2022 7:27 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes
>
>
>
> About 8" from where it enters the bottom of the mast in the bilge (dry).
> Except for working on my old knees and removing part of the sole, it is
> reachable. I have not found the other end that goes to the radio but I
> suspect it is hidden under the sole that I must remove to see/find it.
>
>
>
> Charlie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andy Frame 
> Sent: Sat, May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes
>
>
> Where is the cut?
>
>
> On 5/28/2022 12:07 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
> > The yard that removed my mast to replace the rod rigging just cut the
> > mast antenna cable and so I either have to have another cable run or
> > 'splice' the current cable using one of the Sheakspeare fittings that
> > claim to connect the shield and the conductor without solder, etc.
> >
> > Has any one on the list used such connectors and had any luck (or hints
> > on how to proceed!) or am I faced with running new cable and the expense
> > of someone to climb the mast, etc. The connector was only $16 so I
> > figured it was worth that much to give it a try.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Charlie Nelson
> > Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb
> > New Bern, NC
>
>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> s/v MaryMe
> 1975 C 24
> Port Labelle, FL USA
> Amateur Radio WD4RCC
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

It certainly does not seem unreasonable for the yard to have cut it if there 
was no way to disconnect it, That is just common sense. But they should have 
taped a line onto the hidden part so you could fish another from the radio.

At some point a mast is going to have to be removed.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: cenelson--- via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 9:44 AM
To: Hoyt, Mike; Stus-List
Cc: cenel...@aim.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

 

A great idea although my mast is not routinely removed—twice since new in 1995.

 

At least this solution allows the cable to be disconnected and reconnected 
without cutting it, which the Shakespeare connector requires.

 

Of course, I would need a ‘crimper’ for the male connectors—as another poster 
proclaimed “…it never ends…”

 

Charlie

 

PS: I am going to lean hard on the yard to do this fix—they were the one who 
broke it—as other listers have suggested!


Sent   
from the all new AOL app for iOS

On Monday, May 30, 2022, 8:57 AM, Hoyt, Mike  wrote:

You should put a connector there anyway so that you can remove the mast in the 
future.  Majority of boats at our club take down mast every year and are set up 
this way.  Basically same connector as at radio and antenna ends of the cable 
with a  barrel connector

 

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
Sent: May 28, 2022 7:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

 

About 8" from where it enters the bottom of the mast in the bilge (dry). Except 
for working on my old knees and removing part of the sole, it is reachable. I 
have not found the other end that goes to the radio but I suspect it is hidden 
under the sole that I must remove to see/find it.  

 

Charlie

-Original Message-
From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andy Frame 
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes


Where is the cut?


On 5/28/2022 12:07 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
> The yard that removed my mast to replace the rod rigging just cut the
> mast antenna cable and so I either have to have another cable run or
> 'splice' the current cable using one of the Sheakspeare fittings that
> claim to connect the shield and the conductor without solder, etc.
>
> Has any one on the list used such connectors and had any luck (or hints
> on how to proceed!) or am I faced with running new cable and the expense
> of someone to climb the mast, etc. The connector was only $16 so I
> figured it was worth that much to give it a try.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb
> New Bern, NC


>
>
>

--
s/v MaryMe
1975 C 24
Port Labelle, FL USA
Amateur Radio WD4RCC 

 

Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

[cenelson--- via CnC-List]

A great idea although my mast is not routinely removed—twice since new in 1995.
At least this solution allows the cable to be disconnected and reconnected 
without cutting it, which the Shakespeare connector requires.
Of course, I would need a ‘crimper’ for the male connectors—as another poster 
proclaimed “…it never ends…”
Charlie
PS: I am going to lean hard on the yard to do this fix—they were the one who 
broke it—as other listers have suggested!


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, May 30, 2022, 8:57 AM, Hoyt, Mike  wrote:


You should put a connector there anyway so that you can remove the mast in the 
future.  Majority of boats at our club take down mast every year and are set up 
this way.  Basically same connector as at radio and antenna ends of the cable 
with a  barrel connector
 
  
 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Sent: May 28, 2022 7:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes
 
  
 
About 8" from where it enters the bottom of the mast in the bilge (dry). Except 
for working on my old knees and removing part of the sole, it is reachable. I 
have not found the other end that goes to the radio but I suspect it is hidden 
under the sole that I must remove to see/find it. 
 
  
 
Charlie


 
-Original Message-
From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andy Frame 
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes
 

Where is the cut?
 

On 5/28/2022 12:07 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
> The yard that removed my mast to replace the rod rigging just cut the
> mast antenna cable and so I either have to have another cable run or
> 'splice' the current cable using one of the Sheakspeare fittings that
> claim to connect the shield and the conductor without solder, etc.
>
> Has any one on the list used such connectors and had any luck (or hints
> on how to proceed!) or am I faced with running new cable and the expense
> of someone to climb the mast, etc. The connector was only $16 so I
> figured it was worth that much to give it a try.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb
> New Bern, NC
 

>
>
>

--
s/v MaryMe
1975 C 24
Port Labelle, FL USA
Amateur Radio WD4RCC 
 
  
 

Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

You should put a connector there anyway so that you can remove the mast in the 
future.  Majority of boats at our club take down mast every year and are set up 
this way.  Basically same connector as at radio and antenna ends of the cable 
with a  barrel connector

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Sent: May 28, 2022 7:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

About 8" from where it enters the bottom of the mast in the bilge (dry). Except 
for working on my old knees and removing part of the sole, it is reachable. I 
have not found the other end that goes to the radio but I suspect it is hidden 
under the sole that I must remove to see/find it.

Charlie

-Original Message-
From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andy Frame 
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Antenna cable woes

Where is the cut?

On 5/28/2022 12:07 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
> The yard that removed my mast to replace the rod rigging just cut the
> mast antenna cable and so I either have to have another cable run or
> 'splice' the current cable using one of the Sheakspeare fittings that
> claim to connect the shield and the conductor without solder, etc.
>
> Has any one on the list used such connectors and had any luck (or hints
> on how to proceed!) or am I faced with running new cable and the expense
> of someone to climb the mast, etc. The connector was only $16 so I
> figured it was worth that much to give it a try.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb
> New Bern, NC

>
>
>

--
s/v MaryMe
1975 C 24
Port Labelle, FL USA
Amateur Radio WD4RCC