Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Joe via CnC-List]

AFAIK fireflies are no longer sold

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> On Jul 25, 2022, at 15:31, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
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> 
> Have a look at firefly batteries.   If you have the room these would be a 
> great alternative to lithium. 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2022 2:12 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.
> 
> What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from the 
> engine bank.
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>  
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> Joe Della Barba
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> Coquina
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> From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List  
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Chris Riedinger 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt
> 
>  
> 
> Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new 
> charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers. 
> 
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> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 
> 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my 
> spare belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators 
> back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite 
> a bit longer.
> 
> I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and 
> just pick one!
> 
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>  
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> Coquina
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> 

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

24v lithium are available

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From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 10:55:43 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

Why do you need the DC-DC Charger?
I am thinking about this too. I need to replace my Heart Inverter/Charger, so 
there is that. I have fairly new Balmer Regulators, so I am pretty sure they 
have a lithium battery setting.
Also, I am on 24 Volt, so if it is available would there be an advantage to 
using 24V instead of putting 12V in series?

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:13 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.

What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from the 
engine bank.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina



From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
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Cc: Chris Riedinger 
mailto:chris.riedin...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt



Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new 
charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers.



On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 16 
miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my spare 
belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators back to 
the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite a bit 
longer.

I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and just 
pick one!





Joe Della Barba

Coquina

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Have a look at firefly batteries.   If you have the room these would be a great alternative to lithium. On Jul 25, 2022 2:12 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  wrote:

My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.
What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from the engine bank.
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 

From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Chris Riedinger 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

 

Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers. 

 


On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:




To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my spare belts it turns out they
 were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite a bit longer.
I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and just pick one!
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina

Stus-List Now lithium batteries

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

If you charge a lithium battery directly, there are a couple of issues even if 
the regulator has lithium settings:

1.  Lithium batteries charge so well they look like a dead short, so 
burning up alternators and belts is a real issue.
2.  If the BMS decides to cut the battery off from charging, it will wreck 
your alternator.

 

The DC-DC charger takes care of lithium-specific charging, limits the total 
draw on the alternator, and if the BMS kicks off the alternator is still hooked 
to the start battery.

Re 24 volts: You can buy 24 volt batteries or sometimes buy 2 12 volt 
batteries. Not all batteries can be put in series and not all can be put in 
parallel, you need to read the descriptions.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 2:56 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

 

Why do you need the DC-DC Charger?

I am thinking about this too. I need to replace my Heart Inverter/Charger, so 
there is that. I have fairly new Balmer Regulators, so I am pretty sure they 
have a lithium battery setting.

Also, I am on 24 Volt, so if it is available would there be an advantage to 
using 24V instead of putting 12V in series?

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie PA

 

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Why do you need the DC-DC Charger?
I am thinking about this too. I need to replace my Heart Inverter/Charger,
so there is that. I have fairly new Balmer Regulators, so I am pretty sure
they have a lithium battery setting.
Also, I am on 24 Volt, so if it is available would there be an advantage to
using 24V instead of putting 12V in series?

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:13 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.
>
> What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from
> the engine bank.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Chris Riedinger 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator
> belt
>
>
>
> Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires
> new charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy
> chargers.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I
> had 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through
> my spare belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap
> alternators back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job
> became quite a bit longer.
>
> I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time
> and just pick one!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *Coquina*
>
>

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.
What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from the 
engine bank.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina

From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Chris Riedinger 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new 
charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 16 
miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my spare 
belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators back to 
the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite a bit 
longer.
I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and just 
pick one!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new
charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I
> had 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through
> my spare belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap
> alternators back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job
> became quite a bit longer.
>
> I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time
> and just pick one!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *Coquina*
>

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Joe,

Renogy is having a great sale.  If I hadn't purchased two from China last
year that would be my choice.

Joel

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:29 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I
> had 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through
> my spare belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap
> alternators back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job
> became quite a bit longer.
>
> I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time
> and just pick one!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *Coquina*
>


-- 
Joel

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 16 
miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my spare 
belts it turns out they were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators back to 
the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite a bit 
longer.
I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and just 
pick one!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina