Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I had a 20 amp Hart inverter / charger in my sailboat.  When it failed I 
replaced it with an inverter and separate charger,  The Hart was the size of 3 
shoe boxes,  new units combined  are 1/2 the size.

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From: Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 7:07 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

I second Josh’s endorsement of the Pro Mariner Pro Nautic.

I originally installed an old Xantrex (I think 30 amp) mainly because it was 
cheap on eBay. It lasted well over a decade, and I was happy with it. But it 
eventually failed and I replaced with a new 40 amp Xantrex in about 2014. It 
crapped out a few months after the warranty period.  A friend who is a marine 
electronics wizard (people actually pay him to come to Florida to work on their 
boats) told me that Xantrex had been bought and the quality had gone to pot. 
Pro Mariner was one of his recommendations for the replacement.

BTW, I was considering getting an inverter/charger and he suggested getting two 
devices instead of one. With an inverter/charger if either system fails you 
tend to lose both functions. So I have more than adequate charging capacity for 
the big house bank to run the boat systems, and a 1000W sine wave inverter for 
AC things like charging the laptop and the various rechargeable items on the 
boat.

And I prefer to hand grind fresh coffee beans ( the Japanese grinder on the 
boat may have cost more than the inverter) and use a French Press for coffee.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: Josh via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 5:11 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

FWIW:  I have had 2 bad experiences with modern Xantrex TrueCharge II chargers. 
 One was 40 amps and I believe the second was 60 amps.  I finally replaced them 
with a ProMariner Pro Nautic P1260.  The charger has served me well in nearly 
every possible capacity.  That experience has left a bad taste in my mouth with 
regard to modern Xantrex products.  I would encourage anyone interested to 
investigate a Pro Mariner line of inverters.

https://www.promariner.com/en/products/marine%20dc%20to%20ac%20power%20inverters

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


Nov 18, 2022 13:09:37 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
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I use an old fashioned stove top percolator for coffee on Darlin.  I use a Zero 
Water pitcher/ filter to remove any “tank” flavor from the water.  It will 
deliver water with less than 5 ppm dissolved solids for a $35 investment.  
Works great!  I am based in Seattle and appreciate good coffee. A paper filter 
added to the bottom of the basket keeps the grounds out of the cup.  Wonderful, 
just set the percolator on medium heat when you get up.  It is ready after you 
take a potty break and brush your teeth.
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Thanks Chuck
On Persistence we simply boil the water and use a French press for coffee.  The 
Vigil Shorepower brand inverter that was listed as tested and working on our 
pre--purchase survey in 2014 never has worked for us.  I have a small sine-wave 
inverter mounted under the chart table that we use for the odd 110v needs 
(charging and computers).
We recently purchased a WolfPup 16PF travel trailer for something of a change.  
It has no inverter and I am considering installing one.  Also have a 1200w 
inverter generator (also too small for Keurig).  The inverter would mainly be 
just to run a tv and such.  Am thinking of replacing the “converter” with a 
Converter/inverter (I know Renogy makes a bunch of those as does Xantrex).  I 
am constantly amazed at the difference in quality between a boat and a trailer. 
 However they are quite similar in many ways
Mike
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Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I now have a Kreidler 3,000 watt inverter and a Charles marine 60 amp charger.  
They seem to work well.  I also use 900 watts of solar to charge the house 
batts.

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From: Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 7:07 PM
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Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

I second Josh’s endorsement of the Pro Mariner Pro Nautic.

I originally installed an old Xantrex (I think 30 amp) mainly because it was 
cheap on eBay. It lasted well over a decade, and I was happy with it. But it 
eventually failed and I replaced with a new 40 amp Xantrex in about 2014. It 
crapped out a few months after the warranty period.  A friend who is a marine 
electronics wizard (people actually pay him to come to Florida to work on their 
boats) told me that Xantrex had been bought and the quality had gone to pot. 
Pro Mariner was one of his recommendations for the replacement.

BTW, I was considering getting an inverter/charger and he suggested getting two 
devices instead of one. With an inverter/charger if either system fails you 
tend to lose both functions. So I have more than adequate charging capacity for 
the big house bank to run the boat systems, and a 1000W sine wave inverter for 
AC things like charging the laptop and the various rechargeable items on the 
boat.

And I prefer to hand grind fresh coffee beans ( the Japanese grinder on the 
boat may have cost more than the inverter) and use a French Press for coffee.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: Josh via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 5:11 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Josh 
Subject: Stus-List Re: charger/inverter

FWIW:  I have had 2 bad experiences with modern Xantrex TrueCharge II chargers. 
 One was 40 amps and I believe the second was 60 amps.  I finally replaced them 
with a ProMariner Pro Nautic P1260.  The charger has served me well in nearly 
every possible capacity.  That experience has left a bad taste in my mouth with 
regard to modern Xantrex products.  I would encourage anyone interested to 
investigate a Pro Mariner line of inverters.

https://www.promariner.com/en/products/marine%20dc%20to%20ac%20power%20inverters

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


Nov 18, 2022 13:09:37 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>:
I use an old fashioned stove top percolator for coffee on Darlin.  I use a Zero 
Water pitcher/ filter to remove any “tank” flavor from the water.  It will 
deliver water with less than 5 ppm dissolved solids for a $35 investment.  
Works great!  I am based in Seattle and appreciate good coffee. A paper filter 
added to the bottom of the basket keeps the grounds out of the cup.  Wonderful, 
just set the percolator on medium heat when you get up.  It is ready after you 
take a potty break and brush your teeth.
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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 10:55 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Stus-List Re: charger/inverter
Thanks Chuck
On Persistence we simply boil the water and use a French press for coffee.  The 
Vigil Shorepower brand inverter that was listed as tested and working on our 
pre--purchase survey in 2014 never has worked for us.  I have a small sine-wave 
inverter mounted under the chart table that we use for the odd 110v needs 
(charging and computers).
We recently purchased a WolfPup 16PF travel trailer for something of a change.  
It has no inverter and I am considering installing one.  Also have a 1200w 
inverter generator (also too small for Keurig).  The inverter would mainly be 
just to run a tv and such.  Am thinking of replacing the “converter” with a 
Converter/inverter (I know Renogy makes a bunch of those as does Xantrex).  I 
am constantly amazed at the difference in quality between a boat and a trailer. 
 However they are quite similar in many ways
Mike
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Sent: November 18, 2022 1:44 PM
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