Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

2023-05-23 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
I have 6 group 27s only because I was to lazy to pull the floor boards and
measure. I could've had group 31s.


On Tue, May 23, 2023, 09:17 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
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> I quit buying 8D batteries years ago and replaced with type 31.
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> True, but they are longer end-to-end and do not fit where the 4D goes. I
> have glassed in supports sized to the 4D.  I would definitely have done
> that and saved my back if they fit.
>
> Also three group 24s fit into an 8D box if you have one.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
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>
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> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead
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> 2 type 31 AGM batts will give you 200 amps and are far easier to move than
> the 4D
>
>
>
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> *From:* Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
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> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* j...@dellabarba.com 
> *Subject:* Stus-List New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead
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>
>
> I have been trying to put off buying new batteries until I can rewire for
> Lithium, but that was not to be. My last sail saw the house battery drop to
> about 12.4 volts an hour off shore power and the engine battery struggles
> with a cold engine.
>
> To my surprise, the local West Marine in Annapolis started carrying
> Odyssey batteries. I got a 4D Odyssey that uses their pure lead thin plate
> technology. This is basically an AGM, but is supposed to have a longer
> lifespan and charge faster than the conventional version. The West Marine
> branded batteries are really East-Penn Deka batteries. The Deka AGMs are
> only “OK”, not great. I was really happy to see WM branching out a bit. For
> the start battery I decided to risk a battery made out of Chinenesium, if
> it dies I am not out a lot of money nor is it hard to change out.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6Z3VZ2?psc=1=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
>
> There are a lot of U1 size AGMs on Amazon, most of them seem to be around
> 150-170 CCA. This one is 320 CCA, which is plenty for me, the A4 starter
> draws about 130 amps.
>
>
>
> I am 100% sure the next house battery I buy will be lithium, getting a 120
> pound battery into it’s spot was a huge PITA. Right now the tech is just
> not there on the cheap end. The “drop in” batteries really are no such
> thing. They might not blow up or catch on fire, but they may have a vey
> short lifespan depending on exactly what they get dropped in to. Even worse
> is when on a dark and stormy night the BMS decides to cut off all your
> power for some random reason.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

2023-05-23 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
I quit buying 8D batteries years ago and replaced with type 31.

Get Outlook for Android

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 7:25:35 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
Subject: Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead


True, but they are longer end-to-end and do not fit where the 4D goes. I have 
glassed in supports sized to the 4D.  I would definitely have done that and 
saved my back if they fit.

Also three group 24s fit into an 8D box if you have one.



Joe

Coquina





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Subject: Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead



2 type 31 AGM batts will give you 200 amps and are far easier to move than the 
4D



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I have been trying to put off buying new batteries until I can rewire for 
Lithium, but that was not to be. My last sail saw the house battery drop to 
about 12.4 volts an hour off shore power and the engine battery struggles with 
a cold engine.

To my surprise, the local West Marine in Annapolis started carrying Odyssey 
batteries. I got a 4D Odyssey that uses their pure lead thin plate technology. 
This is basically an AGM, but is supposed to have a longer lifespan and charge 
faster than the conventional version. The West Marine branded batteries are 
really East-Penn Deka batteries. The Deka AGMs are only “OK”, not great. I was 
really happy to see WM branching out a bit. For the start battery I decided to 
risk a battery made out of Chinenesium, if it dies I am not out a lot of money 
nor is it hard to change out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6Z3VZ2?psc=1=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

There are a lot of U1 size AGMs on Amazon, most of them seem to be around 
150-170 CCA. This one is 320 CCA, which is plenty for me, the A4 starter draws 
about 130 amps.



I am 100% sure the next house battery I buy will be lithium, getting a 120 
pound battery into it’s spot was a huge PITA. Right now the tech is just not 
there on the cheap end. The “drop in” batteries really are no such thing. They 
might not blow up or catch on fire, but they may have a vey short lifespan 
depending on exactly what they get dropped in to. Even worse is when on a dark 
and stormy night the BMS decides to cut off all your power for some random 
reason.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA




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Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

2023-05-23 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
True, but they are longer end-to-end and do not fit where the 4D goes. I
have glassed in supports sized to the 4D.  I would definitely have done that
and saved my back if they fit.

Also three group 24s fit into an 8D box if you have one.

 

Joe

Coquina 

 

 

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To: Stus-List 
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Subject: Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

 

2 type 31 AGM batts will give you 200 amps and are far easier to move than
the 4D 

 

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Subject: Stus-List New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead 

 

I have been trying to put off buying new batteries until I can rewire for
Lithium, but that was not to be. My last sail saw the house battery drop to
about 12.4 volts an hour off shore power and the engine battery struggles
with a cold engine.

To my surprise, the local West Marine in Annapolis started carrying Odyssey
batteries. I got a 4D Odyssey that uses their pure lead thin plate
technology. This is basically an AGM, but is supposed to have a longer
lifespan and charge faster than the conventional version. The West Marine
branded batteries are really East-Penn Deka batteries. The Deka AGMs are
only "OK", not great. I was really happy to see WM branching out a bit. For
the start battery I decided to risk a battery made out of Chinenesium, if it
dies I am not out a lot of money nor is it hard to change out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6Z3VZ2?psc=1
 =ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

There are a lot of U1 size AGMs on Amazon, most of them seem to be around
150-170 CCA. This one is 320 CCA, which is plenty for me, the A4 starter
draws about 130 amps.

 

I am 100% sure the next house battery I buy will be lithium, getting a 120
pound battery into it's spot was a huge PITA. Right now the tech is just not
there on the cheap end. The "drop in" batteries really are no such thing.
They might not blow up or catch on fire, but they may have a vey short
lifespan depending on exactly what they get dropped in to. Even worse is
when on a dark and stormy night the BMS decides to cut off all your power
for some random reason.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

2023-05-23 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
2 type 31 AGM batts will give you 200 amps and are far easier to move than the 
4D

Get Outlook for Android

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:54:07 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
Subject: Stus-List New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead


I have been trying to put off buying new batteries until I can rewire for 
Lithium, but that was not to be. My last sail saw the house battery drop to 
about 12.4 volts an hour off shore power and the engine battery struggles with 
a cold engine.

To my surprise, the local West Marine in Annapolis started carrying Odyssey 
batteries. I got a 4D Odyssey that uses their pure lead thin plate technology. 
This is basically an AGM, but is supposed to have a longer lifespan and charge 
faster than the conventional version. The West Marine branded batteries are 
really East-Penn Deka batteries. The Deka AGMs are only “OK”, not great. I was 
really happy to see WM branching out a bit. For the start battery I decided to 
risk a battery made out of Chinenesium, if it dies I am not out a lot of money 
nor is it hard to change out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6Z3VZ2?psc=1=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

There are a lot of U1 size AGMs on Amazon, most of them seem to be around 
150-170 CCA. This one is 320 CCA, which is plenty for me, the A4 starter draws 
about 130 amps.



I am 100% sure the next house battery I buy will be lithium, getting a 120 
pound battery into it’s spot was a huge PITA. Right now the tech is just not 
there on the cheap end. The “drop in” batteries really are no such thing. They 
might not blow up or catch on fire, but they may have a vey short lifespan 
depending on exactly what they get dropped in to. Even worse is when on a dark 
and stormy night the BMS decides to cut off all your power for some random 
reason.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA




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Stus-List New Batteries Last Time I Buy Lead

2023-05-23 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
I have been trying to put off buying new batteries until I can rewire for 
Lithium, but that was not to be. My last sail saw the house battery drop to 
about 12.4 volts an hour off shore power and the engine battery struggles with 
a cold engine.

To my surprise, the local West Marine in Annapolis started carrying Odyssey 
batteries. I got a 4D Odyssey that uses their pure lead thin plate technology. 
This is basically an AGM, but is supposed to have a longer lifespan and charge 
faster than the conventional version. The West Marine branded batteries are 
really East-Penn Deka batteries. The Deka AGMs are only “OK”, not great. I was 
really happy to see WM branching out a bit. For the start battery I decided to 
risk a battery made out of Chinenesium, if it dies I am not out a lot of money 
nor is it hard to change out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6Z3VZ2?psc=1 
 
=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

There are a lot of U1 size AGMs on Amazon, most of them seem to be around 
150-170 CCA. This one is 320 CCA, which is plenty for me, the A4 starter draws 
about 130 amps.

 

I am 100% sure the next house battery I buy will be lithium, getting a 120 
pound battery into it’s spot was a huge PITA. Right now the tech is just not 
there on the cheap end. The “drop in” batteries really are no such thing. They 
might not blow up or catch on fire, but they may have a vey short lifespan 
depending on exactly what they get dropped in to. Even worse is when on a dark 
and stormy night the BMS decides to cut off all your power for some random 
reason.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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