Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement

[nausetbeach--- via CnC-List]

Another great suggestion from the list.  

 

Unfortunately, it turns out there appears to be a leak in the tank itself, 
though how is a mystery given it was replaced in 2018.  Need to obtain some 
additional jerry cans and pump out the diesel so can look at the bottom of the 
tank.  

 

The adventure continues…  

 

From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2023 1:14 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Shawn Wright 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement

 

A piece of a plastic bag tied to a string, then sucked with a shop vac works 
well, I would be concerned that cotton could get wet and not be effective. We 
used the bag method often for sucking a string through up to 300' of conduit 
underground. 


--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com  

S/V Halcyon Passage

https://www.facebook.com/halcyonpassage

S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 (for sale)

https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto

 

 

On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 4:25 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I meant "golf" ball

 

 

 

Sent from my Android-based can on a string

 

 

 

 Original message 

From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 2023-06-17 14:31 (GMT-05:00) 

To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement 

 

A hold ball with a string (and a shopvac) is also a good option

 

Marek 

 

 

 

Sent from my Android-based can on a string

 

 

 

 Original message 

From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 2023-06-17 11:26 (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net   

Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement 

 

Thank you all for the suggestions.  Using a coupler is a great idea, and have 
sourced one locally from HD, at an exorbitant price, $10.  None of the local 
Lowes, WM or marine stores had any in stock and this project will be attempted 
tomorrow, so no time for shipping.  

 

Will try to run a string through the combined old and new hose, end to end as a 
backup / guide for this misadventure.  Another great idea.  Recall people using 
a cotton ball tied on the end of a string and a shop vac on the other end to 
pull it through; hopefully that works. Will tape the two hoses / coupler with 
duct tape [like 5200, not something I like on board] to hopefully secure it.  
There is no room for hose clamps.  The Mrs has been Shanghaied into helping, 
and will have handy what is called the “Profanisaurus” on another sailing list. 

 

I will post how it goes….

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

From: Jonathan Tebbens via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 8:31 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Jonathan Tebbens mailto:jonathantebb...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement

 

Can you get at both ends? Send a messenger line inside, in case as Dennis 
notes, something goes wrong. Then you at least still have the route through 
everything.

Jon Tebbens

78 Mega

Katherine 

 

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023, 08:23 Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

You're only going to get one shot if you tape it.  If the tape comes loose, 
you're cooked.

 

Get a barb coupling to attach old and new.  Here's one for $4.

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo-1-1-2-in-Dia-Coupling-Plastic-Coil-Fitting/50139874?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-ggl-_-LIA_PLB_142_Pipe-Fittings-_-50139874-_-local-_-0-_-0
 

 
=CjwKCAjws7WkBhBFEiwAIi1680hoQW5cUM-vsn1Qkn8Mh-5UhPWCTc9U6OJVbIBSCpY5ARYoquIxVxoCf18QAvD_BwE=aw.ds

 

Here's one for $1

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo-ABTC112/5012921827?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-ggl-_-LIA_PLB_142_Pipe-Fittings-_-5012921827-_-local-_-0-_-0
 

 
=CjwKCAjws7WkBhBFEiwAIi16800FEoXFeltqhJ37vlca3Tdpk9gCAWklW6mYWJsrMFeEuRip7Fqg_BoCEFsQAvD_BwE=aw.ds

 

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:55 AM nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I need to replace the diesel fill hose which is routed behind cabinetry and 
wanted to ask the list for some suggestions for pulling the new hose.  [I found 
diesel in the bilge and believe the 36+ yo fill hose is the culprit – if should 
be replaced anyway.]  From the tank, the hose 

Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

A piece of a plastic bag tied to a string, then sucked with a shop vac
works well, I would be concerned that cotton could get wet and not be
effective. We used the bag method often for sucking a string through up to
300' of conduit underground.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Halcyon Passage
https://www.facebook.com/halcyonpassage
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35* (for sale)*
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 4:25 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I meant "golf" ball
>
>
>
> Sent from my Android-based can on a string
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> Date: 2023-06-17 14:31 (GMT-05:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement
>
> A hold ball with a string (and a shopvac) is also a good option
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> Sent from my Android-based can on a string
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
> Date: 2023-06-17 11:26 (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement
>
> Thank you all for the suggestions.  Using a coupler is a great idea, and
> have sourced one locally from HD, at an exorbitant price, $10.  None of the
> local Lowes, WM or marine stores had any in stock and this project will be
> attempted tomorrow, so no time for shipping.
>
>
>
> Will try to run a string through the combined old and new hose, end to end
> as a backup / guide for this misadventure.  Another great idea.  Recall
> people using a cotton ball tied on the end of a string and a shop vac on
> the other end to pull it through; hopefully that works. Will tape the two
> hoses / coupler with duct tape [like 5200, not something I like on board]
> to hopefully secure it.  There is no room for hose clamps.  The Mrs has
> been Shanghaied into helping, and will have handy what is called the
> “Profanisaurus” on another sailing list.
>
>
>
> I will post how it goes….
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Tebbens via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 17, 2023 8:31 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Jonathan Tebbens 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Diesel Fill Hose Replacement
>
>
>
> Can you get at both ends? Send a messenger line inside, in case as Dennis
> notes, something goes wrong. Then you at least still have the route through
> everything.
>
> Jon Tebbens
>
> 78 Mega
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023, 08:23 Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> You're only going to get one shot if you tape it.  If the tape comes
> loose, you're cooked.
>
>
>
> Get a barb coupling to attach old and new.  Here's one for $4.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo-1-1-2-in-Dia-Coupling-Plastic-Coil-Fitting/50139874?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-ggl-_-LIA_PLB_142_Pipe-Fittings-_-50139874-_-local-_-0-_-0=CjwKCAjws7WkBhBFEiwAIi1680hoQW5cUM-vsn1Qkn8Mh-5UhPWCTc9U6OJVbIBSCpY5ARYoquIxVxoCf18QAvD_BwE=aw.ds
>
>
>
> Here's one for $1
>
>
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo-ABTC112/5012921827?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-ggl-_-LIA_PLB_142_Pipe-Fittings-_-5012921827-_-local-_-0-_-0=CjwKCAjws7WkBhBFEiwAIi16800FEoXFeltqhJ37vlca3Tdpk9gCAWklW6mYWJsrMFeEuRip7Fqg_BoCEFsQAvD_BwE=aw.ds
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:55 AM nausetbeach--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I need to replace the diesel fill hose which is routed behind cabinetry
> and wanted to ask the list for some suggestions for pulling the new hose.
> [I found diesel in the bilge and believe the 36+ yo fill hose is the
> culprit – if should be replaced anyway.]  From the tank, the hose passes
> through a ¾” (?) plywood with glass tabbing bulkhead next to the hull into
> a space which is inaccessible behind the ice box, makes a 90* turn up
> through a 1” plywood and Formica surface surrounding the icebox against the
> hull, then through another shelf to the fill fitting screwed into the deck.
>
>
>
> The 1 ½” diameter wire reinforced fuel rated hose is very stiff, and the
> holes through which it must pass are quite tight.  Am guessing that holds
> the hose in place and minimizes chafe from vibrations.  There are no wire
> ties or similar securing the hose that I can see – cannot see behind the
> icebox with the old hose in place.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on how best to pull it through the bulkhead and bending it to
> go up through the shelving?  I have a heat gun and will soften the hose to
> hopefully make it somewhat more pliable, but guiding it through the
> inaccessible space to and through the first shelving is the big challenge.
>
>
>
> Ideas so far:  taping the end of the new hose to the old and pulling it
> [am not confident that would be strong enough] or use 3 or 4 strings
> through small holes punched in the old hose as messengers [taped as well]
> to pull new hose.  Would cut off a bit of hose where the holes would be
> punched in the new