Stus-List Re: Insurance for larger boat - 15 foot increase maximum?

2023-07-17 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
When we purchased our 1956 Matthews 42 with twin 454 gas V8 engines we had 
difficulty obtaining insurance at any cost. After a haul-out survey, drawn 
fasteners, and certifying the survey findings we got to my qualifications to 
own and operate the vessel.

The insurance company that was most promising asked about my ownership and 
experience operating/navigating similar size vessels. They also asked about 
what training/education related to boat operation I had competed.

Fortunately, I had all those bases covered and we were able to bind coverage.  
The cost is 4X what we pay for Calypso.  We were expecting 3X, hoping for 2X.

I expect newbies, possibly during COVID buying more boat than they could handle 
along with high payouts from storm damage is driving insurance companies out of 
the market.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43

Greta
1956 Matthews 42
Port Ludlow

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 4:49 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for larger boat - 15 foot increase maximum?

Still haven't gotten any more information on this.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 2:19 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
This is strange.  I was chatting with a friend who is looking for a larger boat 
(power).  He said a couple of insurance representatives and a knowledgeable 
broker told him he could not get insurance for a boat more than 15 feet longer 
than his existing boat unless he has a master's license.  Anybody else heard 
that?

Can't seem to find an answer on the internet.  And how does one buy a first 
boat if it's long?

He's okay because he is only moving from 23 feet to 37 feet.  He has taken the 
Power Squadron course and said that didn't matter.

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Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Insurance for larger boat - 15 foot increase maximum?

2023-07-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Still haven't gotten any more information on this.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 2:19 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> This is strange.  I was chatting with a friend who is looking for a larger
> boat (power).  He said a couple of insurance representatives and a
> knowledgeable broker told him he could not get insurance for a boat more
> than 15 feet longer than his existing boat unless he has a master's
> license.  Anybody else heard that?
>
> Can't seem to find an answer on the internet.  And how does one buy a
> first boat if it's long?
>
> He's okay because he is only moving from 23 feet to 37 feet.  He has taken
> the Power Squadron course and said that didn't matter.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
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Stus-List Re: C&C34 Yanmar 3GM 20hp Exhaust Elbow

2023-07-17 Thread s/v Prime Interest via CnC-List
Some years ago I ordered the non-Yanmar non-ss version of the mixing elbow
with intentions to install it using the old engine fitting and coupling. I
was having a new problem with the engine slowing when engaging the drive and
thought some obstruction might be impacting the engine. Not wanting to spend
extra time trying to separate the coupling and the exhaust fitting from the
elbow I decided to order all the components from HDI. The process was quick
and easy on my LF38 with a 3HM and V-drive as the exhaust is the most
accessible part of the engine. Unbolting it all along with the exhaust hose
from the muffler took about 10 minutes. The hose had to be cut off from the
elbow which was fine as I was replacing the 2' section to the muffle anyway.
The hardest part was wrestling with the new exhaust hose to mould it back to
route to the muffler. 

 

The old elbow was at least 15 seasons old but had no external leaks or rust.
Examining it I would guess it to be 50% constricted for both the water and
exhaust outlets. The engine side fitting only had a bit of soot inside and
rusting at the coupling. The engine fitting would certainly be usable, but I
have yet to try to separate the 3 parts. In the end it didn't make any
difference to my engine struggling when in gear as that turned out to be the
feathering prop not fully flattening to the setting. 

 

 

Ed Vanderkruk

Prime Interest LF38

Toronto, Canada

 

From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List  
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 7:13 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman 
Subject: Stus-List C&C34 Yanmar 3GM 20hp Exhaust Elbow

 

Hello Yanmar 3GM owners,

I need to replace the U-type mixing elbow and exhaust elbow assembly on my
3GM 20hp.  If this topic has been discussed here previously, my apologies --
I attempted a search of the archives but not sure I am conducting the search
correctly.

There seems to be debate about stainless steel vs cast iron and welded SS vs
cast SS.  There is a complete SS kit at
https://hdimarine.net/product/gm-kit/ that appears to be high quality and
reasonably priced (for a boat part...).  I will be grateful for any advice
on source for the exhaust elbow/mixing elbow and cast iron vs SS vs cast SS.
Also, advice regarding the replacement job as I will do this myself.
Thanks.

Jeff Laman

1981 C&C34 Harmony

Ludington, MI

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Stus-List C&C34 Yanmar 3GM 20hp Exhaust Elbow

2023-07-17 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
I replaced my mixing elbow several years ago on my Yanmar 2 GMF which 
was not a fun task.  The mixing elbow was attached to (threaded into) 
the exhaust flange and both had to be removed.  The mixing elbow could 
not be rotated to be removed while the exhaust flange was attached to 
the engine with four (4) long bolts.
Once both were removed, the job of separating the mixing elbow from the 
exhaust flange was relatively easy.put the exhaust flange in a large 
vice and unscrewed the mixing elbow.
Screwed the new mixing elbow to the exhaust flange and was ready to put 
them back on the engine.  Sounds easy but not so much.  Both together 
were heavy and working in the engine compartment with virtually one hand 
(left hand and I am right handed) was a challenge.
In order to place the 2 components back onto the engine I got two (2) 
identical bolts to the four (4) and cut the heads ofI screwed the 
two (2) bolts diagonally into the side of the engine...I was then able 
to slide the combined mixing elbow/exhaust flange onto the two (2) bolts 
as the heads were removed.
It was then a matter of screwing 2 of the 4 original bolts into place, 
unscrewing the 2 duds and inserting the remaining original 2 bolts.
If the job was done on a work bench, it would be no big deal but doing 
it in the engine compartment lying on your side was a challenge I would 
not to repeat.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2023-07-16 10:29 p.m., ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote:
I replaced mine after discovering a pinhole in the mixing elbow. It 
was corroded so badly that I couldn't remove it from the piece it was 
attached to, even heating it with a torch and using a five foot piece 
of pipe on a wrench for leverage. I removed both pieces together 
(easy) and replaced them with cast iron items. I was able to salvage 
the nipple.


Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



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