Stus-List Re: Racor 500MA question
A bit off topic, but related as long as we are talking about clogged Racors. When I installed a Racor 500 on my boat last year, I added an Across Ocean Systems (AOS) fuel pressure sensor on the intake line between the Racor and the tank. It sends the data to my Raymarine chartplotter over Seatalk ng and so I can see the pressure at the helm. I had to tweak the settings because it reports negative pressure and the Raymarine can't display that, but by putting in an offset, it now reports 5 psi normally and as that approaches zero it means the filter is getting clogged. I am very happy with the result because getting a visual on the standard gauge on top of the Racor is a PITA on my boat. Dave https://acrossoceansystems.com/index.php/shop/ Shop acrossoceansystems.com S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Racor 500MA question
Aside from replacing the Racor filter regularly, I think it’s a good idea to drain the bowl when you change the filter. I usually change this filter yearly when I change the fuel filters on my Beta 28.But it is possible for gunk to build up in the bowl which is mostly transparent but can cause fuel issues. I discovered this during a ‘fuel adventure’ a few years ago when I was investigating repeated engine stalls during a long motoring from Ocracoke back to Oriental. I tried to drain the bowl (with the top off and filter out) and nothing came out the drain. Only after I plunged a screwdriver up thru the clogged drain did I get it to drain. The clog was apparently just congealed fuel/dirt but you could not see it thru the clear bowl since it was mostly transparent and was not obvious compared to the diesel fuel color. FWIW, I now at least check that fuel will flow out the drain during a filter change. Charlie Nelson1995 C 36XL/kcb Water Phantom Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, April 26, 2024, 2:39 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: When the engine is not running, vacuum still sometimes shows. When I remove the gauge, it should drop to zero. It's on my list to verify that. I plan to spend a bit of time investigating this.-- Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:03 PM Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote: Dennis, I didn't know there was a check valve in the filter. Since I have 2 Racor filters I put a tee and gauge in the fuel line after the filters. I have not noticed the gauge acting strange. But then I don't look at it often. You might try relocating the gauge. I would think that once the engine is not longer sucking fuel the gauge should go back to zero. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: C 40 Review
We did have fun. My boys are still using Corsair on occasion. But keeping it to sail twice a year is a bit nuts. From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 1:41 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40 Review David, We had many of good battles with Corsair when I sailed on Zoomer, another great C 40. I miss those days. Looking back, it was 15 years since we did our last Vineyard Round the Island race on Zoomer. Someone told me she’s now in Newport RI but never confirmed.. Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram,MA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2024, at 11:25 AM, David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: That is Corsair. Now located on Long Island and is for sale. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 11:16 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>> Subject: Stus-List C 40 Review Nice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40 https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSail Bill Coleman Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: C 40 Review
Saw the article .. great review Is Corsair listed on any web-site anywhere? From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Date: Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:16 AMTo: Stus-List Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List C 40 ReviewNice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40 https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSail Bill ColemanPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Racor 500MA question
When the engine is not running, vacuum still sometimes shows. When I remove the gauge, it should drop to zero. It's on my list to verify that. I plan to spend a bit of time investigating this. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:03 PM Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dennis, > I didn't know there was a check valve in the filter. > Since I have 2 Racor filters I put a tee and gauge in the fuel line after > the filters. I have not noticed the gauge acting strange. But then I don't > look at it often. You might try relocating the gauge. > I would think that once the engine is not longer sucking fuel the gauge > should go back to zero. > > > > Douglas Mountjoy > 1988 C LF 39 > Mexico at large > 1984 Sabre 34 > Port Orchard, WA > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Mast step fun
Interesting -- thanks! From: Nathan Post Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 2:06 PM To: Matthew Wolford Cc: Stus-List Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Mast step fun It is where the stainless steel tube that supports the table on mounts into it. Nathan Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Mast step fun
It is where the stainless steel tube that supports the table on mounts into it. Nathan Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: C 40 Review
David, We had many of good battles with Corsair when I sailed on Zoomer, another great C 40. I miss those days. Looking back, it was 15 years since we did our last Vineyard Round the Island race on Zoomer. Someone told me she’s now in Newport RI but never confirmed.. Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram,MA Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2024, at 11:25 AM, David Risch via CnC-List > wrote: > > > That is Corsair. Now located on Long Island and is for sale. > > From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 11:16 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Bill Coleman > Subject: Stus-List C 40 Review > > Nice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40 > > https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSail > > > Bill Coleman > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Racor 500MA question
Dennis, I didn't know there was a check valve in the filter. Since I have 2 Racor filters I put a tee and gauge in the fuel line after the filters. I have not noticed the gauge acting strange. But then I don't look at it often. You might try relocating the gauge. I would think that once the engine is not longer sucking fuel the gauge should go back to zero. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 08:54 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Touche' has a Racor 500MA with the Racor vacuum gauge in place of the > T-handle. See: > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pe9zcl-E0aQRl-Cu9cW8VqpeLEo9Gek3/view?usp=sharing > > During a cruise to the Mississippi Coast last week, the needle sneaked > into the red. It's done this before. Bleeding it by lifting the little > rubber seal on top will reset it to the white zone. It gradually sneaks > back into the red zone. I don't believe the element is becoming blinded. > > However, I decided to change the element anyway after only 50 hours. The > element looked very clean. > > The gauge is still behaving the same with the brand new element. > > I have no reason to suspect pluggage in the pickup tube. Touche's fuel > has always been very, very clean. But I'll check it anyway. > > Internet research has pointed me towards the ball check valve in the > Racor. Here's a schematic: > > > https://www.maesco.com/products/racor/r_tbn_intro/r_tbn_assm500ma/r_tbn_assm500ma.html > > My question - has any lister taken a 500MA apart and examined the check > valve? If so, what did you find? > > I will be on the boat next week exploring the fuel system and all the > usual suspect causes upstream of the Racor. > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Racor 500MA question
Touche' has a Racor 500MA with the Racor vacuum gauge in place of the T-handle. See: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pe9zcl-E0aQRl-Cu9cW8VqpeLEo9Gek3/view?usp=sharing During a cruise to the Mississippi Coast last week, the needle sneaked into the red. It's done this before. Bleeding it by lifting the little rubber seal on top will reset it to the white zone. It gradually sneaks back into the red zone. I don't believe the element is becoming blinded. However, I decided to change the element anyway after only 50 hours. The element looked very clean. The gauge is still behaving the same with the brand new element. I have no reason to suspect pluggage in the pickup tube. Touche's fuel has always been very, very clean. But I'll check it anyway. Internet research has pointed me towards the ball check valve in the Racor. Here's a schematic: https://www.maesco.com/products/racor/r_tbn_intro/r_tbn_assm500ma/r_tbn_assm500ma.html My question - has any lister taken a 500MA apart and examined the check valve? If so, what did you find? I will be on the boat next week exploring the fuel system and all the usual suspect causes upstream of the Racor. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Mast step fun
That does sound like a challenging project Matt. Interesting that your mast step bent - my casting cracked in two around the keel bolt. However I don't have the stringer setup you do - it looks like it is just solid fiberglass with filler under the mast on my 34. Not the same part but I just designed a replacement mast step for my C 34 and had it machined from 6061 T6 aluminum by xometry. Photo of finished part: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8GVyzAsBASdW8MuP7 It was about $700 including shipping (made in the US) which wasn't too bad as a one-off. The design is here in on-shape if anyone wants to copy it: https://cad.onshape.com/documents/06778e11eadafc92b785b709/w/b7bc0fda88594aa1bd5a947b/e/dbcde4431b1a8f7be673194e It is based closely on the original casting dimensions but designed so that it will not collect water anywhere. I figure out of 6061 it will be stronger than the original casting (which had cracked) and should last another 40+ years if I bed it properly with filled epoxy so that it doesn't have large bending loads applied. Nathan ~~~ Nathan Post S/V Wisper 1981 C KCB Portland ME Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: C 40 Review
That is Corsair. Now located on Long Island and is for sale. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 11:16 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List C 40 Review Nice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40 https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSail Bill Coleman Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List C 40 Review
Nice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40 https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSail Bill Coleman Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Mystery Leak
Lloyd, are the Dorade vents on your 39 the typical C the long molded in boxes or a separate box mounted on the deck? THanks Richard 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255 On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 06:39:10 PM EDT, Lloyd Lippe via CnC-List wrote: Had a similar leak on my LF39.I removed and capped off the dorads...so far seems to have worked. Lloyd Lippe On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 12:37 PM Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote: John, o had a similar leak on my LG 39. It turned out to be a hatch on the deck. The previous owner had put a container in a cabinet to catch the water. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 09:31 John McCrea via CnC-List wrote: Hey Listers, Our 36-1 has had mystery leak since we owned her, and it only shows up in heavy rain. On the port side main cabin water is coming down the enclosed molded ceiling headliner that butts against the forward teak bulkhead just forward of the chainplates. It is a completely in accessible so short of starting to cut apart the ceiling I cannot find the source. So far, I have: - Removed and rebedded the chainplates, though it is not coming from that area it is above and forward. - New handrails and re-cored deck where wet. Have access to all fasteners and they are dry. - Removed all winches etc around mast area, ran all lines back and redid decks. - Rebedded mast collar where it meets the deck. - Resealed around the bulkhead stainless tang that has the small stainless plate on deck. So, my only two intrusions that are in that area are the mast itself and the above mentioned stainless tab. Somehow water finds a pathway in the enclosed ceiling and dumps right into the port side shelf. If my wife happens to be sleeping in that berth at the time you can guess what happens next. With all the heavy rain last year it was constantly wet. What I have not done is to add more sealant to the deck fasteners that hold the mast collar in, but they look well sealed. I think I am going to remove the tang plate completely and redo that. Will double up on the mast bedding at the deck seam and the fasteners. Any suggestions are welcomed! John McCrea Talisman 1979 36-1 Mystic, CT 06355 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
