Stus-List Material choice & Sources for clear hatch boards

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Good day all,

*FIREFLY *is in need of a hatch board upgrade from her one piece solid wood
slab.
Looking to move back to a 3 part style with (at least) 1 part made of a
clear(ish) plastic.

The question to the group is who has used what type of plastic and how have
they held up.
(Plexiglass vs lexan vs ?)

And associated, who has a good source for the material ?

I have the ability to shape / cut / etc so I don't need a finished product,
simply raw stock material.
Thanks in advance for the input!

Respectfully, Karl

Karl Kuzis
*FIREFLY - *C 29 Mk 1
karl.ku...@gmail.com
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Stus-List Re: raw water filter set up for C 35 MkI

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

I would be interested in the pictures as well. I have parts but haven't
pulled the trigger on creative A4 intake plumbing yet.

Karl Kuzis
Firefly C 29

On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 6:41 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi Eddie,
>
> I did it to my mark I within the last three years. Nearly 50 years without
> one but I'm glad i did it. If I don't have any pictures I can take some
> next weekend for you.
>
> Bob
> Mystic
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> On 04/08/2024 9:00 AM EDT Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
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> Hello everyone,
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> I was wondering whether anyone has installed a water intake filter system
> for the raw water intake on an atomic 4.  Specifically, the water thru haul
> is pretty close to the water pump hook up and any filter that is not an
> inline filter would require some right angles on the plumbing.
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Stus-List Any thoughts (experience) on trailering?

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Looking at Richard's photos from moving his 34cb to the shop got me
thinking.

Firefly is a C 29 Mk1 with extended keel which is lake locked 3 hrs away.
We have been considering moving her closer to home, back to the Columbia
River. As previously mentioned she is due for hull paint (or wrap) as well
as bottom inspection,  paint etc.

So the choices become hire a boat mover, or obtain a suitable trailer
(rental or buy). I have plenty of trailer-tow experience just not with a
29ft fixed keel sailboat.

The question to the group is: Any insights, experience or thoughts on 29
trailering?


All comments, stories and discussion welcome!


Karl and Doris Kuzis
Firefly, C 29 Mk1
karl.ku...@gmail.com
Cell (360) 606-2099
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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

The reviews I have seen on YouTube for cruising boats seem positive.
Lifespan 10+ years, straight forward patch and repair and peel off removal.

Being a traditionalist, I had been hesitant to consider wraps but am
digging deeper as the pros seem to outweigh the cons, esp here in N. Idaho
where painters and working yards are sparce but there are vehicle wrappers
who have some boat wrapping experience. (Fred don't judge us, it's a BIG
lake).

Still weighing options as we are a couple of years (unless an option
becomes obvious)

Karl Kuzis
Firefly
C 29 Mk1
karl.ku...@gmail.com
Cell (360) 606-2099

On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 8:48 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As a follow up to Bill's questions about the wrapswhat is their life
> expectancy? What happens when you get into a dispute with a dock piling and
> the piling wins(don't ask how I know)...thanks!
>
> Richard
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:39:47 AM EDT, Bill Coleman via
> CnC-List  wrote:
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> Those Wraps are intriguing, does anyone know what is involved in removing
> them?
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:43 PM Karl Erickson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> A dock neighbor had just 1973 C$C 33 wrapped last year. Half the cost and
> it looks awesome. His name and the C stripe was part of it.
>
> Karl Erickson
>
> On Aug 22, 2023, at 4:02 PM, Karl Kuzis via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Another random idea
>
> Could  you consider a vinyl wrap?
>
> Firefly has the Red paint job from 1977ish and is umm showing her age.
> So while looking at painting we also started looking at options.
> The vinyl wrap is about half the paint cost and decent life span and
> repairable.
>
> For us, either is a couple of years off but does the group have any input
> or experience?
>
> Karl & Doris Kuzis
> C 29 Mk 1 - Firefly
>
> George Cone
>
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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Another random idea

Could  you consider a vinyl wrap?

Firefly has the Red paint job from 1977ish and is umm showing her age.
So while looking at painting we also started looking at options.
The vinyl wrap is about half the paint cost and decent life span and
repairable.

For us, either is a couple of years off but does the group have any input
or experience?

Karl & Doris Kuzis
C 29 Mk 1 - Firefly


On Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 1:21 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That stuff won't fit on the new boat??
>
> On Aug 22, 2023 3:04 PM, George Cone via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I’m wrong again, it is custom gelcoat, made by Fibre Glast Developments
> Corp – we used their color chart to get the color
>
>
>
> I’ll forward a photo of the can later.
>
>
>
> I have all sorts of sheet, spinnaker sheets , sails spinnakers available
> also.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
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> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2023 2:09 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Hull painting
>
>
>
> What kind of paint?
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Erie PA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 1:34 PM George Cone via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> One detail, I have / had a 1981 c  40 white, I had a quart of special
> paint made to do some patching. Unfortunately the boat was hit by lightning
> before the 4th of July so I have no further need for the paint, $20.00
> and it is yours!
>
>
>
> The boat was totaled due to hull penetrations
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Cone
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Stus-List Engine strangeness x 2

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Since we are on stories of oddness I have 2.

First, when cruising along at modest rpm, will have a sudden shut down.
Just off. No change in sound, smell, rpm, etc just as if ignition switch
cut out. Suspecting a loose connection I proofed all wires / connections
and we'll test it out cruising around next week. Any odd ideas to keep in
mind?

Second, episodically when motoring at higher rpm close to hull speed will
have a sudden racing of the engine with loss of power. Pull back throttle,
and goes back to normal but not unusual to reoccur. Haven't noticed it at
lower speed or rpm.
I'm suspicious of cavitation but haven't thought it thru as to causes,
tests of theory, remedies or other options. Thoughts?

C 29 Mark 1 with a recently rebuilt Atomic 4 and 2 bade folding prop.

Karl Kuzis
Firefly
C Mk1
karl.ku...@gmail.com

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 3:18 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Scary stuff. Frustrating when "professionals" muck things up.
>
>
> Get Outlook for Android 
> --
> *From:* Todd Williams via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2023 6:40:52 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Todd Williams 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Engine strangeness
>
> Jon and others,
>
> Until two years ago, my boat also used to stall in idle when approaching
> docks. Then, midway across Lake Ontario from Cape Vincent to Sodus on a
> calm day the fresh water pump/antifreeze circulator seized up. There was
> melting belt rubber with smoke as the bearings stopped turning. Five days
> and $56 later I had a new antifreeze circulator in place and we haven’t
> stalled out since. The friction in the bearings were enough to strain the
> engine into a stall.
>
> TODD
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 7:26 PM JP Mail via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Previous boat
> ‘79 Nicholson 303
> Yanmar 2qm15
> 320 hrs.
>
> Starts and runs all day. Slowing while approaching a dock-stalls.
> Change filters, check for loose fuel lines, change crush washers…..
> Approaching a dock….stall. Always while slowing down.
> Approaching the fuel dock at Dodson’s was told “I’m going there!” By the
> nice man on his Hinckley.  My response, “Sorry,(engine stalls) I am.
> The fuel pickup was at the forward end of the cylindrical tank. When I
> slowed, all the crud would slosh forward and block the pickup causing a
> stall.
> Unfortunately the yard cleaned the tank and replaced it. they also
> inadvertently punctured it and diesel would run out the bottom. Found this
> out after a day sailing. Back to the yard and a new tank was installed.
> Unfortunately they inadvertently severed the propane line while cutting a
> 2” hole in a bulkhead to run a new vent line. It was obscured by the
> insulation. Found this out when it blew up. With 2 of us onboard. ‘Nother
> story. I’m sure I told it here at some point.
> Jon Pratt
> Hideaway 35-3
> Stamford CT
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Stus-List Re: Tuning questions - now Loos gauge accuracy

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the input!

Two comments this morning.
1 The cncphotoalbum site appears down, anyone have insight?  or a copy of
the tuning article?

2 In some boats (thinking cal 20) leaving lowers loose and uppers just snug
allowed the rig to bend to leeward and actually improve upwind speed
without poor pointing.  Not sure how the aerodynamics of all that works but
sure helped racing. Most of the cal 20 race crews actually removed the aft
lowers.

as we aren't racing our CnC29 I'm tuning for safety and somewhat
performance so all input is still welcome!

Respectfully, Karl

Karl Kuzis
C 29 Mk1 Firefly


On Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 12:25 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looser than what?
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:17 PM John Irvin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Some interesting thoughts here. Looser tuning tends to be faster, in my
>> opinion (C 27-III)
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows
>>
>>
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>> *From: *Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>> *Sent: *October 20, 2022 9:45 AM
>> *To: *Stus-List 
>> *Cc: *Dennis C. 
>> *Subject: *Stus-List Tuning questions - now Loos gauge accuracy
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm.  Didn't think Loos gauges were terribly inaccurate.  Now I question
>> them.  Found this article:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://l-36.com/loosaccuracy.php
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Guess a good rule is to use the same gauge only to return your rig to
>> settings based on your experience on the water.
>>
>>
>>
>> I might borrow a neighbor's gauge and compare it to mine.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dennis C.
>>
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 7:55 PM Doug Robinson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> YO;
>>
>> It has been our observation that the Loos gauge readings are relative
>> and not specific, our gauge will not match yours.  But if you  use my
>> gauge (or yours) and measure my rig you can use the same gauge to return
>> to your boat and match settings.   We could be wrong in this.
>>
>> One of those races where we interchange crew members, Chris Doyle from
>> Skip Doyle's boat Rocking Chair was delegated to our boat...first thing
>> he did was to loosen the rig and we did well. Wish we had kept those
>> settings, I think we sail to tight.
>>
>> Doug Robinson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

Stus-List C 29 Mk1 tuning questions

[Karl Kuzis via CnC-List]

Hello all,

We are new owners of Hull#45 "Firefly" and I am interested in hearing if
any one has a set of starting rig tension measurements you could share.

Loos Gauge numbers would be great.

Just replaced the headstay due to wire damage I found under the foil.
(Wanted to avoid burying bad wire under the new roller furling). Now
working on retuning the rig.

All insight and experience sharing welcome!

Respectfully, Karl

Karl & Doris Kuzis
C 29 Mk1 "Firefly"