Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
Removed rudder nut yesterday. Simple process - support rudder by stacking blocks under rudder / remove locking allen screws / remove nut (used filter wrench with good results). Simple delrin washer between nut and mounting plate on cockpit floor. Inspection shows lots of crud, scratches on washer from said crud with some build up (after 30+ years seems reasonable). Apparently this cause seal to fail, allowing water / rain to leak in. Fix is to clean / polish nut and plate, new washer and reassemble. Hopefully that will do it. Stay tuned. John From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John and Maryann Read via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 11:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John and Maryann Read Subject: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group? Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement? TIA John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
Thanks Bill – grease is not the issue – everything functions just fine and yes have a hydraulic hose going to the grease fitting – issue is water / rain leaking in John From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing When was last time you put grease in the cup on the shaft log? If you don't have play in the rudder shaft, this may be your problem. I am sure you know there is a grease cup on the shaft log where it comes through thhe hull. Use Green Grease, a waterproof grease. Fill the cup, tighten to force grease into shaft, turn wheel back and forth, repeat until you see new grease being forced out the top of rudder shaft log. Good two person job as crawling in and out of that area of bilge can be tough. Hope this helps. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Michigan _ On Saturday, November 16, 2019 John and Maryann Read via CnC-List wrote: Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group? Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement? TIA John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List 34 Rudder shaft bearing
I had a similar problem with water pooling around the rudder shaft bearing. When I went to upgrade the starting pedestal (Edson Vision II) I found that the cockpit sole was water saturated and delaminated. The solution was to cut out a 2' x 2.5' section and replace it with marine plywood that was vacuum bagged in place. This includes reinstalling the top rudder bearing and refinishing the whole cockpit sole with non skid. The yard did the work...For about $3,600. They did a great jobone that really needed to be done. No more pooling around the post. And the pedestal is beautiful :-)Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria"Summer- Racine. WIWinter- Waukegan, IL___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
John,
SORRY,now I understand, water leaking down into your bilge through the
rudder post fitting..
Duh.
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Thanks Bill – grease is not the issue – everything functions just fine and yes
have a hydraulic hose going to the grease fitting – issue is water / rain
leaking in
John
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM
WALKER via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: WILLIAM WALKER
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
When was last time you put grease in the cup on the shaft log? If you don't
have play in the rudder shaft, this may be your problem. I am sure you know
there is a grease cup on the shaft log where it comes through thhe hull. Use
Green Grease, a waterproof grease. Fill the cup, tighten to force grease into
shaft, turn wheel back and forth, repeat until you see new grease being forced
out the top of rudder shaft log. Good two person job as crawling in and out of
that area of bilge can be tough.
Hope this helps.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Michigan
On Saturday, November 16, 2019 John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
wrote:
Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no
play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am
suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is
degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or
just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group?
Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement?
TIA
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT
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Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
Thanks Bill – grease is not the issue – everything functions just fine and yes have a hydraulic hose going to the grease fitting – issue is water / rain leaking in John From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing When was last time you put grease in the cup on the shaft log? If you don't have play in the rudder shaft, this may be your problem. I am sure you know there is a grease cup on the shaft log where it comes through thhe hull. Use Green Grease, a waterproof grease. Fill the cup, tighten to force grease into shaft, turn wheel back and forth, repeat until you see new grease being forced out the top of rudder shaft log. Good two person job as crawling in and out of that area of bilge can be tough. Hope this helps. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Michigan _ On Saturday, November 16, 2019 John and Maryann Read via CnC-List wrote: Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group? Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement? TIA John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
When was last time you put grease in the cup on the shaft log? If you don't have play in the rudder shaft, this may be your problem. I am sure you know there is a grease cup on the shaft log where it comes through thhe hull. Use Green Grease, a waterproof grease. Fill the cup, tighten to force grease into shaft, turn wheel back and forth, repeat until you see new grease being forced out the top of rudder shaft log. Good two person job as crawling in and out of that area of bilge can be tough. Hope this helps. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Michigan On Saturday, November 16, 2019 John and Maryann Read via CnC-List wrote: Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group? Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement? TIA John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List 34 rudder shaft bearing
Our rudder shaft leaks where it passes through the cockpit floor. There is no play in the rudder, doughnut nut is snug and everything functions normally. Am suspecting the delrin (?) thrust washer / bearing under the doughnut nut is degraded after almost 30 years. Not sure if is a thrust bearing with flange or just a washer. Before I start disassembling any thoughts from the group? Also, any suggestions on where to obtain a replacement? TIA John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
