Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
My anchor locker lid on my LF38 is cored and it uses piano hinges. So, in 1983 that was the standard in the Rhode Island plant. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame > On Dec 23, 2015, at 12:20 AM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List > wrote: > > Patrick, I redid my anchor locker hatch and don't remember any coring. Except > on the hatch its self. I cut the hatch in half when I installed my windlass. > I have 2 strap hinges on each half, with each one opening outboard. > > Doug Mountjoy > svPegasus > LF38 > just west of Ballard, WA. > > > -- Original message-- > From: Patrick Davin via CnC-List > Date: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 10:54 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; > Cc: Patrick Davin; > Subject:Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment > > Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid > attachment. > > C&C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they > thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid > hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because several > screws have pulled out and there are rust stains. The surprise was it looks > like the 15-20 screws for the hinge went into wood coring. Screws in wood > core, in the wettest part of the boat! (the foredeck takes the most waves, > and when at dock it's always humid from rain) > > Pictures: > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing > > Has anyone else redone their anchor locker hinge? Can you confirm that it's > cored, or am I on the crazy pills? > > The reason I suspected core in the first place is that the lid hinge is about > 1" outside of the deck area where all fiberglass was used along the toe rail. > Tap testing / sounding doesn't reveal any significant differences, so I think > the issue is very contained, surprisingly. It seems like if they had made the > anchor locker an inch or so wider, they wouldn't have had to screw in to > coring - but maybe the fiberglass layer isn't thick enough to fit the screws. > Anyway, I'm thinking ream out some core from each hole, dry it out for 3-7 > days (which may not be doable till the summer), fill with thickened epoxy and > redrill. > > -Patrick > 1984 C&C Landfall 38 > Seattle, WA > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment Landfall 38
Maybe other LF38 owners could confirm, but all other LF38 anchor locker lid attachments I have seen photos of use SS strap hinges. - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Dec 22, 2015, at 9:12 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 22:11:48 -0400 > From: Graham Collins <mailto:cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment > Message-ID: <mailto:blu436-smtp121da5febb0e826faca7bb6d8...@phx.gbl>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > My anchor locker and cockpit lockers are piano hinged, factory original. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > On 2015-12-22 9:24 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List wrote: >> Patrick, >> >> I don?t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C&C. >> I have 6? SS strap hinges which are bolted through the cover and the >> deck. I replaced mine old broken hinges with new ones, overfilling >> the old holes with thickened epoxy and re-drilling as typically >> suggested. No problems with leaks. Here?s a link to the hinge: >> http://www.marinepartdepot.com/hedustststhi2.html >> <http://www.marinepartdepot.com/hedustststhi2.html> ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
Paul, My 86 model has piano hinges everywhere on deck. Three cockpit lockers, the lazarette, and the anchor locker are all stainless piano hinges. Mine have loosened up over time and I have had to repair and tighten each of them. Adding some epoxy filler really helps the small screws get a bite. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dreuge via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 20:25 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dreuge Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment Patrick, I don’t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C&C. I have 6” SS strap hinges which are bolted through the cover and the deck. I replaced mine old broken hinges with new ones, overfilling the old holes with thickened epoxy and re-drilling as typically suggested. No problems with leaks. Here’s a link to the hinge: http://www.marinepartdepot.com/hedustststhi2.html - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
Patrick, I redid my anchor locker hatch and don't remember any coring. Except on the hatch its self. I cut the hatch in half when I installed my windlass. I have 2 strap hinges on each half, with each one opening outboard. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Patrick Davin via CnC-ListDate: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 10:54To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Patrick Davin;Subject:Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid attachment. C&C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because several screws have pulled out and there are rust stains. The surprise was it looks like the 15-20 screws for the hinge went into wood coring. Screws in wood core, in the wettest part of the boat! (the foredeck takes the most waves, and when at dock it's always humid from rain) Pictures: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing Has anyone else redone their anchor locker hinge? Can you confirm that it's cored, or am I on the crazy pills? The reason I suspected core in the first place is that the lid hinge is about 1" outside of the deck area where all fiberglass was used along the toe rail. Tap testing / sounding doesn't reveal any significant differences, so I think the issue is very contained, surprisingly. It seems like if they had made the anchor locker an inch or so wider, they wouldn't have had to screw in to coring - but maybe the fiberglass layer isn't thick enough to fit the screws. Anyway, I'm thinking ream out some core from each hole, dry it out for 3-7 days (which may not be doable till the summer), fill with thickened epoxy and redrill. -Patrick1984 C&C Landfall 38Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
My anchor locker and cockpit lockers are piano hinged, factory original. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2015-12-22 9:24 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List wrote: Patrick, I don’t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C&C. I have 6” SS strap hinges which are bolted through the cover and the deck. I replaced mine old broken hinges with new ones, overfilling the old holes with thickened epoxy and re-drilling as typically suggested. No problems with leaks. Here’s a link to the hinge: http://www.marinepartdepot.com/hedustststhi2.html - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ On Dec 22, 2015, at 3:16 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:53:04 -0800 From: Patrick Davin mailto:jda...@gmail.com>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Subject: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment Message-ID: <mailto:cahixy6qfgahgf78gdein7s-0npo5g5y7aulb77wsog1w6rs...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid attachment. C&C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because several screws have pulled out and there are rust stains. The surprise was it looks like the 15-20 screws for the hinge went into wood coring. Screws in wood core, in the wettest part of the boat! (the foredeck takes the most waves, and when at dock it's always humid from rain) Pictures: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing Has anyone else redone their anchor locker hinge? Can you confirm that it's cored, or am I on the crazy pills? The reason I suspected core in the first place is that the lid hinge is about 1" outside of the deck area where all fiberglass was used along the toe rail. Tap testing / sounding doesn't reveal any significant differences, so I think the issue is very contained, surprisingly. It seems like if they had made the anchor locker an inch or so wider, they wouldn't have had to screw in to coring - but maybe the fiberglass layer isn't thick enough to fit the screws. Anyway, I'm thinking ream out some core from each hole, dry it out for 3-7 days (which may not be doable till the summer), fill with thickened epoxy and redrill. -Patrick 1984 C&C Landfall 38 Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
Patrick, I don’t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C&C. I have 6” SS strap hinges which are bolted through the cover and the deck. I replaced mine old broken hinges with new ones, overfilling the old holes with thickened epoxy and re-drilling as typically suggested. No problems with leaks. Here’s a link to the hinge: http://www.marinepartdepot.com/hedustststhi2.html - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Dec 22, 2015, at 3:16 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:53:04 -0800 > From: Patrick Davin mailto:jda...@gmail.com>> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment > Message-ID: ><mailto:cahixy6qfgahgf78gdein7s-0npo5g5y7aulb77wsog1w6rs...@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid > attachment. > > C&C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they > thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid > hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because several > screws have pulled out and there are rust stains. The surprise was it looks > like the 15-20 screws for the hinge went into wood coring. Screws in wood > core, in the wettest part of the boat! (the foredeck takes the most waves, > and when at dock it's always humid from rain) > > Pictures: > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing > > <https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing> > > Has anyone else redone their anchor locker hinge? Can you confirm that it's > cored, or am I on the crazy pills? > > The reason I suspected core in the first place is that the lid hinge is > about 1" outside of the deck area where all fiberglass was used along the > toe rail. Tap testing / sounding doesn't reveal any significant > differences, so I think the issue is very contained, surprisingly. It seems > like if they had made the anchor locker an inch or so wider, they wouldn't > have had to screw in to coring - but maybe the fiberglass layer isn't thick > enough to fit the screws. Anyway, I'm thinking ream out some core from each > hole, dry it out for 3-7 days (which may not be doable till the summer), > fill with thickened epoxy and redrill. > > -Patrick > 1984 C&C Landfall 38 > Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment
Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid attachment. C&C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because several screws have pulled out and there are rust stains. The surprise was it looks like the 15-20 screws for the hinge went into wood coring. Screws in wood core, in the wettest part of the boat! (the foredeck takes the most waves, and when at dock it's always humid from rain) Pictures: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxfHpwssU_6NQThGM1AzTmxabU0&usp=sharing Has anyone else redone their anchor locker hinge? Can you confirm that it's cored, or am I on the crazy pills? The reason I suspected core in the first place is that the lid hinge is about 1" outside of the deck area where all fiberglass was used along the toe rail. Tap testing / sounding doesn't reveal any significant differences, so I think the issue is very contained, surprisingly. It seems like if they had made the anchor locker an inch or so wider, they wouldn't have had to screw in to coring - but maybe the fiberglass layer isn't thick enough to fit the screws. Anyway, I'm thinking ream out some core from each hole, dry it out for 3-7 days (which may not be doable till the summer), fill with thickened epoxy and redrill. -Patrick 1984 C&C Landfall 38 Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
