Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Thanks Edd, I appreciate the sentiment. On Saturday night, before the accident my wife and I were talking about heading down to see you and your boat. Maybe we'll make that come true! :) Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net On Monday, June 15, 2020, 1:51:36 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Bruce, So sorry to hear about the incident. Where will you get the repairs done? I’ve heard that Snead Island does good work, though a little on the pricey side. If during the repairs you find the need to do some 37+ sailing, let me know and let’s get together anytime. I’m planning to get the Enterprise hauled in the next few weeks to get air conditioning installed, but I don’t think that process will take more than a few days. All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:33 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Crunched dinghy davits - $2,000 in materials alone. Bent solar panels, $500, Trashed stern pulpit. I have no idea, but not cheap. Damaged bimini frame. Break in fiberglass on the stern near the swim ladder. So, I'm expecting it will be somewhere between $10,000 - $20,000, and labor down here isn't cheap. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" Date: 6/15/20 11:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? I have to ask how you got $20,000 in damage and no injuries. YIKES! Unless you are suing for emotion distress or something, you might end up getting paid out in full by the jetski place and not have a basis for suing. Make sure you keep up with your insurance company and how they are doing with the claim. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Bruce, So sorry to hear about the incident. Where will you get the repairs done? I’ve heard that Snead Island does good work, though a little on the pricey side. If during the repairs you find the need to do some 37+ sailing, let me know and let’s get together anytime. I’m planning to get the Enterprise hauled in the next few weeks to get air conditioning installed, but I don’t think that process will take more than a few days. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:33 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Crunched dinghy davits - $2,000 in materials alone. Bent solar panels, $500, Trashed stern pulpit. I have no idea, but not cheap. Damaged bimini frame. Break in fiberglass on the stern near the swim ladder. So, I'm expecting it will be somewhere between $10,000 - $20,000, and labor down here isn't cheap. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" Date: 6/15/20 11:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? I have to ask how you got $20,000 in damage and no injuries. YIKES! Unless you are suing for emotion distress or something, you might end up getting paid out in full by the jetski place and not have a basis for suing. Make sure you keep up with your insurance company and how they are doing with the claim. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Joe, In the accident which I described, my boat sustained literally no damage. No injuries. And the insurance pay out was $30k. Fortunately, we just renewed our policy and it appears that there has been no increase in the premium. Josh On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 11:08 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have to ask how you got $20,000 in damage and no injuries. YIKES! Unless > you are suing for emotion distress or something, you might end up getting > paid out in full by the jetski place and not have a basis for suing. Make > sure you keep up with your insurance company and how they are doing with > the claim. > > > > *Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I* > > *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>* > > > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *bwhitmore > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* bwhitmore > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? > > > > Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the > Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to > provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Agree with others, hopefully your insurance company is up on their Maritime Law, it can get really weird, and they will need a boni-fide maritime lawyer! Bill Coleman Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 10:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? Thankfully, we were not hurt, and the renters climbed back on the jetski and returned to the rental company. However, I want to recover the deductible and get anything depreciated repaid as well. Yes, I already have the insurer involved, and they will help, but I'm sufficiently angry with the rental company for not keeping them out of the deepwater channel I really want to go after them. We've had lots of close calls with their renters before, and I want to get them to tighten the training. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date: 6/15/20 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? A release of liability only means the renter won't sue the rental company. Notify your carrier and tell the rental company you want the name of their insurance company and that they are full of sh*t. I hope no one was hurt. Joel On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability. Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd parties. Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might help? Thank you! Bruce Whitmore 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis" Madeira Beach, FL Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Your insurance will be immensely helpful. Right, wrong, or otherwise they will ultimately make a decision that makes the most sense and they have an obligation to represent you. In principle you may not get exactly the solution you want but I can say with confidence that it will be a solution in everyone's interests. I was slipped sideways into another vessel's wooden bowsprit last year. I was not even making 0.25 knots which was actually part of the cause - little to no steerage. In getting off the sprit it kinda crushed and collapsed, the way 80 year old wood is prone to doing. The carpenter said, "Oh yeah a bowsprit that's easy! Low price would be about $3000. High price around $5000." When they came and inspected the vessel they walked away saying that the only proper repair would be to dig back and find solid wood but that the extent of the preexisting decay was unclear and a new low price was closer to $12k. The insurance assessor said the same thing. It's akin to an errant shopping cart knocking the bumper of off a historic vehicle. There was clearly an underlying problem. Is the offender responsible for cost of repair for pre-existing conditions, arguably no. Well ultimately my insurance company paid $30k! The boat had been purchased 8 years prior for $55k. The insurance company was as upset about it as I was and the other owner continued to accused everyone involved of a myriad of things, least of all not paying enough to compensate for the damages. In commiserating with the insurance adjuster he recognized the injustice but argues that wasting more time and resources was more costly than just paying out. Other boat owners approached me privately and supported me by saying that they had been worried about the condition of the damaged boat. They even suggested that the accident may very well have saved the owners life should he have attempted to sail the vessel only to have it collapse around him. Good luck, Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 11:02 bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: > Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the > Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to > provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > Original message > From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" > Date: 6/15/20 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: CnClist > Cc: "Dennis C." > Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? > > What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident > reports? If nothing, get something soon. > > Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.? > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Crunched dinghy davits - $2,000 in materials alone. Bent solar panels, $500, Trashed stern pulpit. I have no idea, but not cheap. Damaged bimini frame. Break in fiberglass on the stern near the swim ladder. So, I'm expecting it will be somewhere between $10,000 - $20,000, and labor down here isn't cheap. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" Date: 6/15/20 11:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? I have to ask how you got $20,000 in damage and no injuries. YIKES! Unless you are suing for emotion distress or something, you might end up getting paid out in full by the jetski place and not have a basis for suing. Make sure you keep up with your insurance company and how they are doing with the claim. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Because this was in navigable waters, admiralty law, not state law, controls. Joel On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:12 AM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Curious, shouldn't the insurance company handle that? > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:08 AM, Edward Levert via CnC-List > wrote: > In Louisiana, the vessel owner is responsible even if he was not operating > the vessel at the time. Find out if Florida has similar laws. The release > may not relieve the rental company of liability to you. > > Ed Levert > C 34 Briar Patch > New Orleans > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:02 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the > Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to > provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > Original message > From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" > Date: 6/15/20 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: CnClist > Cc: "Dennis C." > Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? > > What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident > reports? If nothing, get something soon. > > Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.? > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Curious, shouldn't the insurance company handle that? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:08 AM, Edward Levert via CnC-List wrote: In Louisiana, the vessel owner is responsible even if he was not operating the vessel at the time. Find out if Florida has similar laws. The release may not relieve the rental company of liability to you. Ed LevertC 34 Briar PatchNew Orleans On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:02 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" Date: 6/15/20 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) To: CnClist Cc: "Dennis C." Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident reports? If nothing, get something soon. Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.?-- Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
In Louisiana, the vessel owner is responsible even if he was not operating the vessel at the time. Find out if Florida has similar laws. The release may not relieve the rental company of liability to you. Ed Levert C 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:02 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the > Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to > provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > Original message > From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" > Date: 6/15/20 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: CnClist > Cc: "Dennis C." > Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? > > What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident > reports? If nothing, get something soon. > > Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.? > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
I have to ask how you got $20,000 in damage and no injuries. YIKES! Unless you are suing for emotion distress or something, you might end up getting paid out in full by the jetski place and not have a basis for suing. Make sure you keep up with your insurance company and how they are doing with the claim. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Yes, we will be getting reports from the Pinellas County Sheriff, the Treasure Island marine police, and even the bridge tender has agreed to provide a witness statement. We also have photos of the jetski riders. Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" Date: 6/15/20 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) To: CnClist Cc: "Dennis C." Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident reports? If nothing, get something soon. Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.?-- Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Thankfully, we were not hurt, and the renters climbed back on the jetski and returned to the rental company. However, I want to recover the deductible and get anything depreciated repaid as well. Yes, I already have the insurer involved, and they will help, but I'm sufficiently angry with the rental company for not keeping them out of the deepwater channel I really want to go after them.We've had lots of close calls with their renters before, and I want to get them to tighten the training.Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date: 6/15/20 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help? A release of liability only means the renter won't sue the rental company. Notify your carrier and tell the rental company you want the name of their insurance company and that they are full of sh*t.I hope no one was hurt.JoelOn Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote:Hello all,We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability.Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd parties.Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might help?Thank you!Bruce Whitmore1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madeira Beach, FLSent from Samsung tablet.___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
What documentation do you have? USCG or Florida Marine Patrol incident reports? If nothing, get something soon. Did you take pics of the jetski, driver, etc.? -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Let your insurance company handle it. Then sue the rental company in small claims court for any deductible that you may have. The rental company's insurance should cover your loss. Then they can go after the renter. Be careful that you don't sign any release that may keep you from recovering the deductible. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:33 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. > Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we > have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability. > > Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they > failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. > > I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd > parties. > > Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might > help? > > Thank you! > > Bruce Whitmore > 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis" > Madeira Beach, FL > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!-e33hmGFRS9Elifm0eQQ1tiC72TXd9VMTxvklZhCZP75tkgDOFSvWIfAvIOR-e6LyRU$ > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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A release of liability only means the renter won't sue the rental company. Notify your carrier and tell the rental company you want the name of their insurance company and that they are full of sh*t. I hope no one was hurt. Joel On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM bwhitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. > Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we > have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability. > > Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they > failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. > > I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd > parties. > > Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might > help? > > Thank you! > > Bruce Whitmore > 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis" > Madeira Beach, FL > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Usually your insurance deals with their insurance. I would have your lawyers from your insurance deal with their lawyers instead of trying to DIY. Joe Coquina On 6/15/2020 10:33 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability. Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd parties. Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might help? Thank you! Bruce Whitmore 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis" Madeira Beach, FL Sent from Samsung tablet. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Argh!!! Jetski rear-ended us! Help?
Hello all,We were going into John's Pass in Florida and got rear-ended by a jetski. Looks like about $20,000 in damage. The jetski rental company is saying we have to deal with the renter, because they signed a release of liability.Of course, I'm not a party to that agreement, and I believe that they failed to appropriately vet and train their renters. I have insurance, but want to recover as much as possible from the 3rd parties.Does anyone here have any background, knowledge or insights that might help?Thank you!Bruce Whitmore1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madeira Beach, FLSent from Samsung tablet.___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray